hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How can anyone be suprised? The WR's and O Line aren't nearly as good as the Patriots. The Patriots made Cassel good, not the other way around. per Rotoworld.com Matt Cassel's play has reportedly "slipped" since the beginning of training camp. Cassel has been on a fumble and interception streak ever since committing three turnovers in a scrimmage two weeks ago. Asked if Cassel was the best QB in camp, coach Todd Haley replied: "I think I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 That sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Cue Klecko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 A six-year, $63M contract may be the only thing keeping Cassel under center in Week 1. How much of that is guaranteed? This guy is gonna blow on the Chiefs. Anybody who thinks KC won't deal with the Jets because of the Belichick-Pioli connection should look again at how Belichick ripped Pioli off and set his new franchise back a couple years before he even got started. Why should Pioli feel any loyalty after this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How much of that is guaranteed? This guy is gonna blow on the Chiefs. Anybody who thinks KC won't deal with the Jets because of the Belichick-Pioli connection should look again at how Belichick ripped Pioli off and set his new franchise back a couple years before he even got started. Why should Pioli feel any loyalty after this? The trade wasn't really a rip off... The contract on the other hand... vom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 The trade wasn't really a rip off... The contract on the other hand... vom. Yep. But maybe they can trade him to Denver finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Cue Klecko. 6 years $63 million!!!! This guy makes the deal the Jets gave Pennington look like insanely good value by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yep. But maybe they can trade him to Denver finally. You think Orton would be an upgrade over Cassel then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thigpen wasnt even bad last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 That sucks. For KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thigpen wasnt even bad last season. Not at all. I thought he played good for such a crap O line and team in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 You think Orton would be an upgrade over Cassel then? They're pretty much the same (talent-wise). Put Orton on the Pats last year, he would have done the same thing... 21-12 as a starter...and that's including getting thrown into the fire week 2 in his rookie year (he was a 4th round pick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 They're pretty much the same (talent-wise). Put Orton on the Pats last year, he would have done the same thing... I agree. Given the same amount of time in the system, I think he would've done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Guess this pretty much shows who really wore the pants when Pioli was the GM of the Patriots. That being said, I hope Cassel gets things turned around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How much of that is guaranteed? This guy is gonna blow on the Chiefs. Anybody who thinks KC won't deal with the Jets because of the Belichick-Pioli connection should look again at how Belichick ripped Pioli off and set his new franchise back a couple years before he even got started. Why should Pioli feel any loyalty after this? I'm one of those guys Slats. Have we HEARD any rumblings from either KC or Denver on how they are acting towards each other-with NE I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I'm one of those guys Slats. Have we HEARD any rumblings from either KC or Denver on how they are acting towards each other-with NE I mean? I don't think Belichick has any real friends. He's a dick. I really think the loyalty goes out the window with this guy as soon as you get out from under his thumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardKoreXXX Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Scott Mitchell redux? Can't say I feel bad for Pioli. Although it's still early, and Cassel has shown he can thrive in the right system, even if he isn't worth that gaudy contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I don't think Belichick has any real friends. He's a dick. I really think the loyalty goes out the window with this guy as soon as you get out from under his thumb. Really, why shouldn't it be that way? Because you used to work for me and now went to a competitor I should be nice to you? Eff that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 You think Orton would be an upgrade over Cassel then? No. But the KC HC Haley says that he can't say that Cassel is the best QB on the team. Thus, Haley must think that person is better than Cassel (who would also be better than Orton). Besides that, it was a joke. McMoron out of Denver has a hardon for Cassel so he'd be desperate to get a trade done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Matt Cassel didn't decline.....but if the folks in KC are first now realizing that Cooper and Darling are not as good as Moss and Welker they are in for a lot of disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 No. But the KC HC Haley says that he can't say that Cassel is the best QB on the team. Thus, Haley must think that person is better than Cassel (who would also be better than Orton). Besides that, it was a joke. McMoron out of Denver has a hardon for Cassel so he'd be desperate to get a trade done. Yeah. I thought Haley's system was supposed to be very much like McDaniels which is why im surprised to hear he's struggling. Then again, there must be a reason Cassel hasn't started a game since HS before last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 so mama cass can't ball it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 so mama cass can't ball it lol yea but she sho' could sing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Then again, there must be a reason Cassel hasn't started a game since HS before last year. Yeah, he was on the same team a Hiesman winning QB and then a future HOF QB. Name one QB in the NFL that Belichick would bench Brady in favor of..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah, he was on the same team a Hiesman winning QB and then a future HOF QB. Name one QB in the NFL that Belichick would bench Brady in favor of..... Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah, he was on the same team a Hiesman winning QB and then a future HOF QB. Name one QB in the NFL that Belichick would bench Brady in favor of..... Peyton 4 sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Peyton 4 sure Nope. And if the Colts got Brady they would not bench Peyton. But put Brady or Peyton on anyone of the the other 30 teams in the NFL and a starter loses his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Nope. And if the Colts got Brady they would not bench Peyton. But put Brady or Peyton on anyone of the the other 30 teams in the NFL and a starter loses his job. No way! Really??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 No way! Really??? Yes, really. My point was that Cassel's inablility to beat out Brady for the starting job doesn't mean he sucks. It is similiar to my view of Bledsoe...no shame in losing a starting job to Brady. The fact that he lost a starting job to JP Losman should be an embarassement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah, he was on the same team a Hiesman winning QB and then a future HOF QB. Name one QB in the NFL that Belichick would bench Brady in favor of..... Brett Favre. someone had to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yes, really. My point was that Cassel's inablility to beat out Brady for the starting job doesn't mean he sucks. But it doesn't mean hes that good either. It just means he's a mystery. And the Chiefs are finding out how he'll play when he doesn't have an all pro o line and 2 insane WRs to help guide him along. And not to mention Brady took the Patriots to a few Superbowls without those two studs, Moss and Welker. What does that say about Cassel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How can anyone be suprised? The WR's and O Line aren't nearly as good as the Patriots. The Patriots made Cassel good, not the other way around. per Rotoworld.com Matt Cassel's play has reportedly "slipped" since the beginning of training camp. Cassel has been on a fumble and interception streak ever since committing three turnovers in a scrimmage two weeks ago. Asked if Cassel was the best QB in camp, coach Todd Haley replied: "I think I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Matt Cassel didn't decline.....but if the folks in KC are first now realizing that Cooper and Darling are not as good as Moss and Welker they are in for a lot of disappointment. Why the **** do you care if Cassell sucks? BB used him to rape the Pioli and the Chiefs for a 2nd rounder. Be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 This means Brady sucks too. Right? I'm kidding. But I'd give anything to see him go somewhere else and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I don't think Belichick has any real friends. Bon Jovi Tony Larrusa Jimmy Johnson Nick Saban Charlie Weis Earnie Adams Urban Meyer Mike Shanahan visited NEs training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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