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POTW: We're Baaaaaaaaaaack... July/August 2009


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Topic: Weird Posting Issue

It;s ok, I took them to dinner after I told them their computer was teh suck and that Im probably never coming back. The good news is my two boys are still up their so I just cut my overhead by 20 % with your help, JN is teh awesome.

The Nomination: "LOL. Appropriate movie reference" Pragmatic Bus

Editor's Note: I think your weird posting issue is that the "e" and "h" keys have been switched. That, right there, is teh suck...

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Topic: The JetNation Caste System

JIF: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.

Thor: You're foolin' yourself! We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class...

JIF: Oh, there you go bringing class into it again.

Thor: Well, that's what it's all about! If only people would...

MAX: Please, please, good people, I am in haste. Who owns this site?

JIF: No one owns it.

MAX: Then who is your lord?

JIF: We don't have a lord.

THOR: I told you, we're an anarco-sydicalist commune. We take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week...

MAX: Yes...

THOR: ...but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting...

MAX: Yes I see...

THOR: ...by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs...

MAX: Be quiet!

THOR: ...but by a two thirds majority in the case of...

MAX: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

JIF: Order, eh? Who does he think he is?

The Nomination: "I had always hoped Seven of Nine, not Max, would lead our collective. Though, you gotta give it to the guy, he does look surprisingly good in her outfit." Borgoguy

Editor's Note: This nomination ruined two things - a perfectly good post and any ability to find 7 of 9 attractive ever again.

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Topic: Celebrity look alike thread

For what it's worth, my wife was reading this thread on the train last evening coming home from work. She could not believe how much you looked like Giannini. She also said you and your wife make a great couple.

The Nomination: "Congrats on 10,000 posts!" Lil Bit Special

Editor's Note: Quite the Milestone... I have nothing funny to say here... Who is Giannini?

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Topic: Four Weeks Until Training Camp!!!!

I'm starting to get excited...my son even has me watching Total Access-which I usually avoid. I like telling him about the great players and plays I've seen over the past 42 years of watching NFL football.

It's weird, I can see that commercial on the NFLN that shows Dwight Clark making "The Catch" and remember exactly where I was at that moment and who was in the room watching with me (my dad). My father and me saw a lot of great sporting events together-I hope someday to watch the Jets win another Super Bowl with MY son James so he can tell HIS sons where he was and how happy we all were together when it happened....all you young guys, all the true and great Jets fans here, like 124, Max, and all of you guys who have spent a LOT of dough over the years all DESERVE to see us win a SB-I hope we all get to share it together here-Go Jets

The Nomination: "Great post, SoFla." PS17

Editor's Note: How sweet... One day when I have kids, I'm going to tell them to get another hobby. F the Jets.

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Topic: RIP Steve McNair

So then, basically.. you are judging SM's wife by calling her a liar. In the infamous words of.. you.. who are you to judge others.... ;)

And the other 2 children? Weak argument.

I completely understand marriage. You don't need to explain it to me. A cheater is a cheater is a cheater. Whether the spouse knows or not, that doesn't make the action (of cheating) moral or right, regardless of circumstances that led to it. Usually, karma rears it's ugly head in some way. You can paint it any way you want if it makes you feel better.

lol. I'll bet. Not that I really care one way or another.

The Nomination: "You should know better than to mess with Verde. Uppity or not, that lady's got skills." Borgoguy

Editor's Note: Don't we all feel a little bit better after reading that?

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Topic: Going to see Obama on the 16th at Rutgers


sorry, couldn't help it. carry on with your regularly scheduled programming.

The Nomination: "Another real LOL moment for me provided skillfully by Arsis." Borgoguy

Editor's Note: I guess it worked... 124 was bailed out.

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Topic: Whitlock again tells it like it is

Thank you. It's common sense, really. Why pop out seeds if you're not gonna do everything within your control to be there for them, in all ways possible? I'm a teacher and it's almost a rarity when I have a student with a father who is still active in their life. It's also no coincidence that these kids have no direction or any idea how to be a young adult.

And anyone who disagrees with this mode of thought... PLEASE do us all a favor and don't reproduce.

The Nomination: "." Arsis

Editor's Note: First Verde's, now this... Who knew we'd learn so much about how to live... about how to love...

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Topic: Confessions of an Uppity Bitch.... My Story

Hello JetNation, my name is EY and I am an Uppity Bitch.

Feel free to address me as such as it is the cross I bear.

When expunged from the woom that was JI, I found myself in this new land. I knew I still possessed the skills to be the message board sensation that I was on that site. I knew I could put to use these skills developed in old country to make a success of myself here.

However, I have come to find that it is in fact lonely at the top, and while I still maintain my uppity bitchiness I've begun to feel different about it. A level of dissonance on the horizon, if you will.

I'd like to say that I am working out my issues, but it is indeed true... I do believe I am better than most of you. However, I have been making progress and there are currently 6 JetNation Posters who I do not feel that I am superior to.

Below is my list, with explanations.

1) Max - I'm playing in his playground, so clearly he is the greater. I'm hoping to start EYNation to eliminate him from this list, as it is embarrassing to have a man of such girth be my superior.

2) gg - A guiding light and moral compass, she's the jewish mother I ascribe to be someday.

3) Irish Jet - He beat me in the JetNation Single Elimination Bracket Challenge, so clearly he is better than me. Also, he's posting from Ireland, which until my arrival at JetNation, I was under the impression did not have the internet.

4) Doggin94it - He simply opperates on another level than the rest of us. Accomplishes in 6 days what most of us can only hope to do in 7.

5) Boroguy - He's just like me, only better. Similar temperment, similar sense of humor, similar I don't have a third but when written it looks better. He does have the age experience so perhaps I can chalk it up to that.

6) Sperm Edwards - His knowledge of both football and homosexuality far surpasses mine. I study him.

So there you have it. 6 Posters on JN who are better than me. If you feel that you were somehow left off this list, feel free to let me know about it, and I will explain to you why it was not in oversight via Hiaku.

Thank you for reading, my inferiors.

*Please accept my apologies if you thought this was going to be a review for the Disney/Pixar film: Up


The Nomination: "I will always stand and applaud a man for recognizing his inner "uppity bitchiness". You go, EY. (Phenomenal thread concept and execution.)" Borgoguy

Editor's Note: I'm a healer.

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Topic: Whitlock again tells it like it is

Seems like you didn't read the numerous stories written about this and used what little information you had and let it be colored by past traumatic experiences you have had. You seem to be mad at women and making the distinction based on those lines. You could just have easily said " Yeah, I know how the wife feels, a similar thing happened to me and it had a profound effect on my life." I'm sure things are harder for you and your Son now and I am truly sorry to hear that. If I could help I would. My point is that cheating isn't some harmless little victimless thing people here are making it out to be. It seems some people put infidelity on the same level of jaywalking when it ****s people's lives up. I do hope the best for you and your son and I pray that both you and the woman in this situation don't do that whole mind games pick a side stuff with your kid. I see that happen too many times and it really hurts the kids stuck in the middle.

The Nomination: "I can't imagine a rebuke for this post. Well said." Verde

Editor's Note: I'm going to be completely honest. I did not read this.

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Topic: Whitlock again tells it like it is

Wow, so many judgmental people here. I wonder what people would think if his wife wanted him out. I wonder what people would think if they had a mutual agreement to split up. I wonder what people would think if his wife was having affairs of her own. Nobody has even an inkling of the real story of why he and his wife were splitting. My suspicion is it had nothing to do with the girl that ended up killing him. Could there have been other infidelities in the past that he was guilty of that drove his wife over the edge, sure. I am certainly not saying McNair is NOT to blame. I'm just saying take a minute to think about the possibilities before labeling the guy as a bad father or a bad human being. Reality is you just don't know.

The only reason I chime in on this is because it hits very close to home with me. Without going into detail, and I am not going to continue to discuss this further after this post, I am going through a very rough situation that will eventually result in a divorce. Unfortunately my soon to be Ex had a preference for men besides me. Some of them I honest knew about and just chose to pretend it never happened. Others were so in my face I really couldn't. There were also many other reasons we didn't belong together, but that's the biggest. We decided mutually that our time was over. I had a boot in my back before I could even pack my things and was being asked to remove my name from my deed before I even left the house. I fought for mutual joint custody of my child, and for now we have settled at slightly less than that. I have moved on with my life and began dating. So has she. But for a couple disagreements on property we would be divorced already. In truth we really are not and probably will not be friends again, but we work together as parents. We have been able to drop any arguments when it comes to discussing our son and will continue to do so. With all that being said, there are still countless people ho look at me with some level of disgust because I have moved on. It's ironic because those same people are glad for her that she is dating and moved on. No matter what the situation, there is always a tendency to place the blame on the man. There are people who believe that the woman can have no fault in divorce. If she cheats, the man needs to work it out with her. If he does, he's a scumbag and should b thrown out the door.

I choose not to bother with alot of people that don't want to talk to me. I could easily tell them everything she did wrong and rub her name in the dirt, but I choose to take the high road. What matters to me now is my son and nothing else. If she were willing I would take full custody of him in a heartbeat. I wouldn't even blink. Unfortunately even though I have moved into my new home in a nice neighborhood, no court will ever rule for the father unless the mother is severely incapable of caring for the child. That's just the way it is. And in truth I also understand and recognize the importance of a mother's presence with a child as young as my son. I am grateful that I get to see him as often as I do, and miss him dearly when he's not with me. I will say this though, people that assume that parents should stick together for the child's sake are gravely mistaken. The worst thing you can possibly do to a child is fake it. Staying together in an unloving relationship only teaches the child how to relate with that and nothing more. If two parents can't love each other, then they need to split for the sake of that child. Children of any age are not stupid. You can't hide hatred or fake love in front of them. Every counselor will tell you that. What a child needs is two parents that love him unconditionally, and that show that love whenever they are around. They need two parents that are willing to be a unified parental unit, even if they are not a unified maried unit.

So, maybe McNair really was a scumbag. Maybe he was as awful a person as some here would like to label him. But maybe he wasn't. Maybe he was a loving father. Maybe there are things we just don't and won't ever know about him or the situation that don't tell the whole story. Maybe, just maybe, his wife was the cheating spouse running around on him.

The Nomination: "That was great Boozer." PS17

Editor's Note: Well, I didn't read arsis's response, so certainly I didn't read this either.

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Topic: Whitlock again tells it like it is

I'm of the opinion that you can judge a tree by the fruit it produces. While we do not know all the details surrounding McNair's time as a father, the things we DO know tell a story that ultimately cannot be spun as a positive. I can't imagine raising FOUR BOYS, but you're never going to convince me that you can be with a 20-year old mistress AND be a good father. It simply does not work that way.

He may have loved those kids and treated them kindly, but whether you agree or not, or whether he would have agreed or not, he was CHOOSING that 20-year old girl over them. The time he spent wining and dining a college-aged kid young enough to be his daughter was time away from his FOUR boys (I can't emphasize that enough, FOUR).

Finally, a few words for people who say "you shouldn't judge". First of all, we make judgments all the time as human beings. Its how we get through life. We judge whether we like a person or if we think he/she is dangerous. We judge whether or not we should be making the right or wrong decision. It is NECESSARY to judge each other's behavior and hold each other accountable for our actions. How else are we to learn from situations like McNair's?

Not only that, but by saying "you shouldn't judge", you are also making a judgment!

The Nomination: "lol. Awesome!" Verde

Editor's Note: The more you know... N-B-C.

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Topic: Offseason AFC predictions? (2009 Records & Standings)

I don't see what's so absurd about 5-11.

We have a rookie QB. A rookie QB with very little college experience.

It's funny how Ryan and Flacco come in and do well, then everyone suddenly forgets the previous 50 years happened.

ROOKIE QBS THAT START RIGHT AWAY GENERALLY BLOW. Particularly when they barely started in college.

The Nomination: "Word" T0mShane

Editor's Note: You two should get a room.

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Topic: The Man, The Legend Himself (Vernon Gholston) Speaks

Something tells me that the last thing we have to worry about is Gholston getting anywhere near any quarterbacks.

That said, I don't care what he says in some official site puff piece interview, let him prove he sucks on the field.

The Nomination: "lmao" Arsis

Editor's Note: Hey, he almost sacked Cutler one time last year.

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Topic: My two wishes at the moment

mehl, I miss you. And I agree with both of these wishes and I wish the same. I never liked Brett Favre the diva, then he liquored me up got me to liking him and he took advantage of me, then I woke up and hated him again.

The Nomination: "Y ou and a million other Jets fans" slowmoe57

Editor's Note: I didn't know Klecko73isGod is Brett Favre... See, I can do it too! Weeeeeee!

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