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From NY Daily News

Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:23 am EDT

Jewish fans complain to Jets, NFL about schedule

The New York Jets complained to NFL Headquaters Wednesday about their schedule, which has their first two home games of the 2009 season being scheduled for Rosh Hashanah and then hours before the start of Yom Kippur, the two holiest holidays in the Jewish calendar, the New York Daily News reported.

"The Jets are hearing from their fans," said Howard Katz, the NFL's senior VP of broadcasting, who oversees the creation of the schedule. "There was miscommunication between the Jets and the NFL office, for which I take full responsibility. All we can continue to do is look and see if there is a solution to this."

The Giants requested the NFL put them on the road Sept. 20 and Sept. 27, the second and third weeks of the season. Apparently, the Jets also requested not to play at home on those days, but the message did not get through, Katz said. As a result, unless the league does some juggling, Jets ticket holders who observe the holidays will not be able to attend 25% of the team's home games. New York has the largest Jewish community in the country, the Daily News reported.

Could they actually change anything about this at this point?

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From NY Daily News

Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:23 am EDT

Jewish fans complain to Jets, NFL about schedule

The New York Jets complained to NFL Headquaters Wednesday about their schedule, which has their first two home games of the 2009 season being scheduled for Rosh Hashanah and then hours before the start of Yom Kippur, the two holiest holidays in the Jewish calendar, the New York Daily News reported.

"The Jets are hearing from their fans," said Howard Katz, the NFL's senior VP of broadcasting, who oversees the creation of the schedule. "There was miscommunication between the Jets and the NFL office, for which I take full responsibility. All we can continue to do is look and see if there is a solution to this."

The Giants requested the NFL put them on the road Sept. 20 and Sept. 27, the second and third weeks of the season. Apparently, the Jets also requested not to play at home on those days, but the message did not get through, Katz said. As a result, unless the league does some juggling, Jets ticket holders who observe the holidays will not be able to attend 25% of the team's home games. New York has the largest Jewish community in the country, the Daily News reported.

Could they actually change anything about this at this point?

Just don`t touch the F-ING N.O. game as I have booked my flt. already.

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The Jews have a choice to make...Either go to the Jets game or spend time with the family @ the house...Big deal.

When you have season tickets which cost thousands of dollars and you have to miss a quarter of the games because of religious observances it is a big deal.

No offense but you should think before you type...

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When you have season tickets which cost thousands of dollars and you have to miss a quarter of the games because of religious observances it is a big deal.

No offense but you should think before you type...

I understand that, but @ the same time... The NFL should not schedule games because of religious belief because if thats the case...They should play the games on Saturdays because Sunday is a religious day here in America. One time I had to go to Church from 10-4 with my family and guess what? I missed a Jets game and I spent over 200 for the NFL Season ticket...Cry me a river

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If the story is true, than this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only does the NFL treat the Jets organization as second class citizens, they treat the Jet fans that way as well.

I'm not Jewish, but I can understand why they would be upset. What bothers me is that the Giants and Jets both allegedly made this request, but only the Giants request was heard (the Jets requests were "lost"). If this is true (and the Jets didn't drop the ball, which wouldn't surprise me either frankly), than this means that not only do the Giants get the benefit of opening up at home for the 18th time since 1984 (the Jets only got that benefit seven times), but that they also get the benefit of having two road games when requested but the Jets didn't get that same benefit.

I'm frankly sick and tired of the preferential treatment that certain organizations and fans within the NFL get (why is Arizona only getting their third opening game at home in 20+ years). I don't get why this preferential treatment is given to the certain organizations (such as the Giants, Pats*, and Broncos just to name a few). Its as if the NFL holds these teams (and their fans) in higher regard. Wake up NFL: Every team in the NFL has fans that pay for tickets, buy jerseys and other NFL goods, buy the sunday ticket, etc. Our money is just as green as that of the Giants, why aren't we treated this way.

I swear I wish another football league that couldn't legitimately compete with the NFL would come about. Certain people in the NFL have WAAAAAYYYYY too much influence and has made the game questionable at best (if not out and out corrupt). And since there is no competition, the fans get screwed in the process.

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At the end of the day who cares? Are they gonna change the schedule based on what a Christian wants, or what a Muslim Wants, so why should the JEws get special treatment. Just stay home & watch it on tv if its such a big deal. Religion and sports shouldnt mix imo. I do agree that the NFL seems to have it in for the JETS, and always give preferential treatment to other teams.

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I understand that, but @ the same time... The NFL should not schedule games because of religious belief because if thats the case...They should play the games on Saturdays because Sunday is a religious day here in America. One time I had to go to Church from 10-4 with my family and guess what? I missed a Jets game and I spent over 200 for the NFL Season ticket...Cry me a river

You have a good points all which are fair, all I can say is that the Jets requested these as away games because of its large Jewish fan base, the second game with an issue is on Yom Kippur and it could be remedied by switching it from 4 to 1 which doesnt seem like that a big a deal from my perspective and 2 games from a season package is considerably more money than $200, im guessing $1250 using the assumption that the average package costs $5000.

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I understand that, but @ the same time... The NFL should not schedule games because of religious belief because if thats the case...They should play the games on Saturdays because Sunday is a religious day here in America. One time I had to go to Church from 10-4 with my family and guess what? I missed a Jets game and I spent over 200 for the NFL Season ticket...Cry me a river

I agree , if they do it for one religious group they have to do it for others. Might as well just leave it as is.

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I swear I wish another football league that couldn't legitimately compete with the NFL would come about. Certain people in the NFL have WAAAAAYYYYY too much influence and has made the game questionable at best (if not out and out corrupt). And since there is no competition, the fans get screwed in the process

By the time the new league became large enough to compete with the NFL the same type of **** would happen to it. It might be with different teams in different cities but preferential treatment goes hand in hand with big business.

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At the end of the day who cares? Are they gonna change the schedule based on what a Christian wants, or what a Muslim Wants, so why should the JEws get special treatment. Just stay home & watch it on tv if its such a big deal. Religion and sports shouldnt mix imo. I do agree that the NFL seems to have it in for the JETS, and always give preferential treatment to other teams.

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At the end of the day who cares? Are they gonna change the schedule based on what a Christian wants, or what a Muslim Wants, so why should the JEws get special treatment. Just stay home & watch it on tv if its such a big deal. Religion and sports shouldnt mix imo. I do agree that the NFL seems to have it in for the JETS, and always give preferential treatment to other teams.

Check that!

I just spoke to my friend who is Jewish and she said on Yom Kippur Jews arent allowed to turn on any electronics, so they cant watch it at home. So I can understand why they're frustrated, but my opinion stays the same, Sports and Religion like Sports and Politics shouldnt mix because someone's always gonna feel slighted.

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The schedule will NOT change (there's too many moving parts involved). That is, games won't be switched to different dates. Times may definately be changed though.

For instance, the Jets game will likely be moved from 4:15 to 1pm. There's no reason the Giant road game is at 1 pm.

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i agree that they shouldnt change the games, BUT i do think it was thoughtless of them to make the 27th a 4pm game.. really how many 4pm games do we have at the meadowlands? it is not as if we are playing a west coast team on that date either.

when the dates fall accordingly, they play games on christmas and christmas eve also.

it is just bab bad planning on the NFL's part. Maybe i should email them and tell them that i will be their Jewish scheduling consultant. all i require is press passes for the Jets games. :D

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Check that!

I just spoke to my friend who is Jewish and she said on Yom Kippur Jews arent allowed to turn on any electronics, so they cant watch it at home. So I can understand why they're frustrated, but my opinion stays the same, Sports and Religion like Sports and Politics shouldnt mix because someone's always gonna feel slighted.

Yeah, but they can always do what I do on Monday night games when the Jets play when Im at work, and thats....Record the game

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I understand why they are complaining. Catholics are allowed to watch sports on holidays. Jews arent.

Its a shame that the NFL messed this up. But... its just sports. I feel worse for people who have workplaces who dont understand the needs of their employees.

The one thing I cant believe is that the Jets didnt know the schedule before it was released.

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I understand why they are complaining. Catholics are allowed to watch sports on holidays. Jews arent.

If Cardinal O'Connor can give a dispensation for Catholics to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day on a Friday during Lent, then why can't Jews be allowed to exercise the same rule-bending to watch football on Yom Kippur?

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If Cardinal O'Connor can give a dispensation for Catholics to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day on a Friday during Lent, then why can't Jews be allowed to exercise the same rule-bending to watch football on Yom Kippur?

Because Jews dont bend the rules to satisfy their members. Catholics do whats popular so they can keep their attendance up and the money flowing in.

I'm not jewish, but I respect them for staying with traditions. It takes a heck of a lot to be a good Jew.

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The Jews have a choice to make...Either go to the Jets game or spend time with the family @ the house...Big deal.

Not for real Jets fans. I travel to all Jets home games and in fact I have missed 8 home games since 1981 and I live full-time in south Florida, I know that the number will be 10 next year thanks to the schedule. I guess it is easy for a fan to say miss the game if he really does not attend home games any way:rolleyes:.

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The schedule should not change. If the Jews cant watch Football on Sundays, thats just stupid and if they're big enough fans they'll tune in anyways. Or hey, tape the game and watch it Monday morning. Whats the big deal? They couldn't watch the game if it was on the road either. If you can't attend those two games there will be PLENTY of people willing to pay for the Patriot game, probably 2x face value, and you can get face for the Tennessee game. Your loss for being so religious.

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The schedule should not change. If the Jews cant watch Football on Sundays, thats just stupid and if they're big enough fans they'll tune in anyways. Or hey, tape the game and watch it Monday morning. Whats the big deal? They couldn't watch the game if it was on the road either. If you can't attend those two games there will be PLENTY of people willing to pay for the Patriot game, probably 2x face value, and you can get face for the Tennessee game. Your loss for being so religious.

I think thats why they scheduled 2 good opponents on those dates... they know Jews like money and they will have to scalp their tickets and make a nice profit.

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I think thats why they scheduled 2 good opponents on those dates... they know Jews like money and they will have to scalp their tickets and make a nice profit.

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No. But why are we being treated as 2nd class citizens? Why 2 straight home games? Shouldnt Jew-Giant fans have to sacrifice and suffer also?

I'm not necessarily buying the 2nd class citizens argument. I HIGHLY doubt that the NFL consciously decided to schedule the games in an effort to screw over Jewish Jets fans instead of Jewish Giants fans.

We may play the last NFL game in Giants Stadium ever. Were we 2nd class citizens when the NFL decided to schedule our last regular season game at home?

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I'm not necessarily buying the 2nd class citizens argument. I HIGHLY doubt that the NFL consciously decided to schedule the games in an effort to screw over Jewish Jets fans instead of Jewish Giants fans.

We may play the last NFL game in Giants Stadium ever. Were we 2nd class citizens when the NFL decided to schedule our last regular season game at home?

Giants and Jets both requested to be away. Giants got their request. Jets didnt. I take it no other way than they are treating us like crap.

If that game meant anything, the NFL wouldnt schedule the Bengals. They would schedule a real team... maybe a division opponent.

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The Jews have a choice to make...Either go to the Jets game or spend time with the family @ the house...Big deal.

Tampa, I just do not think you get the problem...

As the eldest male of a Jewish Household. I can understand your statement when it comes to Rosh Hashanah (that's only New Years). Most Conservative & Reformed Jews agree with you on that one - We've been to temple at sundown on the evening of the 17th, heard the Shofar and it's not supposed to be as much about reflection over the past year, as that of celebration. Plus we've been to Temple again on Saturday.

I really do not think they need to change anything with the September 19th game because of this.

However, Yom Kippur is as significant to those of the Jewish faith as EASTER to most Catholics/Christians. It is our day for attoning to one's sins & it begins a 24-hour fast that will run until sundown the next day.

That being said, we are talking about Sunday, September 27, 2009 @ 6:37 PM as the beginning of the fast.

The NFL has scheduled the JETS/TITANS game at Giants Stadium for a 4:15 Kickoff.

What harm, with the Giants on the road, would it be for them to just reschedule the kickoff for 1:00 PM.

A large number of Season ticket holders who are Jewish could easily make the trip home well ahead of Sundown & be in Temple prior to the beginning of services.

The issue at hand is that the NFL did not think & instead of making arrangements with JETS and the largest Jewish Community in the United States, they made adjustment for the Giants - Leaving the Jewish fans of the New York Jets feeling the way that most Giants Fans treat all JETS fans - As their B-Strd Step-Child.

That's the problem...

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Giants and Jets both requested to be away. Giants got their request. Jets didnt. I take it no other way than they are treating us like crap.

If that game meant anything, the NFL wouldnt schedule the Bengals. They would schedule a real team... maybe a division opponent.

The NFL Senior VP of Broadcasting took full responsibility. Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Can't it just be an honest mistake?

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