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Someone mentioned this the other day and the more I think of it, the more I like the idea of a trade for Cliff Lee. His value is low, he's not a Cy Young pitcher this year or anywhere near that. I wonder if there would be a way for the Yanks to make a deal with the tribe without getting fleeced.

That was me... LOL

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And how can a Red Sox fan talk about high payrolls? You have NO idea what Tampa Bay Ray fans think about the Red Sox and Yankees...For the money you all have, it shouldn't even be a race.

There are Tampa Bay Rays fans?

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You can't tell me the Sawx couldn't use an outfielder....JD Drew is a Mess

You can't tell me the Sawx couldn't use another starter...Smoltzie has been a bust thusfar, and who knows about Dice?

You need depth....the Yanks made a solid move in picking up Hinske

Sawx will do something

What would opposing teams do against Beckett, Doc, and Lester in the playoffs?

JD Drew is not hitting well right now, sure. He is also being paid 14 or 15 million dollars. I doubt very much that he's moveable. Could he be upgraded? Sure but his price tag doesn't make him benchable.

Sox do not need another starter. They have Clay Buchholz, they have Bowden, Dice K is rehabbing and will be back. Wakes should be back. Smoltz is 5 starts into a season with no training camp and coming off major shoulder surgery. The Sox are the last team that needs a starter and would actually like to see them move Brad Penny for something decent.

Sox may do something like a lefty specialist out of the pen, but not much else.

Halladay has never pitched in the playoffs, so how are we to assume he'd be good there? Sox will be just fine with the starting pitching they have and be able to hold onto their young studs for much longer than a season and 2 months.

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CC

I am with you on this.....I think the Sawx are good enough, and they will stand pat

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Sox may do something like a lefty specialist out of the pen, but not much else.

The Red Sox have dropped four straight and are out of first place for the first time since June 8. How worried are you about this team?

Legitimately worried. I still think this is a playoff team, but the lackluster opening to the second half has me concerned. red.gif 41.9%

Extremely worried. The Sox aren't hitting at all, they look lethargic ... could the Big Fade be upon us? blue.gif 31.1%

Just a little concerned. Sure, they're not hitting now, but I have no doubt they'll snap out of this funk. The Rangers are a tough opponent. red.gif 18.1%

Not at all worried. Come on, it's just four games ... this is the best team in baseball, have faith. blue.gif 8.9%

Total votes: 2119

Boston.com's surveys are not scientifically valid. They reflect the opinions of only those who vote

Seems as if the rest of Sawx nation has a different opinion than you.....bwa-hahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha

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Yeah, and in 1997, and 2003 those same people were Florida Marlins fans... lol

Thats not true. And you can ask anyone, I've ALWAYS been a die hard Devil-Rays fan (I don't need a winning team to love my teams) Just ask the Knicks and Jets.

I also have posts on JI as far back as 2005-Showing my love for the D-Rays....

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Thats not true. And you can ask anyone, I've ALWAYS been a die hard Devil-Rays fan (I don't need a winning team to love my teams) Just ask the Knicks and Jets.

I also have posts on JI as far back as 2005-Showing my love for the D-Rays....

Always? How old are you? lol.

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Boston.com's surveys are not scientifically valid. They reflect the opinions of only those who vote

really should have said:

"Boston.com's surveys are not scientifically valid. They reflect the opinions of idiotic fans who panic over a couple of losses."

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really should have said:

"Boston.com's surveys are not scientifically valid. They reflect the opinions of idiotic fans who panic over a couple of losses."

All sports fans are idiots who panic over a few losses or idiots who are homers when their teams obviously suck. The people who are unbiased and fair in judging their teams are the exception not the rule.

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That was me... LOL

You get the credit then my friend. I do like the sounds of that trade more and more especially considering Wang being hurt. The question is who the Indians would want in return obviously.

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You get the credit then my friend. I do like the sounds of that trade more and more especially considering Wang being hurt. The question is who the Indians would want in return obviously.

Well...Since Cliff Lee just won the cy young award last year, coming off of back to back complete game W's...They may want around the same as the Jays want for Roy. Maybe not that much but still, the Yankees would HAVE to give up a top prospect such as either Hughes or Joba along with another player because Lee is only 30 years of age right now.

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Well...Since Cliff Lee just won the cy young award last year, coming off of back to back complete game W's...They may want around the same as the Jays want for Roy. Maybe not that much but still, the Yankees would HAVE to give up a top prospect such as either Hughes or Joba along with another player because Lee is only 30 years of age right now.

It's all a matter of how they work the deal, Lee was putrid for the first part of the year and is finally starting to put it together a little bit. I think he has those back to backs but gave up 7 ER 3 games ago, so he's still inconsistent.

His market value is lower the Doc's right now. Doc is one of the 2 best pitchers in the game right now, and has done it for years. Lee exploded out of nowhere last year and looks more like "old" Cliff lee then Cy Young Cliff Lee. I'm not a GM but I think we could get him on the cheap comparatively to Doc. I'm not for selling the farm for him though. I don't want to see a Joba/Hughes, Jackson/Montero type of deal for him.

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All sports fans are idiots who panic over a few losses or idiots who are homers when their teams obviously suck. The people who are unbiased and fair in judging their teams are the exception not the rule.

and they're why i never listen to sports talk radio. Sure i get mad when my team loses (usually pissed off for about 3 days after a Jets loss) but i try to avoid :scare:

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Sox should hope that Clay is going to hold up.

Mitre was meh... but we put up the runs. This race will be tight for the rest of the year. The Rays have been just as hot as the Yankees yet can't gain any ground due to the fact we've been playing good ball. Let's not forget we came out of the all-star break down 3. Baseball is an up and down sport. We still need to beat the Red Sox before we pound our chests. We've done fine against the Rays. I'm just excited to watch a fun 3 way race for the top of the AL East.

I'm loving the way we've played out of the break though, if Andy can be that great 2nd half pitcher he has been in his career of if Joba has figured it out, 1-4 will be pretty damn good. Then Hughes, Ace and Mo make a pretty nice bullpen.

I agree that this is going to a three team battle for the rest of the way. The Yanks, Sox, and Rays are probably 3 of the 4 top teams in the AL and one of them will be on the outside looking in in October.

The Yanks are on a nice run but they have to take of business against the Rays and Sox the rest of the season. They have 10 games left with each. Should be fun.

Yankees @ Tampa: July 27, 28, 29

Boston @ New York: August 6, 7, 8, 9

Yankees @ Boston: August 21, 22, 23

Tampa @ New York: September 7(DH), 8, 9

Boston @ New York: September 25, 26, 27

New York @ Tampa: October 2, 3, 4

Bad news for the Yanks, they play at the Angels September 21, 22, 23.

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I agree that this is going to a three team battle for the rest of the way. The Yanks, Sox, and Rays are probably 3 of the 4 top teams in the AL and one of them will be on the outside looking in in October.

The Yanks are on a nice run but they have to take of business against the Rays and Sox the rest of the season. They have 10 games left with each. Should be fun.

Yankees @ Tampa: July 27, 28, 29

Boston @ New York: August 6, 7, 8, 9

Yankees @ Boston: August 21, 22, 23

Tampa @ New York: September 7(DH), 8, 9

Boston @ New York: September 25, 26, 27

New York @ Tampa: October 2, 3, 4

Bad news for the Yanks, they play at the Angels September 21, 22, 23.

Guess we should create a 4 game cushion by then if we're still in first :face:

We NEED to beat the Red Sox. As long as the Red Sox keep beating us we're just helping to prop them up atop the AL East. At least August will be interesting this year, with the way all 3 teams have kept winning it's really about who's going to give ground first. Boston has gotta right the ship ASAP.

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Guess we should create a 4 game cushion by then if we're still in first :face:

We NEED to beat the Red Sox. As long as the Red Sox keep beating us we're just helping to prop them up atop the AL East. At least August will be interesting this year, with the way all 3 teams have kept winning it's really about who's going to give ground first. Boston has gotta right the ship ASAP.

We might need a 5 game cushion. I just noticed a Yankees-Angels makeup game in mid-September at the Stadium.

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Rays lead the ChiSox in the 7th.

Rangers lead the BoSox in the 6th.

Are Yankee fans supposed to be rooting for Tampa?

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White Sox beat the Rays 4-3.

Texas leads Boston 3-1 in the bottom of the eighth.

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Red Sox lose 3-1. Bad road trip.

Tamps plays Chicago again tomorrow, then go to Toronto this weekend.

Red Sox host Baltimore for 3 starting Friday.

Yankees host Oakland for 4.

Edited by Otter

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Sawx are folding like a lawn chair

This thing can get away from them in a hurry

It's a long season. They're in a slump. Things didn't click right away for the Yankees and you know they'll implode in the playoffs, if they make it.

Enjoy it now JonE. I know you haven't had anything to be happy about in a while when it comes to the Yanks.

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and you know they'll implode in the playoffs, if they make it.

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Talk about being a sore loser

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Talk about being a sore loser

He's probably right though. lol

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b.s. the yankees are not going to fold in the playoffs.

*sigh* I've thought the same thing every year since 2002.

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Talk about being a sore loser

Yup. And you Yankee fans have been great about those 8 losses to the Red Sox.

The Yankees have played well as a team in the playoffs in a while and they brought in guys who consistently choke in the playoffs as well. Recipe for disaster.

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Yup. And you Yankee fans have been great about those 8 losses to the Red Sox.

The Yankees have played well as a team in the playoffs in a while and they brought in guys who consistently choke in the playoffs as well. Recipe for disaster.

Sorry, I just can't take a Pens-Jets-Sux fan seriously. I know you've recounted the legit reasons why you're fanhood is so spread out, and that this is my issue not yours.

Still....:rolleyes:

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Yup. And you Yankee fans have been great about those 8 losses to the Red Sox.

The Yankees have played well as a team in the playoffs in a while and they brought in guys who consistently choke in the playoffs as well. Recipe for disaster.

You know what's a recipe for disaster?

The 2009 Red Sawx

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Toronto beat Tampa today 5-1

Baltimore is actually beating Boston 6-1 in the eighth

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Sox up on Oakland 5-0 in the 5th.

Pretty easy stretch for Boston. Next seven games are against the A's and O's before playing the Rays and Yanks.

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Sorry, I just can't take a Pens-Jets-Sux fan seriously. I know you've recounted the legit reasons why you're fanhood is so spread out, and that this is my issue not yours.

Still....:rolleyes:

Well, I am a Jets/Cubs fans.

I suppose I am just a glutton for misery.

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