SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 OLB Vernon Gholston barely got on the field. Rookie Jamaal Westerman was used ahead of him as a rusher on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 OLB Vernon Gholston barely got on the field. Rookie Jamaal Westerman was used ahead of him as a rusher on passing downs. Disappointing... But I have to agree. If the guy's not getting a lot of reps in a 38-0 game, it's clear that his time in this league is short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 The experiment looks 85% over. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Disappointing... But I have to agree. If the guy's not getting a lot of reps in a 38-0 game, it's clear that his time in this league is short. What a terrible pick. Teams need to stop taking workout warriors. There are a ton of freakish athletes in the world, but there aren't that many top football players because it takes certain skills to make it. Brock Lesnar is a hell of an athlete but he couldn't make the Vikings squad. I'd say Gholston has less physical talent and even less football skill and ability than Lesnar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 What a terrible pick. Teams need to stop taking workout warriors. There are a ton of freakish athletes in the world, but there aren't that many top football players because it takes certain skills to make it. Brock Lesnar is a hell of an athlete but he couldn't make the Vikings squad. I'd say Gholston has less physical talent and even less football skill and ability than Lesnar. Over-rated State University Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 What a terrible pick. Teams need to stop taking workout warriors. There are a ton of freakish athletes in the world, but there aren't that many top football players because it takes certain skills to make it. Brock Lesnar is a hell of an athlete but he couldn't make the Vikings squad. I'd say Gholston has less physical talent and even less football skill and ability than Lesnar. I mean, the guy did put up a lot of sacks, he also beat up J.Long quite a bit. I understand the pick more than a lot of people seem to, but I get your point. I agree with BZ though, it seems like the experiment is over, and my guess is he's on the roster 1 more year, and then dropped. Though, without a CBA, I don't know how that would change things. Unfortunate though, because if he was what we'd hoped, him and Pace would be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Sucks, I wanted the Jets to draft him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Sucks, I wanted the Jets to draft him too. We wera all fooled by the media hype,don't feel alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Gholston will start this week for the banged up Shaun Ellis and is going to be a big asset against the run since he is faster than Ellis-and nobody 'fix' my post-wiseacres.,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 faurot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Over-rated State University Didn't Mangold go to OSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Didn't Mangold go to OSU? yes but Mangold has much nicer hair so he's an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 this is BS. gholston was a contributor yesterday.....my sources tell me he's the one who furnished sanchez with the hotdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Didn't Mangold go to OSU? even a blind squirell can find a acorn once in awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 yes but Mangold has much nicer hair so he's an exception. POTWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 this is BS. gholston was a contributor yesterday.....my sources tell me he's the one who furnished sanchez with the hotdog. POTWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 even a blind squirell can find a acorn once in awhile Two acorns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Two acorns? ya a few acorns and lots of empty shells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 ya a few acorns and lots of empty shells Lol, just giving you a hard time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 even a blind squirell can find a acorn once in awhile Herm Edwards=Blind Squirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 faurot Awesome, you missed a few though. Actually, unfortunetly, you missed alot. Gholston blows. I think everybody seen this coming. Just didn't think he'd be this bad. Tanny is a great drafter though, and he'll learn from this debacle. He'll be the last workout wonder we draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 faurot No picture of Mike Haight, Dave Cadigan or Kyle Brady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 James Farrior Calvin Pace Bryan Thomas Mike Vrabel Hugh Douglas "Alex, who are draft picks that took years to become NFL impact players?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Tanny is a great drafter though, and he'll learn from this debacle. He'll be the last workout wonder we draft. As long as the pendulum doesn't swing too far the other way, where we start drafting players with "intangibles", but zero measurables again (see: Boar Hunter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 No picture of Mike Haight, Dave Cadigan or Kyle Brady? not enough bandwidth,,max of 10 pictures per post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smashmouth Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Boris Karloff was faster than Gholston even as Frankenstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Boris Karloff was faster than Gholston even as Frankenstein and smarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I am quite sure he is a bust, but they should make a decision at the end of this year. I assume, if next year does not have a cap, then they would take advantage and trade/cut him this offseason and take the hit. If there is a cap, we are stuck with him for awhile. Then, of course, he could come on before the year is through. But don't hold your breath. This guy has zero instincts and plays incredibly soft. Those are not usually traits that get fixed with some experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 James Farrior Calvin Pace Bryan Thomas Mike Vrabel Hugh Douglas "Alex, who are draft picks that took years to become NFL impact players?" Who are draft picks that were all drafted below Vernon Gholston who were still significantly better than him early in their careers? Rookie Year: Farrior: 70 Tackles, 1.5 Sacks, 2 FFs Pace: 32 Tackles, 1 Sack (4.5 sacks in his 2nd year) Bryan Thomas: .5 sacks (With Abraham and Ellis as starters) Mike Vrabel: 1.5 Sacks, 2 FF Hugh Douglas: 10 Sacks All these players except Thomas, showed that they were at least capable NFL Players early on. Something Gholston has yet to do. And Bryan Thomas is by no means an 'impact player'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I am quite sure he is a bust, but they should make a decision at the end of this year. I assume, if next year does not have a cap, then they would take advantage and trade/cut him this offseason and take the hit. If there is a cap, we are stuck with him for awhile. Then, of course, he could come on before the year is through. But don't hold your breath. This guy has zero instincts and plays incredibly soft. Those are not usually traits that get fixed with some experience. go look at a film of Calvin Pace in his 2nd year... compare it to his film from last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 go look at a film of Calvin Pace in his 2nd year... compare it to his film from last week. He had 4.5 sacks his 2nd year. How many will Gholston have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Who are draft picks that were all drafted below Vernon Gholston who were still significantly better than him early in their careers? Rookie Year: Farrior: 70 Tackles, 1.5 Sacks, 2 FFs Pace: 32 Tackles, 1 Sack (4.5 sacks in his 2nd year) Bryan Thomas: .5 sacks (With Abraham and Ellis as starters) Mike Vrabel: 1.5 Sacks, 2 FF Hugh Douglas: 10 Sacks All these players except Thomas, showed that they were at least capable NFL Players early on. Something Gholston has yet to do. And Bryan Thomas is by no means an 'impact player'. BUT DID YOU SEE THAT HIT IN PRESEASON???!!1! YOU CAN'T TEACH THAT!!111!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 James Farrior Calvin Pace Bryan Thomas Mike Vrabel Hugh Douglas "Alex, who are draft picks that took years to become NFL impact players?" Hugh Douglas had 18 sacks and a TD in his first two seasons, and that was with Rich Kotite coaching him. We can only dream about Gholston starting so slow. Farrior - 58 tackles and 1 1/2 sacks as a rookie. Pace - 5 1/2 sacks, two forced fumbles his first two years. Even Vrabel had 4 sacks in his first two years. Gholston registered a tackle as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 He had 4.5 sacks his 2nd year. How many will Gholston have? and did Pace suit up his 1st year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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