AFJF Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 From Yahoo! We haven't lived in the Kiper era of endless NFL draft information for very long, but in that time, I can't recall anyone's draft stock falling quite like Andre Smith's. Picture Wilford Brimley's frail and helpless body tumbling end-over-end off a cliff, picking up speed as it goes (Note: Do not picture this if you are Wilford Brimley, or someone who knows him). That's about what we're looking at here. He (Smith, not Brimley) was once considered a possible number one overall pick, and now, he might not even be a second-day pick. If Andre Smith was the stock market, he'd be ... well, he'd be a lot like the stock market is right now. It all started at the combine, when Smith basically did everything the exact opposite of how it should have been done, and then left in the middle of it without telling anyone where he was going. But it was thought that Smith would have a chance to redeem himself, at least partially, at his Pro Day earlier this afternoon. So how'd that go for him? Here's a snippet from TFYDraft.com: The situation has gone from bad to worse for Andre Smith. His bench press results were a pitiful 19-reps. His position work was also very mediocre. One scout has told us is it the "worst workout he ever saw" and a number of scouts are cranky that they made the long trip to Alabama to watch the pitiful workout. A second scout has told us "Smith lost millions of dollars". And from NFL.com: To put Smith’s workout in perspective, he did not post a single number that would have placed him in the top performers at his position at the combine and many of his numbers were not even close to the top 10 at his position at the combine. And PFT quotes a league source as saying that Smith "bombed." The way things are going, teams will be drafting equipment managers before they draft Andre Smith. Most decent stadium hot dog vendors are more highly sought-after. Dan Leone will be drafted before Andre Smith. It hurts to even think about this guy. Put yourself in his shoes. A month ago, he was on track to become a household name, had won just about every major award for which he was eligible, and was set to become one of the wealthiest people on the planet ... and now he's a guy without a college degree (he left Alabama after his junior season) who might not even have a future in the game. I feel like giving him a hug, but I'm afraid I'd knock him down and scouts would send him even farther down scouts' lists. Come on, Andre. Get it together, baby. Nothing's over, nothing's decided. You can still be the stud you were intended to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 But wait...assmop says he's going to be pro bowler in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 he went from 30 mill guaranteed to maybe getting 5 or 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 But wait...assmop says he's going to be pro bowler in two years. he will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I gave this guy the benefit of the doubt after the combines but he is basically now in a freefall. WTF is with this guy ? Now they are talking second day pick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 man this must be the stupidest kid on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 he will be You honestly cant stand by that after everything he has done. He is more likely to be out of the league in 2 years. He has no motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 he will be He also won't be selected until the second round and no team is ever going to give him big $ because he has proved he cannot handle the pressure of being looked at as a top tier player. He's going to end up in a place like Pittsburgh or New England where they are going to take **** from anyone so maybe that will do him some good. I doubt he's a Pro Bowler though. Weighed in at 325, which is good, but he was all fat & rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 You honestly cant stand by that after everything he has done. He is more likely to be out of the league in 2 years. He has no motivation. Yes I can I have seen 90% of his games...he is a stud some team is going to get a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Well, think about were he went to college. JK afosomf. If he falls to us in the second, I'd take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Just saw a mock on ESPN and both Kiper and McShay still had him in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Yes I can I have seen 90% of his games...he is a stud some team is going to get a bargain I saw him play very closely in one very important game, you might remember but care to forget it. Anywho, he got worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 it's not like he went to USC or Texas, a real football factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='Blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I saw him play very closely in one very important game, you might remember but care to forget it. Anywho, he got worked. Andre Smith was not worked over in Florida game better go back to videotape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 How INSANE would you have to be to not be in your best shape ever for these opportunities? You are basically "made", all you need to do if you're him is have a decent combine,decent pro day and you're set - you're a mega multimillionaire. My idea of a brutal workout is a walk down the block to get a pastrami on rye. But you give me that opportunity I guarantee you I can be a BEAST within three months tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 5 or 6 dollars an hour you mean he'll still get a contract worth more than you and i will ever see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 How INSANE would you have to be to not be in your best shape ever for these opportunities? You are basically "made", all you need to do if you're him is have a decent combine,decent pro day and you're set - you're a mega multimillionaire. My idea of a brutal workout is a walk down the block to get a pastrami on rye. But you give me that opportunity I guarantee you I can be a BEAST within three months tops. OMG he is a 325 pd LT who ran a 5.25 forty, that should not alarm any scout. Out of High School he was the #1 consensus pick, he started as a true Frosh and was dominant, i would hope scouts look at game tape. Poor agent choice cost him coin, whover gets him will get a starting tackle right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdropOFvenom Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I don't get it, this guy was on the fast track to being a multi-millionaire and he's throwing it all away. Does he just not care? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='Blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I'm so glad the Jets got a workout warrior last year, oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 But wait...assmop says he's going to be pro bowler in two years. Errr why not wait until you throw stones Huskerface ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Yes I can I have seen 90% of his games...he is a stud some team is going to get a bargain Couldn't agree more. Some team will take a chance on him and they will be rewarded big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 How INSANE would you have to be to not be in your best shape ever for these opportunities? You are basically "made", all you need to do if you're him is have a decent combine,decent pro day and you're set - you're a mega multimillionaire. My idea of a brutal workout is a walk down the block to get a pastrami on rye. But you give me that opportunity I guarantee you I can be a BEAST within three months tops. i know......most likely this kids been playing his whole life to get to this point and get this incredible opportunity to be a high 1st round draft pick and make millions of dollars....and he blows it all within months. how fu*king stupid can you be? there's got to be something wrong with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 i know......most likely this kids been playing his whole life to get to this point and get this incredible opportunity to be a high 1st round draft pick and make millions of dollars....and he blows it all within months. how fu*king stupid can you be? there's got to be something wrong with him. I think there is something mentally wrong with him. Even if he conscously sabotaged himself, that in and of its self is a sign that there is something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Shhh... SMC has an education and a real adult job. He'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 OMG he is a 325 pd LT who ran a 5.25 forty, that should not alarm any scout. Out of High School he was the #1 consensus pick, he started as a true Frosh and was dominant, i would hope scouts look at game tape. Poor agent choice cost him coin, whover gets him will get a starting tackle right away Come on dude, how many players have you seen dominate in college and flop in the NFL? Another offensive lineman that comes to mind is Toniu Fonoti from Nebraska. Incredible physical talent. He crushed the record for most pancake blocks as a sophomore. Looked like a can't miss pick. He was picked in the 2nd. round by San Diego and was an absolute flop. He bounced around to at least three other teams and for all I know has now eaten himself out of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Come on dude, how many players have you seen dominate in college and flop in the NFL? Another offensive lineman that comes to mind is Toniu Fonoti from Nebraska. Incredible physical talent. He crushed the record for most pancake blocks as a sophomore. Looked like a can't miss pick. He was picked in the 2nd. round by San Diego and was an absolute flop. He bounced around to at least three other teams and for all I know has now eaten himself out of the league. Nebraska???????? Roids baby:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Yes I can I have seen 90% of his games...he is a stud some team is going to get a bargain I know this is counterintuitive but there is more to football than on the field stuff. On the field is most important, but you have a guy here who got suspended before the bowl game, left the combine without notice and just bombed his pro day. It's about investment for teams and who wants to draft Andre Smith high when he's clearly a volatile and highly risky investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I don't get it. College football season ended less than 5 months ago, and by all accounts he was playing at a high level then. What did he do to get that out of shape? Eat fried butter all day? It's mind boggling to think about. Didn't he leave the combine to get ready for his pro day? What has he been doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFootball56 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Wasn't this guy considered to be the best lineman on the best oline in college football?? Why is it that I never heard of Jason Smith until now?? Reminds me of another 1st overall pick David Carr... I just don't get how someone can go from being a franchise LT to a fat slob in the span of three months. I know he was suspended for the sugar bowl, but its not like it was for drugs or anything... Reggie Bush did the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 there can only be 2 explanations,, he was a roid freak who had to get off of them for drug testing at combine..or severe depresion has set in and he has lost all drive..you dont lose strength and stamina iunless a underneath reason.. drug testing at college level is kind of joke and easy to beat,,ask my college athlete son about what he saw.. can this kid get his act together again,,sure, why not,,but he looks like a possible mandrich right now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Wasn't this guy considered to be the best lineman on the best oline in college football?? I just don't get how someone can go from being a franchise LT to a fat slob in the span of three months. I know he was suspended for the sugar bowl, but its not like it was for drugs or anything... Reggie Bush did the same thing... He was suspended from ALABAMA because of his dealing with an agent. I think that's the root of his problems.... he picked the wrong agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I want this guy See McNeil from The Bolts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I want this guy See McNeil from The Bolts McNeil fell because of back issues, not because of retardation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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