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Don't sleep on Chansi Stuckey: Look for this kid to breakout as our #2 WR here in 09.


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Remember in 2006, when we had no idea who would be our #2 WR? Well, Cotchery broke onto the scene and became our #2 WR over night. Jerricho Cotchery never really had any type of playing time or experience before 2006, and he did a pretty damn good job opposite of Coles with Baker as our TE with NO backfield talent with Barlow and Blaylock as our 1-2 punch.

Here in 2009...Chansi Stuckey already has alot of playing time and experience thanks to 2008. Last year as a 2nd year player, 1st year starter...Stuckey showed us all that he has alot of talent, alot of promise and alot of potential as our slot WR with 32 catches, 359 yards with 3 TD's. Stuckey is about the same size as Cotchery @ 6'0, 200 pounds. He's also alot faster and quicker than Cotchery. Here in 09, Stuckey will be playing opposite of Cotchery, Dustin Keller will be roaming the middle of the field as our pass catching TE talent, and we still have Jones-Leon as our 1-2 punch coming out of the backfield.

Just look @ some of these highlights of Stuckey as a WR in college...This kid is a real talent and it's just sad how Jet fans are sleeping all over this type of talent all because he's only started one year. Look for him to have a breakout type of season as our #2 WR opposite of a great possession WR in Cotchery who can do more than just "Move the chains". Pay close attention to this kids hands, speed, quickness and over talent when watching this youtube clip.

One more thing- In 2006, Tim Dwight was our starting slot WR for 9 full games, he only had 16 catches for 112 yards with 0 TD's. Thats an average of 1.7 catch along with 12 yards per game. We had ZERO production from our slot WR in 2006, zero. I have a feeling David Clowney cant do "any worse" than that. We still made the playoffs with far less overal talent on the O-Side of the ball, with two rookies starting on the O-Line along with the worst starting RT in Franchise histroy Anthony "freaking" Clement.

Don't sleep on our WR's just because "ESPN" does it, especially not Chansi Stuckey...With a year under his belt, he's ready for a breakout year here in 2009-Watch.

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Why are you so annoying?

Whats annoying? The fact that the Jets made the playoffs in 2006 with two rookies on the O-Line? Or the fact that the Jets have those same players in Brick and Mangold as 4th year starters here in 2009?

Whats annoying? The fact that the Jets made the playoffs in 2006 with a rookie head coach in Mangini along with a 1st year OC in Marty's boy? Or the fact that the Jets have a rookie coach in Rex Ryan along with an OC who will be calling plays here in 09 as a 4th year OC?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had a JAG of a pass catching TE in Baker? Or the fact that the Jets have an elite pass catching talent in Dustin Keller here in 2009?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had two scrubs as a 1-2 punch in 2006 with Barlow and Blaylock? Or the fact that the Jets have a solid 1-2 punch with Jones (Led the AFC in rushing yards last year) along with Leon Washington (An X-Factor) along with a power back in Greene that we havn't had in years?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had Kendall and "Clement" on the O-Line in 2006? Or the fact that we now have Faneca and Woody?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had Dyson as our #1 CB, Vilma and Barton as our 1-2 Punch at the MLB position with Hobson/Thomas as our OLB's, with Robertson as our 3-4 "NT" in 2006? Or the fact that the Jets have Revis as our #1 CB, Harris and Scott as our 1-2 punch at the MLB position, with Pace and Gholston/Thomas rushing from the outside as our OLB, WITH Kris Jenkins (A top 5 DT/NT) as our 3-4 NT?

Whats so annoying? The fact that Cotchery was a 1st year starter in 2006 as our #2 WR? Or the fact that Chansi Stuckey will be playing as a 2nd year starter here in 2009 as our #2 WR?

Whats so annoying? The fact that I made it known that we had ZERO production from our slot WR in 2006? Or the fact that I made it known that David Clowney couldn't possibly put up numbers as bad as Dwight did in 2006?

Whats really so annoying? The fact that you feel the Jets cant win anymore than 7-8 games? Or the fact that I feel we have a playoff type of team here in 2009 because I see the OVERALL talent that we have on this team, while you don't?

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Whats annoying? The fact that the Jets made the playoffs in 2006 with two rookies on the O-Line? Or the fact that the Jets have those same players in Brick and Mangold as 4th year starters here in 2009?

Whats annoying? The fact that the Jets made the playoffs in 2006 with a rookie head coach in Mangini along with a 1st year OC in Marty's boy? Or the fact that the Jets have a rookie coach in Rex Ryan along with an OC who will be calling plays here in 09 as a 4th year OC?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had a JAG of a pass catching TE in Baker? Or the fact that the Jets have an elite pass catching talent in Dustin Keller here in 2009?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had two scrubs as a 1-2 punch in 2006 with Barlow and Blaylock? Or the fact that the Jets have a solid 1-2 punch with Jones (Led the AFC in rushing yards last year) along with Leon Washington (An X-Factor) along with a power back in Greene that we havn't had in years?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had Kendall and "Clement" on the O-Line in 2006? Or the fact that we now have Faneca and Woody?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had Dyson as our #1 CB, Vilma and Barton as our 1-2 Punch at the MLB position with Hobson/Thomas as our OLB's, with Robertson as our 3-4 "NT" in 2006? Or the fact that the Jets have Revis as our #1 CB, Harris and Scott as our 1-2 punch at the MLB position, with Pace and Gholston/Thomas rushing from the outside as our OLB, WITH Kris Jenkins (A top 5 DT/NT) as our 3-4 NT?

Whats so annoying? The fact that Cotchery was a 1st year starter in 2006 as our #2 WR? Or the fact that Chansi Stuckey will be playing as a 2nd year starter here in 2009 as our #2 WR?

Whats so annoying? The fact that I made it known that we had ZERO production from our slot WR in 2006? Or the fact that I made it known that David Clowney couldn't possibly put up numbers as bad as Dwight did in 2006?

Whats really so annoying? The fact that you feel the Jets cant win anymore than 7-8 games? Or the fact that I feel we have a playoff type of team here in 2009 because I see the OVERALL talent that we have on this team, while you don't?

Hes got you there Ghost...

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Yeah, but there in 08 he started off strong then faded away. What makes you think things will be different here on 09?

60.9

60.8

61.4

48.7

45.1

Those were the QB raitings that Favre put up during the last 5 weeks of the year... 9 INT's with only 2 TD's during those 5 games? How the heck could Stuckey put up solid numbers towards the end of the year, how?

Favre had a QB raiting of 55.38 during the last 5 games of the year, do you understand how bad that really is? Put it this way bro... Ryan Leaf "The biggest bust of all time" had a career QB raiting of 50.0.... Thats how BAD Favre played as a 39 year old, old man.

Coles-Cotchery-Keller were all options before Chansi Stuckey and thats why he never could put up numbers during the end of the season...This year, he could be our 2nd or 3rd option, and the numbers will come-This kid has talent man.

The QB play of Favre killed the Defense and hurt this Offense. An aging Favre took an 8-3 team and turned them into a 9-7 team that missed the playoffs, all because he wouldn't admit he was hurt...Instead, he hurt the team for the "record books".

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Ill tell you who I am sleeping/not sleeping on

Chansi Stuckey: Daydreaming-- I think we know what we got there and its a very poor mans Wes Welker.

Brad Smith: Sleeping-- Needs to prove alot because right now hes about as good a #4 receiver you can have.

David Clowney: Comatose-- I used to like this guy until he got twitter and now I just think hes a loser/pacman jones without the talent wanna-be

Wallace Wright: NOT SLEEPING-- Gonna be a stud. book it.

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Whats annoying?

I would say you starting every single point there with some form of "What's so annoying?".

Obviously guys on this team are talented, they're NFL players. If they didn't have some level of talent they wouldn't be playing in the NFL. Even guys who will never make an impact in the league look good on youtube highlight clips because it's a HIGHLIGHT clip. Not a clip of drops and tackles for losses and corners getting burned for touchdowns and defensive ends getting pancaked or losing the edge.

It's great to be optimistic, and the Jets can be a playoff caliber team if things break right. But you're talking about a lot of things breaking right. The defense coming together. Jenkins staying healthy. Good play at the #2 CB spot. A consistent pass rush. Bart Scott living up to his contract. The offensive line staying intact. Production from inexperienced receivers at the 2-4 slots, along with production from a #1 WR who is surrounded by unproven players in the other spots and will receive mugh more attention than he would have otherwise. Keller making a step forward and being a consistent target for whoever the relatively inexperienced QB that ends up starting is. Strong quarterback play from whoever is taking the snaps.

Not all of those things have to happen, but you're talking about a lot of 50/50 propositions. Particularly with a team that did not have many injuries last year, when things usually return to the average the next season. This team absolutely CAN make the playoffs, I don't think anyone is questioning that. But most Jets fans are going to assume that given more than a couple things are not going to go ideally, and if that is the case then this team will in all likelihood struggle and fall towards the middle of the pack this season or be a little worse than that. I'd love for that not to happen and for everything to go perfectly, as I'm sure everyone here would, but it's just not really realistic.

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I can barely make it through one of your posts. You are highly annoying but you make some valid points. Keep it up :)

BTW I think Chansi is poised for a huge year as well. Clowney,--not so much.

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I can barely make it through one of your posts. You are highly annoying but you make some valid points. Keep it up :)

BTW I think Chansi is poised for a huge year as well. Clowney,--not so much.

Thats for the insult-compliment at the same time :D It's all good DarkLady

And don't worry...I won't be coming up with any more threads for a while, I'm out thoughts that hasn't already been talked about

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Just ignore him then. :)

Also Tl;DR Perhaps you should think about making your point in a more concise and succinct fashion.

Just the way he thinks is stupid. He gets these meaningless stats and trys to prove something.

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Remember in 2006, when we had no idea who would be our #2 WR? Well, Cotchery broke onto the scene and became our #2 WR over night. Jerricho Cotchery never really had any type of playing time or experience before 2006, and he did a pretty damn good job opposite of Coles with Baker as our TE with NO backfield talent with Barlow and Blaylock as our 1-2 punch.

Here in 2009...Chansi Stuckey already has alot of playing time and experience thanks to 2008. Last year as a 2nd year player, 1st year starter...Stuckey showed us all that he has alot of talent, alot of promise and alot of potential as our slot WR with 32 catches, 359 yards with 3 TD's. Stuckey is about the same size as Cotchery @ 6'0, 200 pounds. He's also alot faster and quicker than Cotchery. Here in 09, Stuckey will be playing opposite of Cotchery, Dustin Keller will be roaming the middle of the field as our pass catching TE talent, and we still have Jones-Leon as our 1-2 punch coming out of the backfield.

Just look @ some of these highlights of Stuckey as a WR in college...This kid is a real talent and it's just sad how Jet fans are sleeping all over this type of talent all because he's only started one year. Look for him to have a breakout type of season as our #2 WR opposite of a great possession WR in Cotchery who can do more than just "Move the chains". Pay close attention to this kids hands, speed, quickness and over talent when watching this youtube clip.

One more thing- In 2006, Tim Dwight was our starting slot WR for 9 full games, he only had 16 catches for 112 yards with 0 TD's. Thats an average of 1.7 catch along with 12 yards per game. We had ZERO production from our slot WR in 2006, zero. I have a feeling David Clowney cant do "any worse" than that. We still made the playoffs with far less overal talent on the O-Side of the ball, with two rookies starting on the O-Line along with the worst starting RT in Franchise histroy Anthony "freaking" Clement.

Don't sleep on our WR's just because "ESPN" does it, especially not Chansi Stuckey...With a year under his belt, he's ready for a breakout year here in 2009-Watch.

I believe you. No one wants to be the odd man out and recognize talent in its early stages. They want to take all the credit AFTER the superbowl win. Im with you my dude. I think this year is going to shocking one and we're going to really set a precident. Marino went to the superbowl his rookie year, why cant sanchez? Cotch made believers when he stepped in and did his thing, why not Stuckey and Clowney.

P.S. Shonn Greene is a f'ing beast!

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I'm geared for Stuckey to really have a great year, and will be pulling hard for him to be a compliment for Cotch. Over the past few months I've grown to being an advocate to bringing a veteran WR so that we can bolster our depth (Marvin Harrison, Tory Holt or trading for Boldin) but I'm waiting patiently to see what the kids got. I have enough faith in this coaching staff to evaluate the talent they have to make the call that they don't need to bring in another guy for the #2 WR spot and pay up the a$$ for it. Let the kids play and we can see what we really have on our team.

I'm not gonna have green goggles on and say that Stuckey's gonna be a 1000+ yard reciever and a total beast, but I wouldn't be disappointed if he had 600-700 yards recieving with a few scores. Personally, I think Keller will be the most used passing threat on O and he'll statistically will be the best on our team.

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Or the fact that I made it known that David Clowney couldn't possibly put up numbers as bad as Dwight did in 2006?

How do you know this?

David Clowney had 1 RECEPTION last season and a heck of a Preseason Game against UPS Truck Drivers.

He's so amazing!

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How do you know this?

David Clowney had 1 RECEPTION last season and a heck of a Preseason Game against UPS Truck Drivers.

He's so amazing!

But he's on the Jets so he has to be the next Jerry Rice, we don't need to bring in FA WR to help out the team we have a rookie QB and HC, we're headed to the SB, we're the Jets everyone and this team is the next G.O.A.T..

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ahem......

from a KentuckyJet fwd...

By Ronnie Shumake

So everybody wants one of the wideout divas in the league. Burress, Edwards, Jones and Marshall are the common names thrown around, some have even thrown Harrison out there. While I like the thought of adding a proven big threat reciever, I want to get one who doesn't shoot himself, drop the ball, do coke or hit women. So those guys are all up a river with a boat with no paddle. I suppose for the right price, I wouldn't mind Edwards or Harrison if you held a gun to my...nevermind.

Anyhow, I really like the things I am hearing and seeing from Chanci Stuckey. Here is a guy who always seemed to make plays last year. While Favre got the credit, he made a riduclous catch in week 1 to help fry the fish in Miami. The guy got separation time and time again last year in the slot. This year he seems hell bent on getting the job opposite Jerricho Cotchery. I know a lot of folks are really grumbling about the lack of "proven" talent and depth at wideout, but wasn't Cotchery himself unproven a couple of years back. When you really think of it, who was the last receiver who really came straight out of college highly touted and really made an immediate impact and name for himself?

Stuckey started his college career as a quarterback so it really helped with his picking up pre-snap reads and blitzes last year and so far this year in workouts. He is learning from Henry Ellard, the new Jet's receiver coach. I also hear he is going to work out with Terance Mathis for some extra credit homework assignments before training camp starts. This kid is like a sponge and he is finding the best water possible.

Now I recall Mathis when he was with the Jets. I saw promise there but he wasn't utilized properly in the system (sounds familiar?) as a receiver. He left as an unrestricted free agent and went on to AVERAGE three times his best yearly total up here (28 catches) down there per year (77 catches). His first year there, he caught 111 balls for over 1300 yards! This guy constantly made toast out of DB's and was always one of the top options for the QB's Jeff George and Chris Chandler down there. He actually finished his career as THE leading receiver in three categories in Atlanta Falcons history with 573 receptions, 7349 yards and 57 touchdowns from 1994-2001.

Let's look at the big picture here. Stuckey is going to work with the Falcons' ALL TIME leading receiver, outside of training camp on his own time and dime. Then he will come back to camp and have one of the best route runners in the history of the game, who's third all time in yardage, Henry Ellard working with him all year as his coach.

Now, maybe I am missing something, but the last time I checked we are talking about trying to "upgrade" over a guy who seriously studies his craft and already has a year in this system. The options are a guy who was late for his own court case for shooting HIMSELF in his leg (butterfingers), a guy who has hands of stone when it matters (lardfingers), a guy who got caught with more blow than the 86 Mets (blowfingers), a guy who hits his women (weak pimp hand) and all with pretty high price tags in cash and/or future draft picks, as well as quite possibly team PR and even more importantly chemistry.

You heard it here first. Don't sleep on Stuckey. I can see big things popping for him.

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How do you know this?

David Clowney had 1 RECEPTION last season and a heck of a Preseason Game against UPS Truck Drivers.

He's so amazing!

It doesn't matter what I know about Clowney, or what I don't know about Clowney because the fact of the matter is this...

In 2006, we made the playoffs with ZERO production from the slot WR position, I repeat...ZERO production from Tim Dwight and Brad Smith as our two slot WR's.

I can bet my bottom dollar that David Clowney (Or whoever plays the slot WR position) will put up better #'s here in 2009, than what Dwight/Smith did in 2006.

Also, since you enjoy calling out my each and every positive thought, we could also put up a sig bet on Catches, yards and TD's and when it's all said and done...I bet I win the SIG bet.

In 2006, Tim Dwight played in 9 games- 16 catches, 112 yards, 0 TD's.

In 2006, Brad Smith played in 16 games, 9 catches, 61 yards, 0 TD's.

That was an average of 1.5 catches per game, an average of 10 yards per game with an average of 0.00 TD's per game.

Like I said...I can BET my bottom dollar that David Clowney put up better numbers out of the slot WR position here in 2009, that what Dwight/Smith did as our slot WR's back in 2006. Like I was saying...You cant do much worse than what those two did back in 2006, when we made the playoffs.

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Last year, as a 1st year starter...

Stuckey put up 32 catches, 359 yards with 3 TD's on the year.

In 2002 (Santana Moss' 2nd year in the league, 1st year as a starter) Santana Moss put up 30 catcches, 433 yards with 4 TD's on the year.

Then...In 2003 (His 3rd year in the league, 2nd year as a full time starter) Santana Moss put up 74 catches, 1105 yards with 10 TD's on the year...

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In 2000...Laveranues Coles was a rookie, starting for the 1st time ever on the NFL level, he put up 22 catches, 370 yards with only 1 TD.

In 2001...Laveranues Coles was a 2nd year player, 2nd year starter on the NFL level and look @ the production difference... 59 catches, 868 yards with 14 TD's.

I can go on and on...I can use another 100 different WR examples if I wanted to, but I'm sure you all get the point. I only decided to go with previous Jet WR's, you know...The ones that I actually seen go through learning curves as a Jets fan.

It's called a LEARNING CURVE, thats something I actually know and understand as a sports fan... Like I've been saying...Don't sleep on Chansi Stuckey because he showed us ALL alot of talent, hope and potential last year as a 1st year starter and here in 2009...He WILL be "that much better" just off of the playing time and experience he earned as a 1st year starter in 2008.

You think most of these talented WR's just came in and started to simply dominate NFL CB's from day one? Hell no- And if you think they have...You've been dead wrong over the years. It's called a "Learning Curve".

Cotchery as our #1 WR-I'm confident.

Stuckey as our #2 WR- I'm excited.

Clowney as our slot WR- Cant do any worse than our production from 2006.

Keller as our elite pass catching TE= Pumped up.

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I believe you. No one wants to be the odd man out and recognize talent in its early stages. They want to take all the credit AFTER the superbowl win. Im with you my dude. I think this year is going to shocking one and we're going to really set a precident. Marino went to the superbowl his rookie year, why cant sanchez? Cotch made believers when he stepped in and did his thing, why not Stuckey and Clowney.

P.S. Shonn Greene is a f'ing beast!

Is it so hard around here to check your facts before posting? I mean, we all obviously have 'net access. Marino had 25 starts heading into the 1984 playoffs, which means he started nine games as a rookie, which means he, nor any rookie QB, has never started and took his team to the SB.

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How big of a loser is this guy? He pretends he's a rapper. He realistically thinks this team is going to go 12-4 with an unproven QB and head coach.

Unreal. And you guys ask what I hate this guy?

+10000... Not to mention he also has a tryout for pro hoops in Bosnia or Chechnya or Turkmenistan or some where in Asia Minor. Sheesh :rolleyes:

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Is it so hard around here to check your facts before posting? I mean, we all obviously have 'net access. Marino had 25 starts heading into the 1984 playoffs, which means he started nine games as a rookie, which means he, nor any rookie QB, has never started and took his team to the SB.

No, it is not. I was wrong....

My point still remains though. If we get the defense that we are expecting and this NFL ready QB is legit then it wont matter that I was wrong about a Dolphin, it'll matter that I was right about a Jet.

Thanks for the correction.

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No, it is not. I was wrong....

My point still remains though. If we get the defense that we are expecting and this NFL ready QB is legit then it wont matter that I was wrong about a Dolphin, it'll matter that I was right about a Jet.

Thanks for the correction.

Anytime, and I'm real sorry if I came off snarky at the beginning of my reply. I had some venom in my head for my post to Bleed4TheGreen, and I allowed it to spill over in my earlier post.

Cheers? :cheers:

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Whats annoying? The fact that the Jets made the playoffs in 2006 with two rookies on the O-Line? Or the fact that the Jets have those same players in Brick and Mangold as 4th year starters here in 2009?

Whats annoying? The fact that the Jets made the playoffs in 2006 with a rookie head coach in Mangini along with a 1st year OC in Marty's boy? Or the fact that the Jets have a rookie coach in Rex Ryan along with an OC who will be calling plays here in 09 as a 4th year OC?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had a JAG of a pass catching TE in Baker? Or the fact that the Jets have an elite pass catching talent in Dustin Keller here in 2009?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had two scrubs as a 1-2 punch in 2006 with Barlow and Blaylock? Or the fact that the Jets have a solid 1-2 punch with Jones (Led the AFC in rushing yards last year) along with Leon Washington (An X-Factor) along with a power back in Greene that we havn't had in years?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had Kendall and "Clement" on the O-Line in 2006? Or the fact that we now have Faneca and Woody?

Whats so annoying? The fact that the Jets had Dyson as our #1 CB, Vilma and Barton as our 1-2 Punch at the MLB position with Hobson/Thomas as our OLB's, with Robertson as our 3-4 "NT" in 2006? Or the fact that the Jets have Revis as our #1 CB, Harris and Scott as our 1-2 punch at the MLB position, with Pace and Gholston/Thomas rushing from the outside as our OLB, WITH Kris Jenkins (A top 5 DT/NT) as our 3-4 NT?

Whats so annoying? The fact that Cotchery was a 1st year starter in 2006 as our #2 WR? Or the fact that Chansi Stuckey will be playing as a 2nd year starter here in 2009 as our #2 WR?

Whats so annoying? The fact that I made it known that we had ZERO production from our slot WR in 2006? Or the fact that I made it known that David Clowney couldn't possibly put up numbers as bad as Dwight did in 2006?

Whats really so annoying? The fact that you feel the Jets cant win anymore than 7-8 games? Or the fact that I feel we have a playoff type of team here in 2009 because I see the OVERALL talent that we have on this team, while you don't?

What's so annoying is that you've drank so much ****ing green Kool-Aid that you think the 2009 Jets are the second coming of the ****ing 72 Dolphins.

I hope you get unbanned after the season so you can share your thoughts on how the 6-10 Jets are Super Bowl bound in 2010.

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