Can the Jets run the wildcat? Better than the Dolphins?

[BroadwayJ667]

First they would need to commit their offense to it. The Jets have the personnel to run it effectively as it would seem. Three competent running backs, receivers that are effective blockers, and an athletic offensive line.

The often criticized Brad Smith is integral part to the Jets running the wildcat. He ran it as well as anyone while at Missouri. And has run it well the few times the Jets have used the formation over the past 3 years. Brad can throw the ball, how well remains to be seen, so that could add a dimension to the package should the Jets commit to it.

Leon washington could thrive in this package. In the game against New England a couple of years ago he broke a run for 50+ yards from a similar formation. Leon has the quickness and speed to make the runs to the edge work.

Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene. The two cement trucks. Thomas has shown he has the burst to get though the line and the vision to find holes in the second level, provided the blocking is good. Shonn is a straight downhill runner and I imagine the results from spreading out a defense via the WC would be to his benefit.

The O-line. The Jets are being hailed by some as the best line in football. Whether that is true remains to be seen. But they are athletic enough, and now have some synergy to know where the other memebers are going to be. A declining but still effective Faneca could be an asset to the WC because of his pulling abilities. Brandon Moore is more effective as a run blocker and usually causes trouble when he is able to get to linebackers. Ferguson and Mangold are just now reaching their prime and have each improved every year. Woody proved to be a pleasant surprise for a first time RT.

Brian Schottenhiemer. His first year with the Jets he seemed like an innovative and think outside the box kind of OC. Will he return to that kind of OC, now that he may have HC opportunities in the future or that his job may be on the line? Brian is being granted the creative freedom by Rex Ryan. Rex has stated he wants an all-weather offense. could the WC be a part of that term? time will tell.

Wheter the Jets will run it is unknown. The NFL is a copycat league, seeing that the Jets have the personnel to run it, it only seems logical that they will attempt to run it.

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At the Minicamps, which I attended 2 of the 3 days, the Jets on the 2nd day had a portion of practice specifically for the Wildcat. It was 10-15 minutes of ALL Wildcat, using both Leon Washington and Brad Smith "behind center" in the Shotgun, but they mostly used Washington.

Signs of things to come or just to prepare against other teams? I think a little bit of both.

[Bleed4TheGreen]

Well, the Dolphins were the best @ it last year...And now they have Pat White as the man who will be their QB with the Wild Cat with Williams and Brown as their split backs...I'm not sure the Jets can match that.

Smith-Leon-Clowney could be worth a shot, but I'm not sure.

[Defense]

Well, the Dolphins were the best @ it last year...And now they have Pat White as the man who will be their QB with the Wild Cat with Williams and Brown as their split backs...I'm not sure the Jets can match that.

Smith-Leon-Clowney could be worth a shot, but I'm not sure.

Well without stats how would you know?

BTW, Awesome post on JI, lmao, you really are a looney tune.

I think it has come to a point where it is not even fun anymore to play with ya because there is something seriously wrong with you.

[InstantClassic]

Well without stats how would you know?

BTW, Awesome post on JI, lmao, you really are a looney tune.

I think it has come to a point where it is not even fun anymore to play with ya because there is something seriously wrong with you.

The majority of your posts have been geared towards attacking others..I can see you're going to last long.

[Defense]

The majority of your posts have been geared towards attacking others..I can see you're going to last long.

I have not attacked anyone but DWC buddy.

It's hard to contribute to this board when he spams every thread with his repeated bologna.

Shocked he is still not banned, I guess the third time is a charm here.

[Matt39]

Dude, lay off the guy. I dont know the history and yeah his posts are a bit long winded...but he's posting about football.

I dont see what's the issue here. Considering the non sports forum seems to get the most attention/drama these days. If I wanted that, I'd go to the E! forums.

[Larz]

the jets were using "gadget plays" like direct snaps pre- wildcat, so the answer is they were doing it before that wildcat became a fad

will they feature it ?

my guess is if Leon gets a really big deal, they may very well use him in a way similar to the WC

[Matt39]

The Wildcat is here to stay. Teams struggled with defending it last season...

[Bleed4TheGreen]

Dude, lay off the guy. I dont know the history and yeah his posts are a bit long winded...but he's posting about football.

I dont see what's the issue here. Considering the non sports forum seems to get the most attention/drama these days. If I wanted that, I'd go to the E! forums.

You know whats sad? He's really sad? He's also "AWAG" and he does the same thing with his other screen name. Look under his screen name...You see how it says "I love my Gammy"? Thats evil. He would also make fun of my passed away grandmother on JI with comments such as "His DEAD Gammy" which is simply evil.

It's ok...Just like I made a promise to myself that I would never reply to a post of his under his "AGAW" screen name...I'm going to make a promise to myself to never respond to another post from this loser again.

I'm done with all of this...He's been doing this stuff for over a year now, I'm done giving him the attention he's dying for because its obvious what he's up to...Starting trouble (Like always). But this time...I wont fight back and forth with him while ruining a message board, I'm done with him.

[Bleed4TheGreen]

the jets were using "gadget plays" like direct snaps pre- wildcat, so the answer is they were doing it before that wildcat became a fad

will they feature it ?

my guess is if Leon gets a really big deal, they may very well use him in a way similar to the WC

Thats a good point man...I remember in 2006, Marty's boy was coming up with all types of plays...Including a wildcat type of formation with Brad Smith as our QB...I just hate when he try to be fancy 3-4 times a game...1 time is enough.

[Matt39]

You know whats sad? He's really sad? He's also "AWAG" and he does the same thing with his other screen name. Look under his screen name...You see how it says "I love my Gammy"? Thats evil. He would also make fun of my passed away grandmother on JI with comments such as "His DEAD Gammy" which is simply evil.

It's ok...Just like I made a promise to myself that I would never reply to a post of his under his "AGAW" screen name...I'm going to make a promise to myself to never respond to another post from this loser again.

I'm done with all of this...He's been doing this stuff for over a year now, I'm done giving him the attention he's dying for because its obvious what he's up to...Starting trouble (Like always). But this time...I wont fight back and forth with him while ruining a message board, I'm done with him.

I have no idea what the issue was in the past with you...or whatever. But you're talking football and as long as that remains the same...I have no problems.

[AGAW]

You know whats sad? He's really sad? He's also "AWAG" and he does the same thing with his other screen name. Look under his screen name...You see how it says "I love my Gammy"? Thats evil. He would also make fun of my passed away grandmother on JI with comments such as "His DEAD Gammy" which is simply evil.

It's ok...Just like I made a promise to myself that I would never reply to a post of his under his "AGAW" screen name...I'm going to make a promise to myself to never respond to another post from this loser again.

I'm done with all of this...He's been doing this stuff for over a year now, I'm done giving him the attention he's dying for because its obvious what he's up to...Starting trouble (Like always). But this time...I wont fight back and forth with him while ruining a message board, I'm done with him.

For the umpteenth time, it isn't me

Don't believe me, have the Mods perform an IP check... I log in from the same IP consistently. Not too hard to check out on their part.

I never said anything about your gammy in a negative sense. Just about the jersey.

More lies from 'DWC'...

Tell them about your fake kid, fake wife, fake gat, fake basketball career, fake Dolphins jersey story (wait, cross that one off the list) fake college education, fake 90's Jet fandom...

Or you can keep telling the internet how much your sister sleeps around and how she has 7 kids by three different fathers...

Yeah, tell them that since you care so much about your family

[Defense]

You know whats sad? He's really sad? He's also "AWAG" and he does the same thing with his other screen name. Look under his screen name...You see how it says "I love my Gammy"? Thats evil. He would also make fun of my passed away grandmother on JI with comments such as "His DEAD Gammy" which is simply evil.

It's ok...Just like I made a promise to myself that I would never reply to a post of his under his "AGAW" screen name...I'm going to make a promise to myself to never respond to another post from this loser again.

I'm done with all of this...He's been doing this stuff for over a year now, I'm done giving him the attention he's dying for because its obvious what he's up to...Starting trouble (Like always). But this time...I wont fight back and forth with him while ruining a message board, I'm done with him.

I am just curious if you asked to be reinstated here? Or you figured you could come back and no one would notice you were BANNED 2x previously?

[Lil Bit Special]

I can see Max is going to be real happy with whats going on around these parts...

[Vicious89x]

I can see Max is going to be real happy with whats going on around these parts...

IMO you can barely post in threads unless you're ready to declare the jets superbowl champs. Guy doesn't have the best rep amongst the 3 boards.

As for the question at hand the answer is no. Pat White and Ronnie Brown will give teams plenty to worry about unless d-coordinators have solved it during the off season

[crashingjet]

Thanks alot! You two jerks have ruined a perfectly good thread about the dolphins with your sissy slapping. How do you expect a serious football discussion when you two nancies keep flirting?

As for the topic, no, the jets cannot run the wildcat better than the dolphins, and for the record, it's a question that shouldn't be discussed because of the absudity of it.

[Bleed4TheGreen]

Thanks alot! You two jerks have ruined a perfectly good thread about the dolphins with your sissy slapping. How do you expect a serious football discussion when you two nancies keep flirting?

As for the topic, no, the jets cannot run the wildcat better than the dolphins, and for the record, it's a question that shouldn't be discussed because of the absudity of it.

Lets start talking about football again...Weren't you the one who thought Pennington was a career backup and called him "Noodle arm" for many of years?

Enjoy the QB who can never beat an elite Defense...hahahah

Noodle arm, cant even complete a 15 yard out route

[Lil Bit Special]

[CTM]

Thanks alot! You two jerks have ruined a perfectly good thread about the dolphins with your sissy slapping. How do you expect a serious football discussion when you two nancies keep flirting?

As for the topic, no, the jets cannot run the wildcat better than the dolphins, and for the record, it's a question that shouldn't be discussed because of the absudity of it.

If we sign VIck then yes!

[JiFtheOracle]

Not for nothing, but can you guys knock this **** out? How pathetic is it that you live to bash some guy posting on Jets message board? This new DWC actually posts about Football, though its homerific and incredibly long winded, he is actual posting about Football. And the only reason its pissin me of is because Broadway started a good thread and 5 of the posts are a bunch of weirdos going at it completely hijacking an actual thread about Football. The guy obviously took sometime to think and write this out. Anyway...

Larz is right. We were using it before it became popular and as much as people want to knock it and Brad Smith...it was fairly successful. The thing about it is that it keeps the D on their toes and also tires them out by making the run sideline to sideline.

The one thing we got going for us is that our HC has shutting the Wild Cat down to a science. If Shotty can implement it, Ryan might have a nice take on how to strengthen its weaknesses because he has mastered exploiting them defensively.

[Defense]

I am sorry, JIF. I'll stop.

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

The Wildcat is here to stay. Teams struggled with defending it last season...

For a couple of weeks. It really only won them one game. The first game they used it. The Pats were unprepared for it and it was very effective. It the second game against the Pats it was useless and the Patriots smoked the Fins.

It was the surprise that made it effective. It won't be nearly as effective this year.

[Bleed4TheGreen]

Larz is right. We were using it before it became popular and as much as people want to knock it and Brad Smith...it was fairly successful. The thing about it is that it keeps the D on their toes and also tires them out by making the run sideline to sideline.

The one thing we got going for us is that our HC has shutting the Wild Cat down to a science. If Shotty can implement it, Ryan might have a nice take on how to strengthen its weaknesses because he has mastered exploiting them defensively.

But were we actually running the "Wild Cat"? I know we had Brad Smith as our QB in 2006 with alot of trick plays but...To me, it was just let Brad Smith try whatever it takes to gain a yard or two, it just wasn't smooth like Miami runs it and to me, it was sloppy and I hated to see it.

Everything I put in bold print, is everything I love and NEVER thought about until I seen you post it...

I never got a chance to watch the Miami playoff game vs Balt...Did they try the Wildcat against Rex Ryan and if so....What happened?

[CTM]

I am sorry, JIF. I'll stop.

Wow..

Jif's pimp had is strong..

Who knew?

Anyway, I think we'll see some wildcat this year, much like most of the league will run variations of it. Outside of a team signing Vick though, I can't see anyone running better then dullphins

[Vicious89x]

Jig I love you bro but I will not be stopping. Little punk like to bring up my kid as a way to insult me. Call me an angry poppa bear.

Good point though on schotts and Rex though. If schotts was good at anything it was using motions to disguise plays. He could use someones defensive

mind like Rex to find a better way to keep the d on their toes

[JiFtheOracle]

IMO you can barely post in threads unless you're ready to declare the jets superbowl champs. Guy doesn't have the best rep amongst the 3 boards.

As for the question at hand the answer is no. Pat White and Ronnie Brown will give teams plenty to worry about unless d-coordinators have solved it during the off season

I still wonder how effective Pat White is going to be, is he elusive enough for the NLF? Can he take the punishment of taking direct naps and potentially getting dominated by guys like Kris Jenkins?

Anyway, Rex dominated the WC last year.

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Rex did dominate the Wildcat last season. Let us hope it was more the scheme than it was the front seven because our front seven is not as good as Baltimore's.

[JiFtheOracle]

But were we actually running the "Wild Cat"? I know we had Brad Smith as our QB in 2006 with alot of trick plays but...To me, it was just let Brad Smith try whatever it takes to gain a yard or two, it just wasn't smooth like Miami runs it and to me, it was sloppy and I hated to see it.

Everything I put in bold print, is everything I love and NEVER thought about until I seen you post it...

I never got a chance to watch the Miami playoff game vs Balt...Did they try the Wildcat against Rex Ryan and if so....What happened?

It was a varation of it, for sure. I mean Smith wasnt going to thrown the ball, he would take direct snaps and toss or keep. And the Dolphins ran it smooth because that was their offense. We did it at times and never gained a riddim.

Rex dominated the WC both times he faced it. Dominated.

Wow..

Jif's pimp had is strong..

Who knew?

Anyway, I think we'll see some wildcat this year, much like most of the league will run variations of it. Outside of a team signing Vick though, I can't see anyone running better then dullphins

I wasnt trying to pimp hand just saying, its a good topic.

And I agree, we wont run it as well, but we will run it. I think the Vikings might be pretty nasty with it too if they wanted to give it a shot. Especially with Percy there now.

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ll run it. I think the Vikings might be pretty nasty with it too if they wanted to give it a shot. Especially with Percy there now.

Why's that? Did they install a time traveling healing machine to keep him healthy for more than 5 plays at a time?

[Vicious89x]

I still wonder how effective Pat White is going to be, is he elusive enough for the NLF? Can he take the punishment of taking direct naps and potentially getting dominated by guys like Kris Jenkins?

Anyway, Rex dominated the WC last year.

Honestly I think white is a better athlete then smith and will be more

elusive. I'm not scared of him but I do think he can run it aginst weaker teams with a poor pass rush. The difference is he can definitely make the throws... But the question will be will he make the proper reads on the run? I think not personally, not yet, not at the NFL level.

[JiFtheOracle]

Why's that? Did they install a time traveling healing machine to keep him healthy for more than 5 plays at a time?

Dont get of me started of track...

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Dont get of me started of track...

Check out my post on Page 1, its post #2, the first response (duh) before all the drama came into this thread for 2 pages.

[JiFtheOracle]

Honestly I think white is a better athlete then smith and will be more

elusive. I'm not scared of him but I do think he can run it aginst weaker teams with a poor pass rush. The difference is he can definitely make the throws... But the question will be will he make the proper reads on the run? I think not personally, not yet, not at the NFL level.

Brad was pretty nasty when he was running the ball in college. A little more powerful and elusive then White who was just elusive. As an all around athlete, White has the edge but Smith is pretty damn athletic.

Check out my post on Page 1, its post #2, the first response (duh) before all the drama came into this thread for 2 pages.

I read it. We got away from it with the Diva. I'm sure Brad will be used as well. Leon is really a great RB to use because of his ability to get to the edge.

[Matt39]

Honestly I think white is a better athlete then smith and will be more

elusive. I'm not scared of him but I do think he can run it aginst weaker teams with a poor pass rush. The difference is he can definitely make the throws... But the question will be will he make the proper reads on the run? I think not personally, not yet, not at the NFL level.

Better athlete and a better passer.