afosomf Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 The spread O that Leach runs may make him much better than he appears I stay away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 The spread O that Leach runs may make him much better than he appears I stay away from him WR might be the only position that the spread offense doesn't really affect, you run your route, catch the ball. Crabtree will be an elite receiver in 3 years, I would love for the Jets to draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 WR might be the only position that the spread offense doesn't really affect, you run your route, catch the ball. Crabtree will be an elite receiver in 3 years, I would love for the Jets to draft him. It is a gimmick O that opposing teams struggle with I would like to see him in a pro set before i give him top 10 coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 It is a gimmick O that opposing teams struggle with I would like to see him in a pro set before i give him top 10 coin Look him up on YouTube, you should be impressed enough to want to pay him. By far the most talented WR in this draft...Maclin a distant second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 In most cases, wideouts from spread offenses come to the pros more ready to compete rather than less ready than their counterparts in pro styule offenses. They get used to catchig the ball with their hands and looking to turn and make plays. Look at Devone Bess with the Dolfags for proof. Wes Welker has had a preetty good career after leaving Tech. I think you can tell enough about Crabtree's hands, playmaking ability and size to know he is a pretty safe pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 The spread O that Leach runs may make him much better than he appears I stay away from him You mean appear much better than he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 You mean appear much better than he is? Yes too much Scotch and lemoncello last nite.....mixed with cough syrup:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yes too much Scotch and lemoncello last nite.....mixed with cough syrup:D As though there was any other way to drink it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 This is what I don't get, Crabtree scares the hell out of people and yet little is being said about being scared about DHB. Obviously taking DHB at 17 vs trading up for Crabtree are different levels of risk, but no one seems that concerned with the fact that DHB's college production has been mediocre. I'm very high on Crabtree. Yes, his stats were inflated due to the pass happy offense Tech ran, but I don't think the system MADE him into something he is not. IMO, the guy is a physical talent and this year's best receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 This is what I don't get, Crabtree scares the hell out of people and yet little is being said about being scared about DHB. Obviously taking DHB at 17 vs trading up for Crabtree are different levels of risk, but no one seems that concerned with the fact that DHB's college production has been mediocre. I'm very high on Crabtree. Yes, his stats were inflated due to the pass happy offense Tech ran, but I don't think the system MADE him into something he is not. IMO, the guy is a physical talent and this year's best receiver. +1 -I understand the fear with DHB, lack of production. However, he had no one to throw the ball to him at Maryland. His size and speed are scary, and the potential is there for him to be a #1 NFL receiver. I think he will develop into just that. All that being said, the only person I would want the Jets to move up to the top 10 for; would be Crabtree (the system didn't make him into something he's not, he's that good). If they DONT trade up, and stay at 17, draft Heyward-Bey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 +1 -I understand the fear with DHB, lack of production. However, he had no one to throw the ball to him at Maryland. His size and speed are scary, and the potential is there for him to be a #1 NFL receiver. I think he will develop into just that. All that being said, the only person I would want the Jets to move up to the top 10 for; would be Crabtree (the system didn't make him into something he's not, he's that good). If they DONT trade up, and stay at 17, draft Heyward-Bey. I agree about no QB to throw it to him, but for me at least it's still a concern that shouldn't be swept under the rug. There's no question DHB has the athletic potential to be a #1, I just worry because he has combine riser written all over him and no one is stopping to realize it. Note, i'm not saying DHB was an unknown quantity, as he was highly touted for a while now, but there definitely was a level of disappointment with his season. Had he not exploded at the combine, would he be in everyone's mix at 17? I'm not sure. WR seems pretty deep in this class with a good mixture of a #1 types, #2 types, and slot receivers. And since we could use good WRs, I'd be satisfied with DHB at 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I agree about no QB to throw it to him, but for me at least it's still a concern that shouldn't be swept under the rug. There's no question DHB has the athletic potential to be a #1, I just worry because he has combine riser written all over him and no one is stopping to realize it. Note, i'm not saying DHB was an unknown quantity, as he was highly touted for a while now, but there definitely was a level of disappointment with his season. Had he not exploded at the combine, would he be in everyone's mix at 17? I'm not sure. WR seems pretty deep in this class with a good mixture of a #1 types, #2 types, and slot receivers. And since we could use good WRs, I'd be satisfied with DHB at 17. I think it's a risk worth taking. I would prefer they get Crabtree somehow, but drafting DHB is a very good 2nd option IMO. I just hope to god we don't pick Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I love Crabtree. The only reason to be scared is that he might not be very fast. He seems like he'll be productive, but I wouldn't want to give up a king's ransom to move up for a guy that is borderline slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 DHB is the one that scares me. I have not seen enough of him being able to run routes and make big catches in traffic. Most of his stats were amassed through wide receiver screens where he catches a 5 yard toss and puts his head down and runs fast in a straight line until he runs out of running room. I don't see the shiftiness or the awareness to be able to be a playmaker at the pro level. I acknowledge he is big and fast, but that ain't enough to draft him with a mid first round pick. I see DHB as a second round talent at best that would be a reach at 17. I would much rather take a wideout with less speed and more moxy as a receiver like Nicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 His supposedly huge ego worries me but I think he'll be a Keyshawn Johnson clone which is pretty good. Don't know if I'd pay a large price to move up for that though. But if he fell a little and we could get in range by giving up a 3rd rounder I think I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEW YORK JETS FAN Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Crabtree is going to be a huge Bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLs StepChild Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Crabtree is going to be a huge Bust. WTF? Nice definitive statement there. Crabtree has EVERYTHING you want in a WR. Besides all of the obvious tools, hands, routes, speed, burst, acceleration...he reads defenses extremely well and finds the openings on his own. He is a rare talent and a very good football mind. If the Jets have a shot to get him they need to do it. He was without question the best WR in the NFL for the past 2 years. His upside is sky high. He can be another Torry Holt or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I think it's a risk worth taking. I would prefer they get Crabtree somehow, but drafting DHB is a very good 2nd option IMO. I just hope to god we don't pick Sanchez. Seems like alot of Jets fans are scared of Sanchez as well. I say take him if he's there. Seems like a ton of good QB's have been churning out recently, hope ya's land your franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 If Crabtree scares you than Maclin should scare you 2x more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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