slats Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I think you're right and this very well could be the end game. I still want to mull this over a bit. It's almost TOO SIMPLE... The mafia took out crusher because they knew he could've solved this all for us. It feels wrong for this to be so straight forward. Nothing else fits all the pieces together. We got lucky in that JB chose to follow Sharrow the night Crusher chose to follow JB. Crusher waits outside of JB's door, follows her to Sharrow's - who she's chosen to follow that night. JB follows Sharrow to Woody's, but all Crusher sees is JB going to Woody's. We have Crusher and JB both confirmed as watcher/trackers. Makes sense. The fact that JB was 51st and Woody was detained at the 22nd was killing me. It does not make sense that she's the one who made that arrest. She chose the wrong guy to follow that night, and we got lucky lynching her for Woody's arrest. Sharrow is scum from the 22nd, and it's JB who led us right to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ftr.. the terms "wits" and "loyal foot soldier of the town" and "hate coppers" were used in both townie and scum role PM's... One had em, the other was reversed ... i.e. "take out loyal foot soliders of the town", "They hate coppers".. These terms never should've been mentioned in the first place, but they are meaningless.. I will be out for the 4-5 hours.. try and behave Yikes, maybe helpful to tell this earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 We're obviously missing some vital pieces of information. The fact that Slats seems so sure about himself makes me think that he knows something we don't, tbh. I've laid everything out in the open. Everything is based on confirmed facts. Just connecting the dots. You've got to do a better job of finding fault in that logic than "something makes me think... " 'Cause yeah, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I need to clarify something that all you guys are mentioning about me...I keep hearing you guys saying that I am all over the place. I will admitt that last night I had a lot of ideas and just figured I would get them out there just incase I didnt survive the night phase. My biggest concerns were with Crusher (obviously not an issue anymore), JMJ who's role makes me nervous because of reason's stated by Vic and Sharrow for the Crusher seeing JB thingy. In no way was I trying to lead the town down the wrong path, I was just thinking out loud and making sure that you guys got some answers if I wasnt around today. Vic what is preventing you from voting from Sharrow? I am stepping out for lunch, but I will be at the desk and able to post when I get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 JiF. Let me know what you think on this. I'm 3/4 of the way on dropping this hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I need to clarify something that all you guys are mentioning about me...I keep hearing you guys saying that I am all over the place. I will admitt that last night I had a lot of ideas and just figured I would get them out there just incase I didnt survive the night phase. My biggest concerns were with Crusher (obviously not an issue anymore), JMJ who's role makes me nervous because of reason's stated by Vic and Sharrow for the Crusher seeing JB thingy. In no way was I trying to lead the town down the wrong path, I was just thinking out loud and making sure that you guys got some answers if I wasnt around today. Vic what is preventing you from voting from Sharrow? I am stepping out for lunch, but I will be at the desk and able to post when I get back. What's stopping me? Fear of being wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Where did Crusher say that he went to JB's house and then to mine? When I look back at his posts, it looks like he thought I was innocent. Really? I saw JB leave his house? No Im not. I can only track or watch. That means I can track any player and see where they go at night. I don't know what they do, but I know where they go. If I watch them, I sit outside their house and I could watch who went in. I can't see what is being done but I know who was their. I don't know if you killed Woody. I just know I saw you leaving his house and Sharrow house last night. Now I could onlytrack you because you the one I chose to track. Somone could have went to the house after you and poped Woody. But, I wouldn't know because I chose to track you. Mostly because of Ey's corny accusation of you and your lame response back and how you acted how you where the only one that new EY was dirty. I was going to track Jif or JmJ, but my last minute read turned me onto to you. I highlighted these because when CTM gave me my role I was cofused at first. but got the hang of it. Got ya Babe. I can't track roles, I can only watch houses and follow people. I do have immunity. Last night I tracked you and you went to woody's and Sharrow. Sharrow is scum? Hmmm thats interesting. Like I said, where does it say he went to my house, and then to JB's house. I think you're putting words in his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Night 1 Watch Doggin- AVM Jet things show up Night 2 Watch Doggin- EY/SMC show up Night 3 follow AVM- he goes to EY Night 4 follow Vic- he stays home and masturbates with bacon grease Night 5 follows JB- 1st to sharrows and 2nd to woody's He thought you were innocent based on the fact that JB chose to track you in the first place, figuring that scum wouldn't track fellow scum. He didn't take into account two scum teams. He gave us the raw info, we just needed to decipher it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 **** it Vote: Sharrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Where did Crusher say that he went to JB's house and then to mine? When I look back at his posts, it looks like he thought I was innocent. Like I said, where does it say he went to my house, and then to JB's house. I think you're putting words in his mouth. Sorry, my house then to woody's house, not JB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Meh, I'm done for. That was the hammer. Good luck townies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Can't say I didn't try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 UNOFFICIAL VOTE Sharrow (3), slats, JMJ, Vic With 5 alive, it takes 3 to whack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 And unlike some people, I'm not going to add any information to the game when I'm dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 And unlike some people, I'm not going to add any information to the game when I'm dead. You're not dead till CTM says so. I have a better idea. All of us have to post our names and roles, NOW. Unvote: Sharrow I'm Sammy Fettuccini and all I have is my word and my balls. I'm roleless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Edit: Keep the vote on Sharrow. The last time on did this I let Jets Things out of the noose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Jets babe and jmj cheated plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Edit: Keep the vote on Sharrow. The last time on did this I let Jets Things out of the noose. Doesn't matter. CTM said earlier in the game that once you cast the final vote, it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Jets babe and jmj cheated plain and simple. Crusher and SMC too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Jets babe and jmj cheated plain and simple. So sorry, but I think you used up everyone's sympathy for you earlier when you "lost your job"... ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'll be fascinated to learn of the cheating since I casted the wrong vote, yay. Seriously I hate being a townie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Here's a novel idea: Dead people stay dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'll be fascinated to learn of the cheating since I casted the wrong vote, yay. Seriously I hate being a townie. I'm not sure about JMJ, but his quoting CMT's role PM to him exactly clearly helped the town turn against me because I didn't provide the "loyal footsoldier" part. I don't know if that's cheating or not. The others, imo, all provided information after they died that either effected the game or could have effected the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 So sorry, but I think you used up everyone's sympathy for you earlier when you "lost your job"... ass. Do u disagree? You saw jmj's role pm he basically quoted it to confirm his innocence. And jets babe clearly added game info post mortem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'll be fascinated to learn of the cheating since I casted the wrong vote, yay. Seriously I hate being a townie. JVOR's whining because JMJ revealed too much of his role specifically, and that JB came back to give us hints (I wish she hadn't). I'm as certain as I can be that you cast your vote correctly. If not, I'm not sure where we'll go next. But I'll hold off on that conversation for now. I gotta cook up some food for me and my son, and then head out to work. CTM should have a death scene up by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I don't want to make a big stink of any of it though. I probably would have died before the end anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Do u disagree? You saw jmj's role pm he basically quoted it to confirm his innocence. And jets babe clearly added game info post mortem. Only thing I'll reply back to you since you're not even part of the game any more but: I did not reveal verbatim, did not copy and paste, and still withheld info about my NK's only preventing once. And at the time I did say what I said, nobody else had role revealed and there was NO WAY for me to know that CTM used the same wording with everyone. How would I know that? And since I didn't copy and paste (and didn't even open my PMs to look and just posted from memory), I did nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Crusher and SMC too. **Texted in by SMC on holiday with Doggin** I didn't cheat. I played within explicit rules of the game. CTM decided to change the rules mid-game b/c people complained. Whiny bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Do u disagree? You saw jmj's role pm he basically quoted it to confirm his innocence. And jets babe clearly added game info post mortem. JB should've kept her mouth shut, but JMJ didn't know better - and CTM kinda squashed any meaning in his quotes, anyway. JB didn't help me. She nodded at my conclusions. I wish she kept out of it, though. You being here now would seem to confirm the game's over with this death scene. I'm looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 **Texted in by SMC on holiday with Doggin** I didn't cheat. I played within explicit rules of the game. CTM decided to change the rules mid-game b/c people complained. Whiny bitches. And they're still not even done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 JB should've kept her mouth shut, but JMJ didn't know better - and CTM kinda squashed any meaning in his quotes, anyway. JB didn't help me. She nodded at my conclusions. I wish she kept out of it, though. You being here now would seem to confirm the game's over with this death scene. I'm looking forward to it. Not the end of the game, mind you, just confirmation of my brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 **Texted in by SMC on holiday with Doggin** I didn't cheat. I played within explicit rules of the game. CTM decided to change the rules mid-game b/c people complained. Whiny bitches. I agree. Cheating is too strong of a word for what you guys did, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I agree. Cheating is too strong of a word for what you guys did, imo. But you all did effect the game with what should have been out-of-game information, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I agree. Cheating is too strong of a word for what you guys did, imo. Kobayashi Maru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Not the end of the game, mind you, just confirmation of my brilliance. Not that brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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