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Jive-talking twin Transformers raise race issues

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By SANDY COHEN

AP Entertainment Writer

Posted: Wednesday, Jun. 24, 2009

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    In this film publicity image released by Paramount Pictures, twin robots are shown in a scene from, "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

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    In this film publicity image released by Paramount Pictures, Megan Fox, left, and Shia LaBeouf are shown in a scene from "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen."

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    In this film publicity image released by Paramount Pictures, autobots, Optimus Prime, left, and Ironhide are shown in a scene from, "Transformers:Revenge of the Fallen.

LOS ANGELES "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" introduces some 40 new mechanized characters of all shapes, sizes and even sexes - but it's a pair of jive-talking 'bots that critics are singling out as more than just harmless comic relief.

Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact Chevys, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth.

As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But the traits they're ascribed raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from "Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace," was criticized as a racial caricature.

Wall Street Journal film critic Joe Morgenstern described Binks in 1999 as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit," a reference to a black character from the 1920s and '30s that exploited negative stereotypes for comic effect. Extending that metaphor to the "Transformers" sequel was AP Movie Critic Christy Lemire, who calls Skids and Mudflap "Jar Jar Binks in car form."

And Manohla Dargis, film critic for The New York Times, takes it a step further, writing that the "Transformers" characters were given "conspicuously cartoonish, so-called black voices that indicate that minstrelsy remains as much in fashion in Hollywood as when, well, Jar Jar Binks was set loose by George Lucas."

Director Michael Bay insists that the bumbling 'bots are just good clean fun.

"We're just putting more personality in," Bay said. "I don't know if it's stereotypes - they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it."

TV actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids. Neither immediately responded to interview requests for this story.

Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters."

"I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them."

Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they followed Bay's lead in creating the twins. Still, the characters serve no real purpose in the story, and when the action gets serious, they disappear entirely, notes Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion.

"They don't really have any positive effect on the film," she said. "They only exist to talk in bad ebonics, beat each other up and talk about how stupid each other is."

Hollywood has a track record of using negative stereotypes of black characters for comic relief, said Todd Boyd, a professor of popular culture at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts, who has not seen the "Transformers" sequel.

"There's a history of people getting laughs at the expense of African-Americans and African-American culture," Boyd said. "These images are not completely divorced from history even though it's a new movie and even though they're robots and not humans."

American cinema also has a tendency to deal with race indirectly, said Allyson Nadia Field, an assistant professor of cinema and media studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.

"There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially."

If these characters weren't animated and instead played by real black actors, "then you might have to admit that it's racist," Robinson said. "But stick it into a robot's mouth, and it's just a robot, it's OK."

But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"

Bay brushes off any whiff of controversy.

"Listen, you're going to have your naysayers on anything," he said. "It's like is everything going to be melba toast? It takes all forms and shapes and sizes."

Now I dont know if this is going to end well. Typically these threads get locked due to the inability to debate a topic without personal attacks and political agendas.

So I saw the movie and was not bothered by the Twins characters. I think that people get too tied up in creating false labels for people. Is it really a black thing or is it a lack of education thing? I have seen people of all races and cultures speak a ghetto venacular. Everyone from White people to Indians. To automatically claim that behavior as a black thing and complain about it is taking ownership to that sterotype.

So those who saw the movie did you find that the twins were offensive. and if so why...

As a disclosure.. I am a 36 y.o Black man 1st generation caribbean heritage. I was born in Brooklyn, Grew up in East Flatbush. Went to school in East Flatbush and Bensonhurst (yeah I was chris from everyone hates chris lol) I now live in the south.

And I still think the best part of the movie was the JETS Sticker

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So what should have the robots done? Call each other the "n" word to make it more realistic?

Are these 3 statements not reflective of the inner city black community? If they were completely false then I can see the problem. But when a large segment of the population acts this way, it is not wrong to make humor out of it. If the black community really does hate seeing this stuff, clean up your act.

Question is it just the Black community or the community in general ?.. as I see it the obliteration of the english language is countrywide and spans all races. So we should all cleam up our speech and hold our kids and communities accountable.

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When was the last time someone white complained about the way a movie, song or book portrayed them?

Come on mick you know there were a bunch of white people complaining about the SOPRANOS

http://www.nj.com/sopranos/ledger/index.ssf?/sopranos/stories/111500anti.html

Marred by the mob

'The Sopranos' is feeling the heat from Italian-American activists

11/15/00

By Matt Zoller Seitz

The Star-Ledger

Italian-American anti-defamation activists detest HBO's top-rated, Emmy winning Mafia drama "The Sopranos," which they view as a blight on the image of their people.

But every cloud has a silver lining: In the two years since the show went on the air, it has done more to organize anti-defamation activists than any work of pop culture since "The Godfather" back in 1971.

"It roused the sleeping giant," says Bloomfield chiropractor and activist Emanuele "Manny" Alfano.

Though tens of millions of viewers

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