Jetfan13 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 BY.boland@newsday.com ERIK BOLAND | erik 8:53 PM EDT, April 13, 2009 The Jets could be returning to their Long Island roots for training camp, though not necessarily to the place they called home for the past 40 years. Stony Brook University is getting strong consideration as the location, Jets and league sources said Monday. Such a move would fulfill new coach Rex Ryan's desire for a self-contained and somewhat isolated location. Switching to Stony Brook also would be a public relations coup for a franchise accused by its longtime, and large, Long Island fan base of abandoning it by moving to its $75-million facility in Florham Park, N.J., late last summer, ending a 40-year affiliation with Hofstra. A source said Hofstra was approached about having training camp return there but that talks never moved beyond the preliminary stage. A small group from the Jets' football operations staff visited Cortland and Cornell March 20. A source said the team visited Stony Brook well before that, spending nearly eight hours looking at the layout and facilities. Cortland, Cornell and potentially others still are considered very much in the running. An announcement is expected before the April 25 NFL draft. Field space would seem to be a concern at Stony Brook, but there is adequate room for several fields beyond LaValle Stadium's scoreboard. Minor cosmetic surgery, which the Jets would pay for, would be needed on the fields. The Jets likely would have to transfer their weight room to Stony Brook, too. "The sense is Stony Brook would do what's necessary to make it work," a source said. There already is ample parking, meeting-room space and on-campus lodging for players. Stony Brook declined comment. "We're referring everything to the Jets," athletic department spokesman Phil Hess said. As they have done the past several weeks, the Jets did not comment Monday on potential camp locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just dont understand, why spend $75 mil on a facility then not use it. Atleast spend an extra million on bleachers and sleeping facilities. This is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 BY.boland@newsday.com ERIK BOLAND | erik 8:53 PM EDT, April 13, 2009 The Jets could be returning to their Long Island roots for training camp, though not necessarily to the place they called home for the past 40 years. Stony Brook University is getting strong consideration as the location, Jets and league sources said Monday. Such a move would fulfill new coach Rex Ryan's desire for a self-contained and somewhat isolated location. Switching to Stony Brook also would be a public relations coup for a franchise accused by its longtime, and large, Long Island fan base of abandoning it by moving to its $75-million facility in Florham Park, N.J., late last summer, ending a 40-year affiliation with Hofstra. A source said Hofstra was approached about having training camp return there but that talks never moved beyond the preliminary stage. A small group from the Jets' football operations staff visited Cortland and Cornell March 20. A source said the team visited Stony Brook well before that, spending nearly eight hours looking at the layout and facilities. Cortland, Cornell and potentially others still are considered very much in the running. An announcement is expected before the April 25 NFL draft. Field space would seem to be a concern at Stony Brook, but there is adequate room for several fields beyond LaValle Stadium's scoreboard. Minor cosmetic surgery, which the Jets would pay for, would be needed on the fields. The Jets likely would have to transfer their weight room to Stony Brook, too. "The sense is Stony Brook would do what's necessary to make it work," a source said. There already is ample parking, meeting-room space and on-campus lodging for players. Stony Brook declined comment. "We're referring everything to the Jets," athletic department spokesman Phil Hess said. As they have done the past several weeks, the Jets did not comment Monday on potential camp locations. I was really hoping that they would move TC to Cortland. This would help expand their fan base in the upstate area. It's also closer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 Living in S Sla for MANY MANY years, I have never had the chance to attend a training camp. This year I an going to a wedding on LI in July and was pissed that tc had been moved to NJ..Maybe I will get a chance to attend afterall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just dont understand, why spend $75 mil on a facility then not use it. Atleast spend an extra million on bleachers and sleeping facilities. This is ridiculous. I'm sorry but I've had it with this nonsense... THERES NO WHERE FOR THE TEAM TO BE HOUSED. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY Why would anyone in there right mind build housing for 1 month out of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm sorry but I've had it with this nonsense... THERES NO WHERE FOR THE TEAM TO BE HOUSED. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY Why would anyone in there right mind build housing for 1 month out of the year? You forgot to mention how a lot of teams, A LOT of teams, have their training camps at a different location than their in-season training facility. I find it mind-numbing how this simple fact escapes so many other people who are flipping out because the Jets are basically doing what a lot of other teams have done for YEARS. I'm glad some of us get it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Switching to Stony Brook also would be a public relations coup for a franchise accused by its longtime, and large, Long Island fan base of abandoning it by moving to its $75-million facility in Florham Park, N.J., late last summer, ending a 40-year affiliation with Hofstra. Let me tell ya, I feel fcuked over as a fan on LI. I said from the onset they should keep training camp on LI, then move to their new facility for the regular season. That's the best case scenario, AFAIC. I'm about equidistant from Hofstra and Stony Brook, so the move is fine with me. I'd love to see 'em invest in Stony Brook and make it their permanent summer home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm sorry but I've had it with this nonsense... THERES NO WHERE FOR THE TEAM TO BE HOUSED. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY Why would anyone in there right mind build housing for 1 month out of the year? Dude, you're talking about a university campus in the summertime. I suspect there's one or two free dorm rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just dont understand, why spend $75 mil on a facility then not use it. Atleast spend an extra million on bleachers and sleeping facilities. This is ridiculous. that's exactly what I thought too after reading that article DLJ. I mean all the money they're gonna have to spend on fixing up fields and moving equip. back and forth IDK just seems like a waste of time and money. I'm sick of the Jets forever being a road team. Keep the Jets in Jersey it'd be nice if my former home state Jets fans had a chance to take a 20 minute ride to training camp. LI had it for 40 years it should be Jersey's turn-maybe when Bon Jovi buys them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just dont understand, why spend $75 mil on a facility then not use it. The Jets ARE using the Florham Park facility. They're at Florham Park 10 months a year while training camp is only 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm sorry but I've had it with this nonsense... THERES NO WHERE FOR THE TEAM TO BE HOUSED. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY Why would anyone in there right mind build housing for 1 month out of the year? I blame the media for this impression (that the Jets aren't using Florham Park), and it's another example of the Jets having the worst beat writers of any team. --Where do the Jets train & practice during the season? Florham Park --Where's the OTAs (including voluntary & mandatory team workouts)? Florham Park --Where's the Minicamps? Florham Park --Where are the team's offices? Florham Park --Where does the team host FAs and potential draftees? Florham Park It's ridiculous to claim that the team doesn't use the Florham Park facility when it's in use at least 10 out of the 12 months in the year (and all yr round for the FO) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Dude, you're talking about a university campus in the summertime. I suspect there's one or two free dorm rooms. You didn't understand my response. I was talking about people that bitch and moan about the Jets not using there new facility for training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Its just mind blowing that people can't understand the situation. It really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 How far is Floram Park from the Meadowlands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 How far is Floram Park from the Meadowlands? 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 20 minutes. Somebody with deep pockets should build a Hotel next to the NYJ facility and rent it out to the NYJ for 2 months during TC. Give them a sweetheart deal, but with a 15 year lease or something. The other months could be lodging for NYJ home games and for vistors to the Floram Park Headquarters and so forth. I would stay there for NE games in lieu of the Kockroach Motel I was at in Seacacus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just dont understand, why spend $75 mil on a facility then not use it. Atleast spend an extra million on bleachers and sleeping facilities. This is ridiculous. Jets aren't the first team to do this, and won't be the last. Having training camp "off-site" is popular. It allows you to extend the brand. NJ is the home of the Jets during the season, and LI is their home for camp. Everyone is somewhat happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think the "other teams do it too" excuse is a bunch of BS. I would be very curious to know how many teams build a brand new state of the art $75 million dollar facility and fail to hold even one TC session there. I would be willing to be it's not many, and most likely the Jets would be the first to pull off a stunt like that. Fans in New Jersey have been waiting a long time to have the team in their backyard. I could care less that they practice in Florham Park 10 months out of the year. Those practice sessions are all closed to the public. TC is the only way to experience practice first hand, and now they are taking it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think the "other teams do it too" excuse is a bunch of BS. I would be very curious to know how many teams build a brand new state of the art $75 million dollar facility and fail to hold even one TC session there. I would be willing to be it's not many, and most likely the Jets would be the first to pull off a stunt like that. Fans in New Jersey have been waiting a long time to have the team in their backyard. I could care less that they practice in Florham Park 10 months out of the year. Those practice sessions are all closed to the public. TC is the only way to experience practice first hand, and now they are taking it away. Do the research yourself and you'll find that a lot of teams have their training camps off-site from their in-season homes. It's not BS, it's just a fact that some people can't seem to understand. I live in NJ so it's not like I wasn't looking forward to going, but I'm smart enough to realize why they're doing it this way. Some people really need to get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think the "other teams do it too" excuse is a bunch of BS. I would be very curious to know how many teams build a brand new state of the art $75 million dollar facility and fail to hold even one TC session there. I would be willing to be it's not many, and most likely the Jets would be the first to pull off a stunt like that. Fans in New Jersey have been waiting a long time to have the team in their backyard. I could care less that they practice in Florham Park 10 months out of the year. Those practice sessions are all closed to the public. TC is the only way to experience practice first hand, and now they are taking it away. Well, the Giants are one. Fans on LI have been waiting for a long time to have the team come back and play their home games here, or at least in the state. Queens was an exciting alternative, as was the Manhattan site. Instead, they signed on to be the Giants bitches for the foreseeable future. LI fans are bent, and have a right to be. Having training camp here makes sense. You don't have a lot to complain about with home games on your side of the GWB, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Do the research yourself and you'll find that a lot of teams have their training camps off-site from their in-season homes. It's not BS, it's just a fact that some people can't seem to understand. I live in NJ so it's not like I wasn't looking forward to going, but I'm smart enough to realize why they're doing it this way. Some people really need to get a clue. Again, how many teams build brand new, state of the art, high priced facilities and fail to hold just one TC session there? I don't care about teams that have practiced in the same outdated facility for years and have TC in another location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Well, the Giants are one. Fans on LI have been waiting for a long time to have the team come back and play their home games here, or at least in the state. Queens was an exciting alternative, as was the Manhattan site. Instead, they signed on to be the Giants bitches for the foreseeable future. LI fans are bent, and have a right to be. Having training camp here makes sense. You don't have a lot to complain about with home games on your side of the GWB, IMHO. The Giants facility is not done yet, and from what I have read, the team plans to have their TC held in the new facility at the Meadowlands starting in 2010. No team in their right mind builds a brand new facility and elects to have their TC off site right off the bat. Well, except for the Jets of course. I'm not getting into a stadium location debate here. Different issue, different thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The Jets came out and said this decision didn't have anything to do with not being able to do it at the Florham Park facility, but more because the coach wants to have the team be away from everything and be together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 How pathetic is this franchise.........really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jet Moses Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 How pathetic is this franchise.........really? I just gets better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I fully endorse this plan. Why does everyone else care so much? Training Camp has ALWAYS been on LI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'm sorry but I've had it with this nonsense... THERES NO WHERE FOR THE TEAM TO BE HOUSED. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY Why would anyone in there right mind build housing for 1 month out of the year? Why? To be near the state of the art equipment they put in Florham Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I think the "other teams do it too" excuse is a bunch of BS. I would be very curious to know how many teams build a brand new state of the art $75 million dollar facility and fail to hold even one TC session there. I would be willing to be it's not many, and most likely the Jets would be the first to pull off a stunt like that. Fans in New Jersey have been waiting a long time to have the team in their backyard. I could care less that they practice in Florham Park 10 months out of the year. Those practice sessions are all closed to the public. TC is the only way to experience practice first hand, and now they are taking it away. Thank you. I think that is the point here. I understand if Rex wants to have the whole "camp experience". And they should do what the coach says gives them the best chance to win. But they are also screwing NJ over here and NJ has been good to this team. I think they owed it to NJ to do at least one camp in Florham Park. It wasn't like they left Hofstra and said we are not sure where camp will be next year. They left Hofstra for Florham Park. This is just another case of the Jets being the Jets. If they wanted to do an away camp they should have just stayed at Hofstra. But the Jets have a hard time thinking ahead so this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Well, the Giants are one. Fans on LI have been waiting for a long time to have the team come back and play their home games here, or at least in the state. Queens was an exciting alternative, as was the Manhattan site. Instead, they signed on to be the Giants bitches for the foreseeable future. LI fans are bent, and have a right to be. Having training camp here makes sense. You don't have a lot to complain about with home games on your side of the GWB, IMHO. Well the whole NY stadium issue is played out so I won't even touch that. I will just say I wish it worked out that the new stadium was the Jets alone and in NY. That would have been the best thing for this team. But NJ fans do have a lot to complain about here. Camp isn't being held in NJ and that is what everyone expected when they left Hofstra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 This whole thing is ****ing stupid. Eff this stupid franchise. I finally get the chance to be within reasonable driving distance to training and they're looking for places in NY. ****ing stupid. Hey, ******* New York Jets, any plans on having any draft day parties in NJ? Oh, all 3 are in NY? Again? **** YOU ****ING DOOSHES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 It wasn't like they left Hofstra and said we are not sure where camp will be next year. They left Hofstra for Florham Park. This is just another case of the Jets being the Jets. If they wanted to do an away camp they should have just stayed at Hofstra. I agree with that last line. I think the Jets may've originally underestimated just how much they were pissing off their Long Island fan base. And that's a big group of loyal fans. Upsetting that big a group right at the moment that you're trying to get them to take out a mortgage for eight square feet of sitting space probably wasn't the best plan. If camp does wind up in Stony Brook, I would definitely think it was some sort of appeasement. In my opinion, the plan all along should've been to keep camp on the island, and move into the Florham Park facility in time to finish up the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 If they wanted to do an away camp they should have just stayed at Hofstra. But the Jets have a hard time thinking ahead so this makes sense. I think the problem is this: 1) the Jets don't want to pay the Hofstra to keep leasing that space out year round. 2) Hofstra obviously has another use for that space in mind. Room to grow is a big problem for colleges. Especially ones in the suburbs. 3) They spoke to Hofstra already about this and it didn't result in an agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I agree with that last line. I think the Jets may've originally underestimated just how much they were pissing off their Long Island fan base. And that's a big group of loyal fans. Upsetting that big a group right at the moment that you're trying to get them to take out a mortgage for eight square feet of sitting space probably wasn't the best plan. If camp does wind up in Stony Brook, I would definitely think it was some sort of appeasement. In my opinion, the plan all along should've been to keep camp on the island, and move into the Florham Park facility in time to finish up the preseason. Well you are partly right. The long island fan base being annoyed isn't the reason they would move back. Woody would let you feel up his sister if he could profit from it. If they move it is because Rex wanted a sleep over camp and they scrambled to find a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 LOL at you guys complaining and criticizing the Jets. They paid $75 million for a state-of-the-art facility which the organization uses 365 days a year and the team trains at for 10 out of 12 months. Training camp with the fans is just a fraction of what the team does. But you guys act as if Training Cap last all year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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