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Per ESPN:

Leon Washington is seeking a long term contract extension with the NY Football Jets.

I think that'll be a great thing.

Your thoughts.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2009/03/26/2009-03-26_leon_washington_bucking_for_more_money_f-1.html

Leon Washington bucking for more money from Jets in extension

By Rich Cimini

Daily News Sports Writer

Thursday, March 26th 2009, 11:45 PM

Leon Washington sounded like an agent - his own agent.

The Jets' all-purpose dynamo, entering the final year of his original contract, is seeking a long-term extension. Washington didn't say how much he wants, but it's probably safe to assume that anybody who compares himself to Hall of Famer Gale Sayers is looking for mega bucks.

"I'm trying to revolutionize the game, trying to take it to the next level like the guys back in the day, like a Dave Meggett or a Gale Sayers," he said Thursday at the team's offseason program. "They did so much and did it so well. I want to bring that style back at a high level. In my opinion, that, plus the leadership I give in the locker room, is priceless."

The Jets, too, would like to hammer out a new deal by the start of the season. Washington is believed to be seeking at least $4 million a year. He is due to make $535,000 in 2009.

It will be an interesting decision for the Jets, who are dealing with an unhappy Thomas Jones. The defending AFC rushing champ, skipping workouts, wants a new contract.

Washington, coming off his first Pro Bowl season, is hoping to finalize a deal before training camp.

"The Jets traditionally have done the right thing with guys that play well," he said. "I put the work in and, hopefully, it pays off for me sooner rather than later."

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sign Leon...can TJ if he doesn't like it...draft an rb

YES YES YES, any average running back, like TJ can run like heck behind this line and T-Rich.

Leon can run behind anything. If you get him into space via screen or dump off, he's dynamic. TJ is NOT!

Props for being our MVP last year, but I guarantee if Leon got all of TJ's touches and we had Leonhard returning Punts, he would be the leading rusher.

Leon gets the new contract over TJ NO FRIGGIN QUESTION<CASE CLOSED!!!!!

Where we stand right now, Schotty should be designing a million different ways to set screens for Leon,pull Guards to sweep him outside, get him in motion and dump it of to him in space. Leon is our most explosive player. He NEEDS to be utilized and LOCKED UP.We want a happy Leon, let TJ pout if that's him.

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YES YES YES, any average running back, like TJ can run like heck behind this line and T-Rich.

Leon can run behind anything. If you get him into space via screen or dump off, he's dynamic. TJ is NOT!

Props for being our MVP last year, but I guarantee if Leon got all of TJ's touches and we had Leonhard returning Punts, he would be the leading rusher.

Leon gets the new contract over TJ NO FRIGGIN QUESTION<CASE CLOSED!!!!!

Where we stand right now, Schotty should be designing a million different ways to set screens for Leon,pull Guards to sweep him outside, get him in motion and dump it of to him in space. Leon is our most explosive player. He NEEDS to be utilized and LOCKED UP.We want a happy Leon, let TJ pout if that's him.

I second that.

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YES YES YES, any average running back, like TJ can run like heck behind this line and T-Rich.

Leon can run behind anything. If you get him into space via screen or dump off, he's dynamic. TJ is NOT!

Props for being our MVP last year, but I guarantee if Leon got all of TJ's touches and we had Leonhard returning Punts, he would be the leading rusher.

Leon gets the new contract over TJ NO FRIGGIN QUESTION<CASE CLOSED!!!!!

Where we stand right now, Schotty should be designing a million different ways to set screens for Leon,pull Guards to sweep him outside, get him in motion and dump it of to him in space. Leon is our most explosive player. He NEEDS to be utilized and LOCKED UP.We want a happy Leon, let TJ pout if that's him.

mehl, I agree with you 100%. TJ is easily replaceable. Leon, not so much. This draft has solid depth at RB, nobody lightening fast, be have that in Leon.

I would love to see us draft or get a bruiser. We could have a Titans like run game with C.Johnson and L.White. It will make any Qb's job a lot easier.

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I would love to see us draft or get a bruiser. We could have a Titans like run game with C.Johnson and L.White. It will make any Qb's job a lot easier.

I am forced to watch Giants games because my roomate is a Giants fan. I LOVE BRANDON JACOBS. I agree so much, please read my J.Caulrick post,

it's called About RB's why is noone talking about him....

I even included a scouting report.He's an UDFA from Mich State who averaged 4.5 ypc and 10 TD's a year, he was projected to go 5th or 6th(what do they know?)

A bruiser and Leon would be deadly and if he blossomed, we could have a three headed monster for cheap.

I won't go into the 8 in the box and the Cutler thing, but even if KC or Rat can show signs of passing game life. With a meat tenderizer like Caulrick at 250, by the third quarter, Little Neon will be dropping these lbers pants,TJ will drag them a couple extra yards, and one or two poundings from a 250 steamroller and CB's won't want to touch TJ coming around the ENDs. LOL

P.S.

Let's not get to used to this agreeing thing, it's freaking me out. LOL but seriously.....

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they can't go into the season with him in his final year, letting him get anywhere near the open market would mean saying bye bye

but

they can't just give him a big deal for starters money either, he hasn't proven he can rush for 1,400 yards in a season, and that causes a jones hold-out

I know everyone here has a dim view of jones, but we really don't want to go into the draft with starting HB on the shopping list and Leon #1 on the depth chart

I say if tanny doesn't extend leon, he views leon as a guy we can replace in the following draft. It doesn't take HB's long to get up to NFL speed, and they have a very short shelf life afterall

can they put one of those RFA deals on him ? if so, they may just put a high tender offer on him

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I would fully expect the Jets to get something done before the start of the regular season. They've done a very good job of that with their young players since Tannenbaum took over. That being said, even if they can't do it, I'm not the least bit worried. For starters, if there is no new CBA agreed to wouldn't Leon technically be an RFA next year?

And even if a new agreement is reached, there is not a whole lot of people worthwhile coming up for UFA next year from the Jets. So unless Clemens wins the starting job, lights it up and the Jets can't work out a new deal with him, you can bet your ass that the Jets wouldn't hesitate to slap Leon with the franchise tag.

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isn't this jason's page ?

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary.html

anywho, if I'm reading this correctly, giving Leon $4 mill would be a 60% raise over what Jones is making ($2.5 mill)

that would amount to naming Leon the starter, and giving him 25 carries a game, and having to trade Jones to make cap room, and to get rid of the 100% guaranteed hold-out distraction from jones

I love Leon, but I really don't want to put even more pressure on the passing game by getting rid of jones and hoping Leon can carry the load

with that said, Leon should make more than Dearth :eek:

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isn't this jason's page ?

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary.html

anywho, if I'm reading this correctly, giving Leon $4 mill would be a 60% raise over what Jones is making ($2.5 mill)

that would amount to naming Leon the starter, and giving him 25 carries a game, and having to trade Jones to make cap room, and to get rid of the 100% guaranteed hold-out distraction from jones

I love Leon, but I really don't want to put even more pressure on the passing game by getting rid of jones and hoping Leon can carry the load

with that said, Leon should make more than Dearth :eek:

I dont know of this "jason" but the email link is to a "jason"

If the JETS give leon a new deal.. especially for $4mill... TJ will throw a **** fit and hold out...

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I dont know of this "jason" but the email link is to a "jason"

If the JETS give leon a new deal.. especially for $4mill... TJ will throw a **** fit and hold out...

I think it's jason423

you can't give Leon the $4 mill without naming him the starter and trading Jones

you just can't

I hope tanny can make him happy with some sort of extension, maybe with playing time incentives

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according to Jason's site, Leon is RFA in '10

I bet that is tanny's plan, make him an tender offer where we get a decent pick if he gets signed

That's of course assuming the CBA isn't renegotiated next year before the RFA period. My guess is they're making a very real effort to resign him, if it turns out they can't then they'll tender him as an RFA if they can and the last resort is the franchise tag. That is unless they end up needing to use it on Clemens.

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I think it's jason423

you can't give Leon the $4 mill without naming him the starter and trading Jones

you just can't

I hope tanny can make him happy with some sort of extension, maybe with playing time incentives

Why?

Jones signed a contract. Now play under the terms of that contract.

You'd think we all just witnessed a season of Thomas Jones plowing people over or making them miss or breaking tackles all season long en route to a 1700-yard season.

Under no circumstances should Thomas Jones get an extension. None, unless it involves playing for the league minimum in 2010 and beyond with no new bonus money.

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Why?

Jones signed a contract. Now play under the terms of that contract.

You'd think we all just witnessed a season of Thomas Jones plowing people over or making them miss or breaking tackles all season long en route to a 1700-yard season.

Under no circumstances should Thomas Jones get an extension. None, unless it involves playing for the league minimum in 2010 and beyond with no new bonus money.

what I'm getting at is Jones would hold out if Leon gets the $4 mill a year this article speculates he is looking for, and rather than extend him or deal with the distraction, I think you'd have to trade him

he wants more money as it is, if you give this to Leon, the **** hits the fan big time

Leon is RFA in '10, I say tender him an offer with a 2nd round pick attached to it and let the chips fall where they may, and let jones play out his deal

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what I'm getting at is Jones would hold out if Leon gets the $4 mill a year this article speculates he is looking for, and rather than extend him or deal with the distraction, I think you'd have to trade him

he wants more money as it is, if you give this to Leon, the **** hits the fan big time

Leon is RFA in '10, I say tender him an offer with a 2nd round pick attached to it and let the chips fall where they may, and let jones play out his deal

So you'd risk losing Leon because you're afraid Jones will make a stink?

Leon is in his mid-20's and his contract is up after this year. The Jets have never paid him big dollars. Jones is in his 30's and is still under contract for another year after this season is over. The Jets have already paid him many millions of dollars.

Jones will not hold out. He is too old to have that move in his back pocket. It's also different than others who may complain or bitch to his teammates. No matter how much other players may nod to him & tell him he's right to his face, everyone knows he's a 31 year-old RB who has a short career left in front of him. They also know every $1M more the Jets reward Jones is $1M less they have to spend on themselves.

Football contracts are for what you're going to do for the team in future potential, not what you have done for the team in the past.

The Jets made that type of mistake with Chrebet & Martin & others. You want to reward someone for past accomplishments, give them a job in the team's office with a bloated salary after they retire. But while they're playing there is a salary cap & you don't pay people more than they are likely to be worth compared to someone else.

A team that has its 5 starting OL positions filled with two non-bust 1st rounders and three mega-million dollar FA's does not give new money to a 31 year-old RB who is already on the roster & has already been paid.

If he sulks all season then he sulks all season. The whole world knows you don't give new money to RB's at his age.

So if the Jets can lock up Leon for a few more years at manageable money, the reaction of millionaire Thomas Jones does not concern me and should not concern the Jets FO.

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So you'd risk losing Leon because you're afraid Jones will make a stink?

Leon is in his mid-20's and his contract is up after this year. The Jets have never paid him big dollars. Jones is in his 30's and is still under contract for another year after this season is over. The Jets have already paid him many millions of dollars.

Jones will not hold out. He is too old to have that move in his back pocket. It's also different than others who may complain or bitch to his teammates. No matter how much other players may nod to him & tell him he's right to his face, everyone knows he's a 31 year-old RB who has a short career left in front of him. They also know every $1M more the Jets reward Jones is $1M less they have to spend on themselves.

Football contracts are for what you're going to do for the team in future potential, not what you have done for the team in the past.

The Jets made that type of mistake with Chrebet & Martin & others. You want to reward someone for past accomplishments, give them a job in the team's office with a bloated salary after they retire. But while they're playing there is a salary cap & you don't pay people more than they are likely to be worth compared to someone else.

A team that has its 5 starting OL positions filled with two non-bust 1st rounders and three mega-million dollar FA's does not give new money to a 31 year-old RB who is already on the roster & has already been paid.

If he sulks all season then he sulks all season. The whole world knows you don't give new money to RB's at his age.

So if the Jets can lock up Leon for a few more years at manageable money, the reaction of millionaire Thomas Jones does not concern me and should not concern the Jets FO.

YOU'RE WRONG! (Just wanted to say that cuz you're right damn near all the time).:penguin:

Leon is our present/future. TJ is gone in 2 years. Sign Leon, and if TJ holds out its not going to get him more money elsewhere. He'll play and like it.

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