Mel Kiper jr. vs. Todd McShay

[JoeC36]

who do you prefer for you NFL Draft coverage

[Larz]

other : gil brandt

[Ghost]

Todd McShay

[PFSIKH]

McShay.

[Ghost]

I just hate Mel Kiper's hair.

[T0mShane]

McShay is a half-retard wannbe scout reject who re-invented himself as some kind of draft guru. The fact that ESPN disrespects Mel Kiper's years of service to an industry he created by making him have to defend himself against the nitwit parrot McShay is despicable.

[slats]

T0m McShane

[afosomf]

mayock is the best not close

[gsnts725]

May**** is the best but if i had to choose one of these guys i'd pick McShay

[afosomf]

mayock over kiper

Kiper thinks too highly of himself

[Blackout]

mel kiper will be off espn in 5 years

[Irish Jet]

Mayock is much better than both.

[T0mShane]

T0m McShane

I shoot 12% on my player estimations. I'm still waiting for Robert Gallery to show "Hall of Fame" form.

[StillerPaul]

I went with Kyper out of respect for years of service and what he put into making the draft what it is today.

I think we can all agree that he played a major role in the early draft coverage years.

[GreenBeans]

I'd take Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan from Sirius over any of these jokers.

[124]

Mike Mayock, FTW.

[war ensemble]

Matt Bitonti!

[StillerPaul]

Matt Bitonti!

Funny you should mention him. Thats pretty much the only draft related site i frequent. Thnose guys do a good job over there.

[Thai Jet]

I like Mel. That is all.

[Thai Jet]

McShay is a half-retard wannbe scout reject who re-invented himself as some kind of draft guru. The fact that ESPN disrespects Mel Kiper's years of service to an industry he created by making him have to defend himself against the nitwit parrot McShay is despicable.

That's ESPN for you.

[Pragmatic Bus]

I like Mel. That is all.

i wouldn't trust any ESPN analyst other than Trey Wingo

[SouthernJet]

I know Mel..he is a nice guy with a mouth like a sailor,,,funny as hell...

[afosomf]

I know Mel..he is a nice guy with a mouth like a sailor,,,funny as hell...

Mel is a nice guy

But mayock is better, he also played football

mel relies on scouts feeding him data

mayock can analyze a player via film ...a big difference between the 2

[Blackout]

i wouldn't trust any ESPN analyst other than Trey Wingo

trey wingo is a giant douche....seriously who takes the stage name Trey Wingo? maybe a weather man

[SouthernJet]

Mel is a nice guy

But mayock is better, he also played football

mel relies on scouts feeding him data

mayock can analyze a player via film ...a big difference between the 2

taht doesnt mean shiiit if the guy doesnt analyze right..

just being a former player doenst make a better analyzer, just like a former player doesnt always make u a better coach..

they are all pretty good,,but I go with Mel. he is very honest and pulls zero punches and doesnt 'protect' some players cause of former player allegiance ..

plus I know him

[SouthernJet]

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[Blackout]

i voted for Mel Kiper

but after seeing McShay on Mike and Mike today I wish I could change my vote...Mcshay is funny.

[afosomf]

taht doesnt mean shiiit if the guy doesnt analyze right..

just being a former player doenst make a better analyzer, just like a former player doesnt always make u a better coach..

they are all pretty good,,but I go with Mel. he is very honest and pulls zero punches and doesnt 'protect' some players cause of former player allegiance ..

plus I know him

Of course it makes a difference, mayock played college ball at BC

We are not talking about him being a coach, he can spot the little things that

Kiper has no clue

Mel relies on measurements and scouts feeding him data

mayock does it by himself.

[SouthernJet]

Of course it makes a difference, mayock played college ball at BC

We are not talking about him being a coach, he can spot the little things that

Kiper has no clue

Mel relies on measurements and scouts feeding him data

mayock does it by himself.

again,,it only makes a difference if the former player does a good job at it,,thats what I said..being a former player doesnt automatically make you a better analyzer..

read better

[afosomf]

again,,it only makes a difference if the former player does a good job at it,,thats what I said..being a former player doesnt automatically make you a better analyzer..

read better

Umm you inferred that mayock isn't good

i trust mayock much more than Mel

[SouthernJet]

Umm you inferred that mayock isn't good

i trust mayock much more than Mel

no i didnt imply that ,,i made ageneric statement..

mayock is good,,i am just saying dont automatically trust a former player,,look at herbstriet

but if someone can find it,,i do beleive last year they had a article looking at last few years drafts for major TV and print guys and Mel had highest marks for accuracy

[afosomf]

no i didnt imply that ,,i made ageneric statement..

mayock is good,,i am just saying dont automatically trust a former player,,look at herbstriet

Herbsteit doesn't analyze drafts...nice try;)

[afosomf]

Kiper was also rumored to push certian players in return for Kickbacks, this

was before he made his millions with ESPN

[SouthernJet]

Herbsteit doesn't analyze drafts...nice try;)

he is on the panel from bristol every year,,usually with jaws

[SouthernJet]

Kiper was also rumored to push certian players in return for Kickbacks, this

was before he made his millions with ESPN

proof please? link ?