NYJ553 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Per Rotoworld... Jets acquired QB Kevin O'Connell from the Lions in exchange for undisclosed compensation. Detroit did a nice job of getting something for nothing here; GM Martin Mayhew is using his No. 1 waiver priority wisely. From the Jets' perspective, the move may signal the end of the Kellen Clemens experiment. Erik Ainge was more productive in preseason games. O'Connell will likely be third string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Green Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 We better get something back for KC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Rotoworld is reporting the Jets have made a deal with the Detroit Lions to acquire ex Patriot QB Kevin O'Connell. Whats up with this deal? Is a trade imminent to Denver who is supposedly shopping Marshall for a QB and next years #1 draft pick. Could Kellen Clemens be headed to Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Green Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Yeah, you are a little late though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 We better get something back for KC! Why? He's ****ing useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Yeah, you are a little late though. Sorry please merge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Rex must really want that playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Could KC be on his way to Denver along with a #1 pick for Marshall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 We better get something back for KC! when he came out of the draft everyone said hes another brady meaning drafted late but could become something big. Yes the pats did cut him but i wanted him in that draft so Im happy with the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they gave up anything more than a 7th round pick Tanny should be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Could KC be on his way to Denver along with a #1 pick for Marshall? No, he couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 No, he couldn't. Why not this is the same team who traded Cutler for Orton and took D-Rob off our hands. Never say never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Green Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Why? He's ****ing useless. Well the Lions just got something for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Why not this is the same team who traded Cutler for Orton and took D-Rob off our hands. Never say never. If they wanted David Harris and a draft pick a couple days ago, they aren't going to say "Oh, ok...nevermind. We'll take Kellen Clemens and a draft pick instead!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Green Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they wanted David Harris and a draft pick a couple days ago, they aren't going to say "Oh, ok...nevermind. We'll take Kellen Clemens and a draft pick instead!".They try not to look desperate, if they feell they are going to get nothing out of him, they'll take what they can get. I'm not saying KC and a 1 will get him, but they are going to have to come down in their asking price, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they wanted David Harris and a draft pick a couple days ago, they aren't going to say "Oh, ok...nevermind. We'll take Kellen Clemens and a draft pick instead!". They have no QB right now... and they did not say they wanted Harris... ESPN said they did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they wanted David Harris and a draft pick a couple days ago, they aren't going to say "Oh, ok...nevermind. We'll take Kellen Clemens and a draft pick instead!". Understood but I dont see any other team making a play for Marshall either. Denver im sure wants him gone by the opener. And Orton just got hurt and maybe the finger injury is worse than originally anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Just a thought. It seems a team putting a claim in for a waived player shouldn't be doing it just to trade him. I'd like to see a 4-week no-trade period so teams have to be serious about pickup up a player off waivers. This isn't because of this specific move, but it made me aware of the practice and it seems a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Just a thought. It seems a team putting a claim in for a waived player shouldn't be doing it just to trade him. I'd like to see a 4-week no-trade period so teams have to be serious about pickup up a player off waivers. This isn't because of this specific move, but it made me aware of the practice and it seems a bit odd. Why? A bottom feeder should be able to make such moves... there is a risk involved with picking up a player just to trade them if you cannot move them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79364&highlight=kleckineau And some of you guys thought this was silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 They have no QB right now... and they did not say they wanted Harris... ESPN said they did... Orton is not a good QB, but he's worlds better than Clemens. And why would they trade for Clemens when we're about to cut him anyway? Holy Doug Jolley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Okay, why the hell are we trading for someone who was just picked up in free agency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Why? A bottom feeder should be able to make such moves... there is a risk involved with picking up a player just to trade them if you cannot move them as well. Because it allow for manipulation through collusion where a top team can make a deal with a bottom team to snag a guy ahead of one in between. Extreme case: Say IND waives a player and PIT wants him. Is there any rule in place to prevent them from saying to DET "claim him and we'll pay you a 7th round pick for him tomorrow"? Maybe there is but it's probably impossible to prove anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Okay, why the hell are we trading for someone who was just picked up in free agency? Lions claimed him on waivers before he got to us. Or anyone else, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Okay, why the hell are we trading for someone who was just picked up in free agency? because he has the NE playbook in his head and may be better than Ainge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Because it allow for manipulation through collusion where a top team can make a deal with a bottom team to snag a guy ahead of one in between. Extreme case: Say IND waives a player and PIT wants him. Is there any rule in place to prevent them from saying to DET "claim him and we'll pay you a 7th round pick for him tomorrow"? Maybe there is but it's probably impossible to prove anyway. You make a good point. And it is possible that the Jets worked out this deal in advance. However, being it doesn't happen very often I don't think it is much of a problem. Kinda like when folks were calling for a change in the playoffs when an 11 team missed, if it starts happening on a regular basis we can discuss fixes, if it is a rare occurance then there is no reason to tweek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 You make a good point. And it is possible that the Jets worked out this deal in advance. However, being it doesn't happen very often I don't think it is much of a problem. Kinda like when folks were calling for a change in the playoffs when an 11 team missed, if it starts happening on a regular basis we can discuss fixes, if it is a rare occurance then there is no reason to tweek. Agreed. It's not like superstars will be waived this way, but it does seem like it will eventually cause a stir if left unchecked. BTW, an 11-win team missing the playoffs bothered me a lot less last season than in the past for some odd reason . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 because he has the NE playbook in his head and may be better than Ainge! Have you been watching this season? Ainge is pretty good and O'Connell got beat out by Brian Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 If they gave up anything more than a 7th round pick Tanny should be shot. Rex must really want that playbook. It has to be the playbook...but still think its not worth the pick...yeah...I know 7th rounders are pretty much worthless but they could have contacted Walter for the playbook. This makes zero sense unless KC is traded and Ainge has some kind of injury...even then is O'Connell the best we could find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 More likely we traded for O'Connell for future trade to Denver...only thing that makes sense...McDaniels is desparate for QB...at least one who knows his system and we have interest in Marshall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Why? He's ****ing useless. because we spent a second round pick on him and we need something for him. we probably won't. we always get the shaft when it comes to trading our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcatxl Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 i heard he punted in high school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 what this means IMO anyway, is that Kellen Clemens will NOT be traded to Denver, but that he will end up on injured reserve b/c his elbow is a lot worse than they thought. I smell surgery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Have you been watching this season? Ainge is pretty good and O'Connell got beat out by Brian Hoyer. you mean this pre-season! yes Ainge is pretty good in a system he's been in for 2 yrs and against other teams 3rd string! And I wouldn't say O'Connell got "beat out" by anybody, simply the Pats have someone in mind (AJ Feeley?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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