Jetfan13 Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 by Matt Gelb/The Star-Ledger Wednesday June 10, 2009, 9:40 PM Rick Stewart/GettyImages Kris Jenkins clearly has the body of a nose tackle, but Wednesday at Jets minicamp, Jenkins got to play a little defensive end. The last time Kris Jenkins played defensive end was 12 years ago in preseason camp as a freshman at the University of Maryland. "And that was like for a day or two," Jenkins said. But this week at Jets minicamp, head coach Rex Ryan has occasionally moved Jenkins away from his customary nose tackle position to defensive end. All a matter of experimenting, Ryan said. "We know he can play nose tackle," Ryan said. "I also want to challenge him mentally to where he can learn all of the spots. That way, if we think we have a certain mismatch with our guy, then we'll put him in those spots." Ryan made a similar move with Haloti Ngata while in Baltimore. But he said he sees Jenkins spending the majority of his time at the familiar tackle spot where has earned four Pro Bowl appearances. Jenkins said he knew going into this season that he would be expected to become a faster player on the defensive line. "I think I'll be moving around," Jenkins said. "This is a more versatile defense, so they are going to have me doing a lot more." The Jets dedicated an extended period of the morning practice implementing the Wildcat offense that Miami made popular last season. And it could be a package the Jets employ simply because of the athleticism of running back Leon Washington and wide receiver Brad Smith. "Those are things we're going to look at," Ryan said. "It took the league by storm, a few opponents anyway." Ryan was quick to point out that his Baltimore defense had no trouble with Miami's popular version of the Wildcat last season in defeating the Dolphins twice. Last season, the Jets scarcely used the formation. Practicing the Wildcat was good for the offense, Ryan said, but also can help the defense in recognizing the different gadget plays. He predicted more teams will use the Wildcat this season, along with other option packages. "It's a great opportunity for the defense to get a look at that stuff," he said, "and a great tuneup for our own offense." A day after more than one punt sailed into the crowd during afternoon practice, the Jets brought back last year's punter, Reggie Hodges. Eric Wilbur was released to make room for Hodges. Ryan singled out safety Eric Smith, who had three interceptions on Tuesday and another Wednesday, as a defensive player on the rise. "He's really taken off for us," Ryan said... Converted defensive end and now tight end Kareem Brown had what Ryan called "a huge day." ... Mark Sanchez and Kellen Clemens both excelled in afternoon one-minute drills. Later, Dwight Lowery intercepted a Sanchez pass in the end zone during 7-on-7 work... The morning practice drew an estimated 1,500 fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Why not give him a shot at safety? He seems agile enough for the position. Running back maybe, or even QB in MIAMIS' wildcat package that the Jets are copying. In all seriousness, Jenkins should only be at NT, when he wasn't there last year your team suffered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I love that picture 1-3, Troy Edwards is Kris Jenkins' bitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Why not give him a shot at safety? He seems agile enough for the position. Running back maybe, or even QB in MIAMIS' wildcat package that the Jets are copying. In all seriousness, Jenkins should only be at NT, when he wasn't there last year your team suffered. LOL...Cornerback Crash, Cornerback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 So FLa, Trent Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 So FLa, Trent Edwards Yea that's right thanks ML...Troy, Trent same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Why not give him a shot at safety? He seems agile enough for the position. You think he could be any worse than Jason Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You think he could be any worse than Jason Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Why not give him a shot at safety? He seems agile enough for the position. Running back maybe, or even QB in MIAMIS' wildcat package that the Jets are copying. In all seriousness, Jenkins should only be at NT, when he wasn't there last year your team suffered. You can't possibly be this stupid. Well, maybe you can be but still, just because the beat writers apparently are, doesn't mean you need to be. Am I the only one who finds it obnoxious that any time the Jets even think about doing any sort of direct snap plays over the past year there's a whole story about them copying the Dolphins success? Meanwhile, the Jets have been running those plays with Brad Smith since the day they f'n drafted him. They just didn't base their entire offensive around it like Miami did last year. Its like these guys don't even follow the damn team they're covering. As far as Jenkins goes, he could play both offense and defense by himself all game long and the Jets would win in a blowout. Next to "beast" in the dictionary is a picture of Kris Jenkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Meh, this isn't anything surprising, Ryan's always done this type of stuff with his NT's. Expect to see it from time to time on Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Short yardage back. I'm tellin' ya Rex! Thank me later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Short yardage back. I'm tellin' ya Rex! Thank me later. good call IJ...William The Refrigerator Perry part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You can't possibly be this stupid. Well, maybe you can be but still, just because the beat writers apparently are, doesn't mean you need to be. Am I the only one who finds it obnoxious that any time the Jets even think about doing any sort of direct snap plays over the past year there's a whole story about them copying the Dolphins success? Meanwhile, the Jets have been running those plays with Brad Smith since the day they f'n drafted him. They just didn't base their entire offensive around it like Miami did last year. Its like these guys don't even follow the damn team they're covering. As far as Jenkins goes, he could play both offense and defense by himself all game long and the Jets would win in a blowout. Next to "beast" in the dictionary is a picture of Kris Jenkins. You are 100% correct the Jets have been running the so-called wild cat long before the Dolphags plagiarized them. The Jets did it to cover up the short comings of their weak armed QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 You are 100% correct the Jets have been running the so-called wild cat long before the Dolphags plagiarized them. The Jets did it to cover up the short comings of their weak armed QB. And now the dol-fags do it with the same weak armed QB..Hey, Maybe Chad is calling the plays now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby2times Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You are 100% correct the Jets have been running the so-called wild cat long before the Dolphags plagiarized them. The Jets did it to cover up the short comings of their weak armed QB. Why do people think Miami created the wildcat? Arkansas created it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Why do people think Miami created the wildcat? Arkansas created it. And our QB coach is David Lee who was a coach with.... Arakansas and Darren McFadden. It all comes full circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You can't possibly be this stupid. Well, maybe you can be but still, just because the beat writers apparently are, doesn't mean you need to be. Am I the only one who finds it obnoxious that any time the Jets even think about doing any sort of direct snap plays over the past year there's a whole story about them copying the Dolphins success? Meanwhile, the Jets have been running those plays with Brad Smith since the day they f'n drafted him. They just didn't base their entire offensive around it like Miami did last year. Its like these guys don't even follow the damn team they're covering. You are 100% correct the Jets have been running the so-called wild cat long before the Dolphags plagiarized them. The Jets did it to cover up the short comings of their weak armed QB. And now the dol-fags do it with the same weak armed QB..Hey, Maybe Chad is calling the plays now I'm positively stunned that crashingjet has chosen not to reply to any of these posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm positively stunned that crashingjet has chosen not to reply to any of these posts. Eh, gimme a minute to cipher through the bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Eh, gimme a minute to cipher through the bs. No BS to sort through. The Jets were running a version of the Wildcat (albeit with less success than the 2008 Dolphins) while Parcells and Sparano were still in Dallas. Saying they "copied" the Dolphins is Sloth-from-The Goonies-level retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You can't possibly be this stupid. Well, maybe you can be but still, just because the beat writers apparently are, doesn't mean you need to be. Am I the only one who finds it obnoxious that any time the Jets even think about doing any sort of direct snap plays over the past year there's a whole story about them copying the Dolphins success? Meanwhile, the Jets have been running those plays with Brad Smith since the day they f'n drafted him. They just didn't base their entire offensive around it like Miami did last year. Its like these guys don't even follow the damn team they're covering. As far as Jenkins goes, he could play both offense and defense by himself all game long and the Jets would win in a blowout. Next to "beast" in the dictionary is a picture of Kris Jenkins. The key word's there are "Dolphins success" with the wildcat. All those years you've been giving Smith the ball in a diresct snap type situation, how many TD's did he have? Exactly zero. Which explains why the Jets didn't continue with the formation. Miami has been able to, with the sheer greatness of Ronnie Brown, develop a very effective formation that puts points on the board. You are 100% correct the Jets have been running the so-called wild cat long before the Dolphags plagiarized them. The Jets did it to cover up the short comings of their weak armed QB. See above post in conjunction with the following. Yes, if Chad has trouble stretching the field lengthwise, why not stretch it from sideline to sideline? It works thereby allowing Chad to have his best year ever in his 8 year NFL career. And now the dol-fags do it with the same weak armed QB..Hey, Maybe Chad is calling the plays now Chad is not calling the plays, and it's spelled Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The key word's there are "Dolphins success" with the wildcat. All those years you've been giving Smith the ball in a diresct snap type situation, how many TD's did he have? Exactly zero. Which explains why the Jets didn't continue with the formation. Miami has been able to, with the sheer greatness of Ronnie Brown, develop a very effective formation that puts points on the board. See above post in conjunction with the following. Yes, if Chad has trouble stretching the field lengthwise, why not stretch it from sideline to sideline? It works thereby allowing Chad to have his best year ever in his 8 year NFL career. Chad is not calling the plays, and it's spelled Dolphins. No one's debating the success the Dolphins had using the Wildcat last year. You said the Jets are copying them, and that's manifestly not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Pretty sure Leon Washington scored a TD out of the wildcat in 2007 against...You guessed it, the Miami Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 No one's debating the success the Dolphins had using the Wildcat last year. You said the Jets are copying them, and that's manifestly not the case. Well, when the Jets spend half of their practice lining up in the single wing, when they never spent that much time on it in the past, then yes, they are copying our success with the wildcat. We showed them how to do it properly. Besides, wasn't everybody here calling it a "gimmick" offense full of "trick" plays last year? Where are all of those comments now that your team is spending a considerable portion of practice implementing the same plays into your offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Pretty sure Leon Washington scored a TD out of the wildcat in 2007 against...You guessed it, the Miami Dolphins. You could have lined Hellen Keller up in the single wing and scored a TD against us in 07'. Alas, I stand corrected, 2 years ago the Jets maybe scored a TD using the wildcat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Well, when the Jets spend half of their practice lining up in the single wing, when they never spent that much time on it in the past, then yes, they are coping our success with the wildcat. We showed them how to do it properly. Besides, wasn't everybody here calling it a "gimmick" offense full of "trick" plays last year? Where are all of those comments now that your team is spending a considerable portion of practice implementing the same plays into your offense? The strawmen keep on coming. The Wildcat is a gimmick offense, regardless of who's running it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The strawmen keep on coming. The Wildcat is a gimmick offense, regardless of who's running it. Ahahahah the strawman argument. That's so awesome that you said that. It's an inside joke for me. Thanks, you get rep for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Ahahahah the strawman argument. That's so awesome that you said that. It's an inside joke for me. Thanks, you get rep for that. Thank you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Thank you? Yes. I'll give you the background, I post alot in the POFO over at my local Dolphin site, and the people on the opposing side of me use the strawman argument against me all the time. It's just amusing to me that's all. Carry on with the bashing of my team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Yes. I'll give you the background, I post alot in the POFO over at my local Dolphin site, and the people on the opposing side of me use the strawman argument against me all the time. It's just amusing to me that's all. Carry on with the bashing of my team Heh...when used properly (as I always do, cough cough), it's a solid rebuttal...but for some reason, teh interwebz have made people think that any argument they disagree with is a strawman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Eric Smith is getting INTs left and right our QBs must be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 No one's debating the success the Dolphins had using the Wildcat last year. You said the Jets are copying them, and that's manifestly not the case. And its not just him, its these know-nothing dumbass beat writers. And CJ can try to justify it as much as possible, but the fact remains that the Jets were regularly running various direct snap plays with different players for years now. I don't care if the Dolphins were so awful on offense that they had to lean on it so much heavier than any other NFL team has in the past, they didn't create anything and nobody is "copying" them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Eric Smith is getting INTs left and right our QBs must be great That scares the crap out of me too. I really hope Ryan is right and the light has finally come on for Smith, but the fact is the guy has been a really bad and actually gotten worse in his first 3 years. If he's embarrassing our QBs, I don't want to know how they'll fair against real NFL DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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