Aten Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Everyone who's talking about the '1 good year' thing need to also take into consideration that his '1 good year' was also the one year that Derek Anderson looked like a real QB. And also that the '1 good year' was really just four good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 What? Stuckey is a run of the mill #3 or 4 WR that bounces around from team to team for an entire NFL career. When his career is all said and done the only ones that will remember him are the die hard fans of the teams he played for. Think Bobby Wade. Are you going to remember Bobby Wade 15 years from now? who is Bobby Wade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 And also that the '1 good year' was really just four good games. I'll take four good games for 16 TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I'll take four good games for 16 TDs. THIS IS THE WORST TRADE EVER, GOSH WHY CAN'T YOU SEE IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 And also that the '1 good year' was really just four good games. As opposed to Chansi Stuckey, who will probably have 1 good game his whole career (week 1 against the Texans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Who is Bobby Wade??? Exactly. Pretty much exactly what Browns fans would have said about Stuckey if asked yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 How did we do against the Raiders last year? Oh, wait... And that means........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Exactly. Pretty much exactly what Browns fans would have said about Stuckey if asked yesterday. Exactly. And if the shoe were on the other foot, we'd ALL be complaining about how little we got for Braylon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Everyone who's talking about the '1 good year' thing need to also take into consideration that his '1 good year' was also the one year that Derek Anderson looked like a real QB. Coincidence? Bradway traded a 2nd for Justin McCareins and Tannenbaum traded a 4th for Kevin Barlow. Tannenbaum is learning. One good year is good enough for what the Jets gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Bradway traded a 2nd for Justin McCareins and Tannenbaum traded a 4th for Kevin Barlow. Tannenbaum is learning. One good year is good enough for what the Jets gave up. Must say your comparative analysis does make this look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I feel bad for the guys going to Cleveland. That's got to be a terrible feeling. I feel pretty good about Edwards though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 this is the move I've been waiting for the Jets to make since the day Keyshawn split for Tampa Bay-FINALLY!!!! we got our big WR. He's a combination of Richard Caster/Jerome Barkum/Al Toon and a dash of KJ sprinkled in-all in one player-I am a happy Jets fan today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Bradway traded a 2nd for Justin McCareins and Tannenbaum traded a 4th for Kevin Barlow. Tannenbaum is learning. One good year is good enough for what the Jets gave up. I <3 Tannenbaum. gheyhomomanlove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papageorgio268 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I feel bad for the guys going to Cleveland. That's got to be a terrible feeling. I feel pretty good about Edwards though. Same. They were both contributers and the fact that they have worked hard this season, been part of this team getting to where it is now, it must be horrible for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Can you imagine Braylon trying to get an attitude with Jenks and Scott? That's what I love about this team. I actually do think if you are not part of the TEAM and buy into this they will murder you in your sleep. Or something like that. I imagine it being something like Full Metal Jacket with the soap in a sock beatings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I imagine it being something like Full Metal Jacket with the soap in a sock beatings. Or like the 300 THIS IS SPARTA kick down the hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 This was a good deal for the Browns long term and a good deal for the Jets short term. Why it was a good deal for the Browns....... Edwards was a cancer, his contract was up at the end of the year, he might be facing a suspension and his absense will not affect the Browns playoff chances. The Browns made out cause they have two additional picks a 3rd that could be come a 2nd and a 5th. It is unlikely Edwards was going to be part of the team n 2010, they now have a wideout that will be part of the 2010 team and 2 picks to help them rebuild for 2010. Why it was a good deal for the Jets short term..... Fills in the one hole the Jets have for win now. Jets down side...... Does the team have any draft picks left for 2010? Edwards contract is up at the end of the season, so the two picks was given up for 12 games. Plus he is facing a possible suspension. And has known to be a lockerroom problem. Some mitigating factors to the downside..... A suspension is a real possiblity, but at most I see it being a one game suspension. Would the trade really be much different if it was done one week later, for 11 games of service instead of 12....I don't think so. He has an incentive to behave. He wants to be paid either by the Jets or in FA next year. And the team is better run than Mangini's which should keep him in line a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 who is Bobby Wade? Late joke fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 This was a good deal for the Browns long term and a good deal for the Jets short term. Why it was a good deal for the Browns....... Edwards was a cancer, his contract was up at the end of the year, he might be facing a suspension and his absense will not affect the Browns playoff chances. The Browns made out cause they have two additional picks a 3rd that could be come a 2nd and a 5th. It is unlikely Edwards was going to be part of the team n 2010, they now have a wideout that will be part of the 2010 team and 2 picks to help them rebuild for 2010. Why it was a good deal for the Jets short term..... Fills in the one hole the Jets have for win now. Jets down side...... Does the team have any draft picks left for 2010? Edwards contract is up at the end of the season, so the two picks was given up for 12 games. Plus he is facing a possible suspension. And has known to be a lockerroom problem. Some mitigating factors to the downside..... A suspension is a real possiblity, but at most I see it being a one game suspension. Would the trade really be much different if it was done one week later, for 11 games of service instead of 12....I don't think so. He has an incentive to behave. He wants to be paid either by the Jets or in FA next year. And the team is better run than Mangini's which should keep him in line a bit better. You crack me up. Have the Jets ever done anything good...ever? You are the least objective troll on this board. Have you seen what the Jets have done the last few drafts? We dont care about stock piling doodoo only to get guys that dont make the roster like the Pats*. We go for talent we and do what we need to do to get it. We still have next years first and second. And there isnt going to be a cap next year. And he's 26. And Randy Moss was a cancer too at one point in his career. Your post is one huge FAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 You crack me up. Have the Jets ever done anything good...ever? You are the least objective troll on this board. Have you seen what the Jets have done the last few drafts? We dont care about stock piling doodoo only to get guys that dont make the roster like the Pats*. We go for talent we and do what we need to do to get it. We still have next years first and second. And there isnt going to be a cap next year. And he's 26. And Randy Moss was a cancer too at one point in his career. Your post is one huge FAIL. and...we get our #1 priority in next years draft with a PROVEN player-Edwards has scored 25 TDs over the last 3 years. This is no "maybe he'll be good" guy or "I hope we can sign him" ala Crabtree deal. So we get a #1 WR and STILL have our #'s 1 and 2 that we would have surely spent one of them on at WR. Great deal for New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 EDWARDS IS NOT AN UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT AFTER THE SEASON! So this claim that Edwards is here for 12 games is nonsense. Nonsense. In order for Edwards to be a FA, there has to be a new CBA by March 2010. The NFL & NFLPA's aren't even talking yet. Plus, if there is a new CBA and the Jets don't extend him, they can franchise him. So please, Hoodie and anyone else coming up with the bogus 12 game argument. PLEASE STOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 And also that the '1 good year' was really just four good games. Sometime I think you just wake up in the morning with the goal of finding as many happy people as you can so you can poop on their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 You crack me up. Have the Jets ever done anything good...ever? You are the least objective troll on this board. Have you seen what the Jets have done the last few drafts? We dont care about stock piling doodoo only to get guys that dont make the roster like the Pats*. We go for talent we and do what we need to do to get it. We still have next years first and second. And there isnt going to be a cap next year. And he's 26. And Randy Moss was a cancer too at one point in his career. Your post is one huge FAIL. Did you actually read my post before responding? In fact I said it was a good trade for the Jets in the short term and fills the one missing piece the team has this year. I also explain why some of the down side is mitigated. In fact I think it was a smart move for BOTH teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 This was a good deal for the Browns long term and a good deal for the Jets short term. Why it was a good deal for the Browns....... Edwards was a cancer, his contract was up at the end of the year, he might be facing a suspension and his absense will not affect the Browns playoff chances. The Browns made out cause they have two additional picks a 3rd that could be come a 2nd and a 5th. It is unlikely Edwards was going to be part of the team n 2010, they now have a wideout that will be part of the 2010 team and 2 picks to help them rebuild for 2010. Why it was a good deal for the Jets short term..... Fills in the one hole the Jets have for win now. Jets down side...... Does the team have any draft picks left for 2010? Edwards contract is up at the end of the season, so the two picks was given up for 12 games. Plus he is facing a possible suspension. And has known to be a lockerroom problem. Some mitigating factors to the downside..... A suspension is a real possiblity, but at most I see it being a one game suspension. Would the trade really be much different if it was done one week later, for 11 games of service instead of 12....I don't think so. He has an incentive to behave. He wants to be paid either by the Jets or in FA next year. And the team is better run than Mangini's which should keep him in line a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I feel bad for the guys going to Cleveland. That's got to be a terrible feeling. I feel pretty good about Edwards though. Agreed and agreed. They finally got away from Mangini and now they're back in it. Sick burn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Sometime I think you just wake up in the morning with the goal of finding as many happy people as you can so you can poop on their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Did you actually read my post before responding? No, because it's poorly written, biased, and unresearched. This, for example: Does the team have any draft picks left for 2010? ...is one of the reasons why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 If that's not avatar-worthy, I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Jets down side...... Does the team have any draft picks left for 2010? Yes, lots of them. Edwards contract is up at the end of the season, so the two picks was given up for 12 games. Epic Fail. If you knew anything about the CBA, you'd know this isn't a problem. See SMC's post. Plus he is facing a possible suspension. This is a fair point, and one of my concerns. And has known to be a lockerroom problem. Link? I'm not doing cartwheels over this trade, but maybe you should cite the actual downsides (drops, inconsistency), instead of manufactured and entirely unsupported ones that allow you to retain your undeservedly haughty attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 congrats to all the BE supporters, I was not one of them. I hope any pray edwards proves me wrong I'll say this, tanny has huge brass balls I just heard about this, is it true he is in the last year of his deal and we did not extend him yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Jim Rome: " He went from the outhouse to the penthouse, from riding a moped around town to a bentley, from a coach that everyone hated to a coach that every one wants to play for" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Epic Fail. If you knew anything about the CBA, you'd know this isn't a problem. See SMC's post. . He will either be a RFA or UFA at the end of the season. None of us know one way for certain. But even if he is a RFA he is still a FA. RFA doesn't mean you can hold on to the player, it means you get a pick if more FA leave than new ones get signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 He will either be a RFA or UFA at the end of the season. None of us know one way for certain. But even if he is a RFA he is still a FA. RFA doesn't mean you can hold on to the player, it means you get a pick if more FA leave than new ones get signed. He'll likely be tendered at a 1st and a 3rd, which is fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 He will either be a RFA or UFA at the end of the season. None of us know one way for certain. But even if he is a RFA he is still a FA. RFA doesn't mean you can hold on to the player, it means you get a pick if more FA leave than new ones get signed. That's completely inaccurate. What you're thinking of is the awards situation for compensatory picks. As far as RFAs, the team in question tenders the player at a certain level, each level costing a different amount and salary and thus having a different compensation involved. If any team tries to sign the RFA to a contract, the team is automatically required to give the original team compensation in the amount determined based on the tender given. Who else that team signs is completely irrelevant to the situation. Therefore, if the Jets give Edwards the highest tender, a team who signs Edwards will have to give the Jets their 1st and 3rd round picks no matter what. Not a bad deal considering they're giving up a 3rd and 5th for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 RFA doesn't mean you can hold on to the player, it means you get a pick if more FA leave than new ones get signed. Exhibit B your honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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