gsnts725 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Every Mock Draft I've been looking at lately projects us picking Josh Freaking Freeman. I thought he was way too inconsistent to be considered be a first round prospect despite his "high ceiling." If we pick this guy I may shoot myself... :bag::bag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Since when was Jay Cutler a first round prospect? Since when was Jerod Mayo a first round prospect? In January before each was drafted, they were expected to be 3rd round picks. Guys move up sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Every Mock Draft I've been looking at lately projects us picking Josh Freaking Freeman. I thought he was way too inconsistent to be considered be a first round prospect despite his "high ceiling." If we pick this guy I may shoot myself... :bag::bag: The guy is physically gifted. Its a shot like any other. There are no sure things at #17, especially at WR, arguably the Jets greatest position of immediate need. Even if Clemens becomes an excellent NFL QB Freeman could develop into a commodity. He's not my first choice but I wouldn't be upset if they took him. Anyway, I bet he's gone by #17 (someone like TB will leapfrog the Jets to get him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Freeman is jumping up based on the "cost of the next best option". After Freeman, the QB options drop rather steeply to Bomar or McNeil. In my opinion, in a normal draft neither Bomar or McNeil would be drafted before the 6th round. They will both be taken before then (probably round 4). This is an extremely weak QB draft and as a result guys like Freeman (second round talent), Bomar and McNeil are benefitting. The same thing happens in reverse when a position is real strong. There will be offensive tackles that go in the second round this year that are first round talents in other drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 If we had a more established, secure coach/front office situation, I'd be pretty excited to take a chance on Freeman. You can't teach size. He put up good numbers despite playing for a less-than-stellar college team. There's a very high ceiling on the guy. I just don't think that the T-Rex can afford to have their first round selection be strictly a future investment, with no short term gains likely. Tanny can't afford it the year after Gholston, and Rex needs to be clicking on all cylinders in his debut season - because when Tanny goes, chances are the new GM will want to bring in his own head coach, too. No, these guys need to be on the same page, and they need a player who's going to help them in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Freeman is jumping up based on the "cost of the next best option". After Freeman, the QB options drop rather steeply to Bomar or McNeil. In my opinion, in a normal draft neither Bomar or McNeil would be drafted before the 6th round. They will both be taken before then (probably round 4). This is an extremely weak QB draft and as a result guys like Freeman (second round talent), Bomar and McNeil are benefitting. The same thing happens in reverse when a position is real strong. There will be offensive tackles that go in the second round this year that are first round talents in other drafts. Good point. Happened with Flacco also. Another guy who was a 3rd round prospect in February who went in round 1 in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Freeman is jumping up based on the "cost of the next best option". After Freeman, the QB options drop rather steeply to Bomar or McNeil. In my opinion, in a normal draft neither Bomar or McNeil would be drafted before the 6th round. They will both be taken before then (probably round 4). This is an extremely weak QB draft and as a result guys like Freeman (second round talent), Bomar and McNeil are benefitting. The same thing happens in reverse when a position is real strong. There will be offensive tackles that go in the second round this year that are first round talents in other drafts. what he said and the idea that you have to get a guy at a position that is "worth" what the price tag will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachelors3 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 The guy has a cannon for an arm and played on a really bad team. Plus, his TD to interception ratio is outstanding. If he sits for several games we can learn if Clemens is the real deal. If Clemens is the real deal, then Freeman is like money in the bank. Teams without a QB will be offering us the world. (See Matt Robinson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Every Mock Draft I've been looking at lately projects us picking Josh Freaking Freeman. I thought he was way too inconsistent to be considered be a first round prospect despite his "high ceiling." If we pick this guy I may shoot myself... :bag::bag: Back the calendar up 1 yr, and insert Gholston for Freeman and you have the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Freeman is potentially an example of why teams that go against their board and reach for positions of need generally have less success in the draft. Some organizations would never consider Freeman at 17 because he is the 40th best player in the draft (just a guess) and would be too much of a reach. They would prefer to take the best available player regardless of position. As soon as you say, "we will take the best player avaialable, but adjust our selection slightly based on need" you open up the possibility of reaching as the Jets would if they took Freeman at 17. If I ran the board, I would trade up for Sanchez or trade up in the second round or trade back in the first for Freeman. If neither of those presents itself, I don't take a QB and I certainly don't take Freeman at 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Every Mock Draft I've been looking at lately projects us picking Josh Freaking Freeman. I thought he was way too inconsistent to be considered be a first round prospect despite his "high ceiling." If we pick this guy I may shoot myself... :bag::bag: He moved up only because he's the 3rd best QB in a very crappy draft for QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Back the calendar up 1 yr, and insert Gholston for Freeman and you have the same thing. Huh? Gholston was a first round talent. Prior to the combine, Gholston was a top 15 pick. He only moved up a few spots as the draft approach, not a whole round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 He's probably an early 2nd round pick that's being pushed up because of potential and the drop-off in value after him. I agree we shouldn't take him at 17 but as Stonehands said I wouldn't be completely upset if they traded back into the late 1st for him if he fell. I personally wouldn't touch him until the mid 2nd round though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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