Matt39 42,378 #1 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) This just started floating around this morning. Found it on another site. Take it for what its worth. Probably not real...but its still fun to speculate. 1.Nomar Garciaparra 2.Manny Ramirez 3.Johnny Damon 4.Trot Nixon 5.David Ortiz 6.Shea Hillenbrand 7.Derek Lowe 8.Pedro Martinez 9.Brian Roberts 10.Jay Gibbons 11.Melvin Mora 12.Jerry Hairston 13.Jason Giambi 14.Alfonso Soriano 15.Raul Mondesi 16. Aaron Boone 17.Andy Pettitte 18.Jose Contreras 19.Roger Clemens 20.Carlos Delgado 21.Vernon Wells 22.Frank Catalanotto 23.Kenny Rogers 24.Magglio Ordonez 25.Sandy Alomar 26.Bartolo Colon 27.Brent Abernathy 28.Jose Lima 29.Milton Bradley 30.Casey Blake 31.Danys Baez 32.Craig Monroe 33.Dmitri Young 34.Alex Sanchez 35.Eric Chavez 36.Miguel Tejada 37.Eric Byrnes 38.Jose Guillen 39.Keith Foulke 40.Ricardo Rincon 41.Bret Boone 42.Mike Cameron 43.Randy Winn 44.Ryan Franklin 45.Freddy Garcia 46.Rafael Soriano 47.Scott Spiezio 48.Troy Glaus 49.Francisco Rodriguez 50.Ben Weber 51.Alex Rodriguez 52.Juan Gonzalez 53.Rafael Palmeiro 54.Carl Everett 55.Javy Lopez 56.Gary Sheffield 57.Mike Hampton 58.Ivan Rodriguez 59.Derrek Lee 60.Bobby Abreu 61.Terry Adams 62.Fernando Tatis 63.Livan Hernandez 64.Hector Almonte 65.Tony Armas 66.Dan Smith 67.Roberto Alomar 68.Cliff Floyd 69.Roger Cedeno 70.Jeromy Burnitz 71.Moises Alou 72.Sammy Sosa 73.Corey Patterson 74.Carlos Zambrano 75.Mark Prior 76.Kerry Wood 77.Matt Clement 78.Antonio Alfonseca 79.Juan Cruz 80.Aramis Ramirez 81.Craig Wilson 82.Kris Benson 83.Richie Sexson 84.Geoff Jenkins 85.Valerio de los Santos 86.Benito Santiago 87.Rich Aurilia 88.Barry Bonds 89.Andres Galarraga 90.Jason Schmidt 91.Felix Rodriguez 92.Jason Christiansen 93.Matt Herges 94.Paul Lo Duca 95.Shawn Green 96.Oliver Perez 97.Adrian Beltre 98.Eric Gagne 99.Guillermo Mota 100.Luis Gonzalez 101.Todd Helton 102.Ryan Klesko 103.Gary Matthews Edited June 30, 2009 by Matt39 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Gun Of Bavaria 208,672 #2 Posted June 30, 2009 1.Nomar Garciaparra 2.Manny Ramirez 3.Johnny Damon 4.Trot Nixon 5.David Ortiz 6.Shea Hillenbrand 7.Derek Lowe 8.Pedro Martinez 9.Brian Roberts 10.Jay Gibbons 11.Melvin Mora 12.Jerry Hairston 13.Jason Giambi 14.Alfonso Soriano 15.Raul Mondesi 16. Aaron Boone 17.Andy Pettitte 18.Jose Contreras 19.Roger Clemens 20.Carlos Delgado 21.Vernon Wells 22.Frank Catalanotto 23.Kenny Rogers 24.Magglio Ordonez 25.Sandy Alomar 26.Bartolo Colon 27.Brent Abernathy 28.Jose Lima 29.Milton Bradley 30.Casey Blake 31.Danys Baez 32.Craig Monroe 33.Dmitri Young 34.Alex Sanchez 35.Eric Chavez 36.Miguel Tejada 37.Eric Byrnes 38.Jose Guillen 39.Keith Foulke 40.Ricardo Rincon 41.Bret Boone 42.Mike Cameron 43.Randy Winn 44.Ryan Franklin 45.Freddy Garcia 46.Rafael Soriano 47.Scott Spiezio 48.Troy Glaus 49.Francisco Rodriguez 50.Ben Weber 51.Alex Rodriguez 52.Juan Gonzalez 53.Rafael Palmeiro 54.Carl Everett 55.Javy Lopez 56.Gary Sheffield 57.Mike Hampton 58.Ivan Rodriguez 59.Derrek Lee 60.Bobby Abreu 61.Terry Adams 62.Fernando Tatis 63.Livan Hernandez 64.Hector Almonte 65.Tony Armas 66.Dan Smith 67.Roberto Alomar 68.Cliff Floyd 69.Roger Cedeno 70.Jeromy Burnitz 71.Moises Alou 72.Sammy Sosa 73.Corey Patterson 74.Carlos Zambrano 75.Mark Prior 76.Kerry Wood 77.Matt Clement 78.Antonio Alfonseca 79.Juan Cruz 80.Aramis Ramirez 81.Craig Wilson 82.Kris Benson 83.Richie Sexson 84.Geoff Jenkins 85.Valerio de los Santos 86.Benito Santiago 87.Rich Aurilia 88.Barry Bonds 89.Andres Galarraga 90.Jason Schmidt 91.Felix Rodriguez 92.Jason Christiansen 93.Matt Herges 94.Paul Lo Duca 95.Shawn Green 96.Oliver Perez 97.Adrian Beltre 98.Eric Gagne 99.Guillermo Mota 100.Luis Gonzalez 101.Todd Helton 102.Ryan Klesko 103.Gary Matthews Leave it to the Tigers to get the guys taking PEDs who apparently can't convert it into better play. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor99 410,326 #3 Posted June 30, 2009 Whole lotta Sox on that list. Ugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,378 #4 Posted June 30, 2009 Whole lotta Sox on that list. Ugh. Shea Hillenbrand. You must be devastated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiLMiCKMANTLE 21,966 #5 Posted June 30, 2009 Pretty mucj everyone in the league has taken PEDs one time or another.. thats probably the reason i never got drafted i had all the skill just not the Steriods Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyHector 152,030 #6 Posted June 30, 2009 I saw this list on Rotoworld yesterday and it was posted by a guy who knows a guy who knows someone that is supposedly in the know... in other words its authenticity shouldn't be questioned and all the players listed should be flogged publicly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyHector 152,030 #7 Posted June 30, 2009 thats probably the reason i never got drafted i had all the skill just not the Steriods ... or another 6" in height. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haggis 14,693 #8 Posted June 30, 2009 I think this list originated from the Bronx. There are 15 past and present Sox players on that list. That's nearly 15% of the list. But I would not be shocked if it is true. Nothing in sports would shock me with regards to steroids and who juiced or is juicing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guido Monzino 10,967 #9 Posted June 30, 2009 I think this list originated from the Bronx. There are 15 past and present Sox players on that list. That's nearly 15% of the list. But I would not be shocked if it is true. Nothing in sports would shock me with regards to steroids and who juiced or is juicing. That would be different than the Mitchell Report how? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxman 538,379 #10 Posted June 30, 2009 Whole lotta Sox on that list. Ugh. Hurts doesn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbro22 95,172 #11 Posted June 30, 2009 Theres only one name in baseball that would ruin the game for me and its Derek Jeter. As long as he's not mentioned in this ****, I could care less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor99 410,326 #12 Posted June 30, 2009 Hurts doesn't it? Not really. I got over it pretty quickly. I'll live. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,583 #13 Posted June 30, 2009 Theres only one name in baseball that would ruin the game for me and its Derek Jeter. As long as he's not mentioned in this ****, I could care less. Doesn't mean he hasn't done them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vicious89x 121,413 #14 Posted June 30, 2009 If that list is true, it'd be pretty ugly for baseball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PS17 81,920 #15 Posted June 30, 2009 Theres only one name in baseball that would ruin the game for me and its Derek Jeter. As long as he's not mentioned in this ****, I could care less. +1 I would literally have no faith in anyone anymore. I would like baseball significantly less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Bit Special 168,184 #16 Posted June 30, 2009 if this list is fabricated, whoever did this list really found some obscure players to throw in there. Probably the only player I was surprised by was Shawn Green.. but looking at his stats and seeing a big drop off in hr's in 2003 does look a little suspicious. Still dont care. The damage has already been done. We are immune to this crap now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talisaynon 8,870 #17 Posted June 30, 2009 Theres only one name in baseball that would ruin the game for me and its Derek Jeter. As long as he's not mentioned in this ****, I could care less. Haha even as a Yankee fan I want to see that happen. I want to watch baseball feign shock, and then not care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vicious89x 121,413 #18 Posted June 30, 2009 If it is true, I guess Pujols is clear for now though right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyHector 152,030 #19 Posted June 30, 2009 Hurts doesn't it? Are we talking about the inclusion of Red Sox players on the list, or the latest rendezvous between you and Thor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Bit Special 168,184 #20 Posted June 30, 2009 If it is true, I guess Pujols is clear for now though right? he might have been one of the smart players who quit before testing began.... we'll never know and having a witch hunt for something 6 years ago is foolish. Im just glad the Sox players who i always suspected are on the list.. just wondering where Varitek is.... Im all for shame and ridicule for players now getting caught. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vicious89x 121,413 #21 Posted June 30, 2009 he might have been one of the smart players who quit before testing began.... we'll never know and having a witch hunt for something 6 years ago is foolish. Im just glad the Sox players who i always suspected are on the list.. just wondering where Varitek is.... Im all for shame and ridicule for players now getting caught. I guess to me it's just sad. It's not even "outrage" anymore. It happened. I just hope it something that will die and go away because like you said, it'd be pretty dumb to get caught now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rillo 52,305 #22 Posted June 30, 2009 Theres only one name in baseball that would ruin the game for me and its Derek Jeter. As long as he's not mentioned in this ****, I could care less. Amen... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Bit Special 168,184 #23 Posted June 30, 2009 I guess to me it's just sad. It's not even "outrage" anymore. It happened. I just hope it something that will die and go away because like you said, it'd be pretty dumb to get caught now. unfortunately it wont die. Especially now we have a list of players that need to come out and say something about this list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenranger 13,649 #24 Posted June 30, 2009 I'm surprised someone like Adam Dunn or C.C isn't on the list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arsis 16,841 #25 Posted June 30, 2009 I'm surprised someone like Adam Dunn or C.C isn't on the list Yeah and David Wells. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garb 164,364 #26 Posted June 30, 2009 Although he made his way through the Domican league - which has a history of steriod use - I still have a hard time beleiving that Pedro Martinez was juicing but Veritek was not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KudosForND 2,255 #27 Posted June 30, 2009 If Bonds was really on it, it would be released already. and i though Pedro was one of the clean if its true that he did it will hurt alot of people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KudosForND 2,255 #28 Posted June 30, 2009 This is messed up because if this is false(which I bet it is) and the players that didnt do it are linked to steroids they will always have that speculation. I cant believe Pedro,Alfonso Soriano, and Brian Roberts. Why are most of them all known i bet the real list has a lot of people that weren't that good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyHector 152,030 #29 Posted June 30, 2009 I cant believe Pedro,Alfonso Soriano, and Brian Roberts. Brian Roberts was already named in the Mitchell Report and admitted using, though he said it was only "once or twice", back in 2003. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbro22 95,172 #30 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Although he made his way through the Domican league - which has a history of steriod use - I still have a hard time beleiving that Pedro Martinez was juicing but Veritek was not? Pedro was more guilty then anyone in my eyes. I thought everyone assumed it from him anyways? EDIT: Okay maybe not more guilty then anyone, but to be as dominate as he was for as long as he was. Edited June 30, 2009 by Jbro22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KudosForND 2,255 #31 Posted June 30, 2009 Brian Roberts was already named in the Mitchell Report and admitted using, though he said it was only "once or twice", back in 2003. I didnt know that.. I feel like an idiot now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,583 #32 Posted June 30, 2009 Pedro was more guilty then anyone in my eyes. I thought everyone assumed it from him anyways? EDIT: Okay maybe not more guilty then anyone, but to be as dominate as he was for as long as he was. Wouldn't that make Rivera suspect then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiLMiCKMANTLE 21,966 #33 Posted June 30, 2009 ... or another 6" in height. im taller and faster than Ekstein lol and the list is real.. ive been around tons of Pro ball players and they all have known about this for loooooong time.. just kept it very hush hush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiLMiCKMANTLE 21,966 #34 Posted June 30, 2009 Wouldn't that make Rivera suspect then? idk about that... Rivera doesnt see the amount of innings at once like Pedro does as a starting pitcher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,583 #35 Posted June 30, 2009 just kept it very hush hush Actually, not too well. They can partly blame their union. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites