The Troll Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 but then you need to use another pick on a RB after lewis breaks down...wait, I'm not having this debate, it's a joke on the innerwebz As opposed to Thomas Jones, who has another five years left in him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 interested trade proposal we can start measuring our ring size if it happens Broncos- Get Brady Quinn from the Browns, Jets # 17 pick in 2009 and the Jets 2010 #1 pick. Browns- Get Vernon Gholston, Thomas Jones and Brad Smith from the Jets, and Jets #52 pick in 2009. Jets- Get Jay Cutler from the Broncos, receive Braylon Edwards and Jamal Lewis from the Browns. Why on earth would Cleveland do that? Brady Quinn, Braylon Edwards, and Jamal Lewis for Vernon Gholston, Thomas Jones, Brad Smith and pick #52? lol Lewis & Jones somewhat cancel each other out, no matter what one's personal opinions are of either. Brad Smith has no trade value whatsoever; he'd be a throw-in so the compensation of Smith adds nothing. So now you're down to: Vernon Gholston and pick #52 this year for Brady Quinn and Braylon Edwards There is no way on earth Cleveland makes that trade. Oh, and by the way, it was Mangini who benched Gholston all year. So I'd have serious doubts as to Mangini's desire to acquire him now that he knows what he is (or thinks he knows what he is) at the NFL level in his read & react defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Why on earth would Cleveland do that? Brady Quinn, Braylon Edwards, and Jamal Lewis for Vernon Gholston, Thomas Jones, Brad Smith and pick #52? lol Lewis & Jones somewhat cancel each other out, no matter what one's personal opinions are of either. Brad Smith has no trade value whatsoever; he'd be a throw-in so the compensation of Smith adds nothing. So now you're down to: Vernon Gholston and pick #52 this year for Brady Quinn and Braylon Edwards There is no way on earth Cleveland makes that trade. Oh, and by the way, it was Mangini who benched Gholston all year. So I'd have serious doubts as to Mangini's desire to acquire him now that he knows what he is (or thinks he knows what he is) at the NFL level in his read & react defense. i agree with ya, EM gets fired within a year i would do the trade..some ying yangs thing we gave up too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Gary Myers of the New York Daily News reports Jay Cutler wants out of Denver and the Jets have told the Broncos they want him if they decide to trade him. Multiple sources told the Daily News Sunday at the opening of the NFL meetings that Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum contacted the Broncos to let them know the Jets are very interested in trading for Cutler. But the Jets have yet to make a trade offer, and the Broncos have not said what they want, because Denver has not determined the Cutler situation is beyond repair. The Jets are definitely in the Cutler Derby. They will closely monitor the situation and are prepared to put together a package when the Broncos tell them the time has arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I just hope it doesn't come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Cut us in on any Jay Cutler deal, Jets tell Broncos DANA POINT, Calif. - Jay Cutler wants out of Denver and the Jets have told the Broncos they want him if they decide to trade him. Multiple sources told the Daily News Sunday at the opening of the NFL meetings that Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum contacted the Broncos to let them know the Jets are very interested in trading for Cutler. But the Jets have yet to make a trade offer, and the Broncos have not said what they want, because Denver has not determined the Cutler situation is beyond repair. But this much is clear: The Jets are definitely in the Cutler Derby. They will closely monitor the situation and are prepared to put together a package when the Broncos tell them the time has arrived. "Of course the Jets want Cutler," one source said. "Why wouldn't they?" The Broncos want to meet one more time with Cutler to see if they can end his feud with rookie coach Josh McDaniels before they start soliciting offers. Cutler is upset that McDaniels tried to deal him to Tampa Bay in a three-way deal that would have brought Matt Cassel from New England to Denver. He was further incensed when McDaniels didn't appease him in a face-to-face meeting after Cassel wound up being traded to Kansas City. The Jets will face strong competition from the Bucs and Bears if Cutler is available. Last summer, the Jets outbid the Bucs for Brett Favre. Where does this leave the Jets' quarterback situation? Tannenbaum, coach Rex Ryan and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer were in Manhattan, Kan., last week to work out Kansas State QB Josh Freeman, who may be working his way into the top half of the first round. The Jets are picking 17th on April 25. Ryan said Sunday he liked what he saw of Freeman. Ryan also said the Jets will work out Southern Cal QB Matt Sanchez this week while he and Tannenbaum are on the West Coast for the league meetings. Sanchez has been training in Southern California. They are not spending much time on Georgia's Matt Stafford, expected to go No. 1 to the Lions. If nothing changes, Ryan said Kellen Clemens and Brett Ratliff will go into training camp as "1 and 1-A. Clemens may get the first snap, but then 1-A is Ratliff. This is clearly an open competition. Erik Ainge, if he comes around and lights it up, he will be in there." Ryan told the Daily News Sunday that the first conversation he had with Favre as the Jets' head coach came when Favre contacted the team in February to let them know he was retiring. Ryan said he wanted Favre to play for him this season, but didn't feel it would be appropriate for him to call Favre to recruit him. "I never wanted to push him one way or the other. He played the game long enough that he knows what is best for him and his family," Ryan said. He said he didn't believe he could have talked Favre into playing another year. "We don't have that kind of relationship," he said. "I've never met Brett." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiseyjet Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! Gary Myers of the New York Daily News reports Jay Cutler wants out of Denver and the Jets have told the Broncos they want him if they decide to trade him. Multiple sources told the Daily News Sunday at the opening of the NFL meetings that Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum contacted the Broncos to let them know the Jets are very interested in trading for Cutler. But the Jets have yet to make a trade offer, and the Broncos have not said what they want, because Denver has not determined the Cutler situation is beyond repair. The Jets are definitely in the Cutler Derby. They will closely monitor the situation and are prepared to put together a package when the Broncos tell them the time has arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! He can scream all he wants... nobody is giving up squat for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! On what grounds does he warrant that type of action. Is there a market for Kellen Clemens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 On what grounds does he warrant that type of action. Is there a market for Kellen Clemens? Exactly. I am one of Clemens biggest supporters but the kid doesn't have a leg to stand on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Exactly. I am one of Clemens biggest supporters but the kid doesn't have a leg to stand on. He will cut you up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Tanny had the chance to get him the first time around. Now he wants another shot at him....fu#k him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! Clemens is lucky enough to have an NFL job... He's not a starter anywhere else, so he should stop bitching if he is bitching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I just hope it doesn't come true. I agree. It would suck to have a good young Qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 afo's trade proposal 2 #1 picks Clemens/rat 2010 3rd rd 2011 4th rd 2012 5th rd 2013 6th rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguini 15 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! He's only played a few games. He's in no position to ask for a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! And who is Kellen Clemens for him to demand a trade? He's a nobody right now. My friends mistake him for CLEO LEMONS sometimes. It's embarrasing, Hellen Clemens will NOT say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 12 of Cutlers INT's came whent he Broncos were behind... (he also had 12 TDs when behind) 7 of those 12 came when the Broncos were down by double digits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillie Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! When did Clemens throw for 4500 yards? 25 TD's? What year did he make the Pro Bowl again? Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 afo's trade proposal 2 #1 picks Clemens/rat 2010 3rd rd 2011 4th rd 2012 5th rd 2013 6th rd Seeing the way Mike T operates, I'm willing to bet that he looks to get some late round/later date picks back from the Broncos in exchange for the early pick(s) we'd be giving up. Hell, as far as I'm concerned, they still owe us a 7th for DRob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I just hope it doesn't come true. Are u fcking nuts? I mean really...are u even a jets fan? you dont want jay cutler? you want brett ratliff or kellen clemons? HUH?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I am surprised Clemens has not gotten fed up with the JETS looking in another direction by now,and I am suprised he is not screaming he wants out now! He doesn't have the same leverage as Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I just hope it doesn't come true. Yeah. I would be utterly disgusted at the opportunity to get a young gun slinger who can make every throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 He doesn't have the same leverage as Cutler. He doesn't have ANY leverage at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Clemens/Ratliff/Ainge > Cutler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Clemens/Ratliff/Ainge > Cutler Are you trying to do the reverse psychology thing? Hoping the Jets get him because you are "hoping" they don't. I see what you are doing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 sounds good. cutler ratliff, clemens, sanchez are my top options in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'm in love...with Mike Tannenbaum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ryan told the Daily News Sunday that the first conversation he had with Favre as the Jets' head coach came when Favre contacted the team in February to let them know he was retiring. Ryan said he wanted Favre to play for him this season, but didn't feel it would be appropriate for him to call Favre to recruit him. "I never wanted to push him one way or the other. He played the game long enough that he knows what is best for him and his family," Ryan said. He said he didn't believe he could have talked Favre into playing another year. "We don't have that kind of relationship," he said. "I've never met Brett." Is this a case of Rex saying the right thing or is this a case of Rex really wanting Favre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Is this a case of Rex saying the right thing or is this a case of Rex really wanting Favre? Hopefully the former. 40 year-old Favre isn't worth $13M on this year's cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Hopefully the former. 40 year-old Favre isn't worth $13M on this year's cap. Rex seems to be a pragmatist (as evidenced by him having no problem with the higher ups wanting to keep Schotty). So it would definately be the former. As to the OP, Tannenbaum has shown himself not to be afraid of any deal, so, of course, he'd tell the Broncos the Jets will be in on it. Also, it's smart of Tanny not to make an offer now. Why should he if the Broncos haven't confirmed that they're trading Cutler? He shouldn't & isn't playing his hand too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I heard the Jets hired Monty Hall as a special consultant for the meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'm in love...with Mike Tannenbaum. You're easy... I don't give it up until Cutler is in green and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 You're easy... I don't give it up until Cutler is in green and white You've got at least a semi, I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Rex seems to be a pragmatist (as evidenced by him having no problem with the higher ups wanting to keep Schotty). So it would definately be the former. As to the OP, Tannenbaum has shown himself not to be afraid of any deal, so, of course, he'd tell the Broncos the Jets will be in on it. Also, it's smart of Tanny not to make an offer now. Why should he if the Broncos haven't confirmed that they're trading Cutler? He shouldn't & isn't playing his hand too early. it is the owner's meeting i make a huge offer right now and get him before other teams even bid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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