Garb Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 ....yah, I know - he's a DH and all your Yankee Fans will scream that A-rod is the MVP. HOWEVER, name one other player in Baseball that single-handidly carries an entire team on his shoulders? You can't. It's Big Papi - the BEST clutch hitter in the game. He comes up BIG again tonight. MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 What seperates Ortiz from ARod this year I think is that without Ortiz's hits, the Sox are DEAD AND BURIED. On that yankee staff Arod is a great bat in a solid lineup. He isn't carrying the team. I have a hard time giving the MVP to a DH, but he truly is the MVP as without him Boston would be nowhere this year. He has so many game winning/tying hits it is not even funny. He's a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 As I said in the MVP thread ... the MVP will be decided the only fair way it can be decided in such a close race ... on the final weekend, head to head, and whichever team wins the A.L. East "THEIR GUY" should also walk away with the hardware IMO that is the only fair way to end this thing .. the division title AND the MVP .. winner take all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 forget the discussion...its not even close. Ortiz couldnt possibly do any more for this team. MOST VALUABLE PAPI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Lets be real clear here If the Jays don't have the "shift" on, that's a double play Also, why he doesn't win the MVP is because 1. He plays half his games in a shoebox 2. Because Boston sux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Most Valuable Primate The Most Valuable Player award will be decided this weekend, but big ugli gorilla face sure boosted himself with tonights performance, but Arod yesterday had an equally as clutch day, yet he gets no credit in the media. Probably because he doesnt swing the bat like a gorilla and stare at his home runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 David Ortiz = this century's Babe Ruth. If Papi doesnt win the MVP after the year he has had and it goes to A-Rod...I'll be glad. For it will mean that the award is tainted. I know A-rod is having a monster year even by his $252 million standards...but David Ortiz is the most clutch athlete in the history of sports, he transcends superfluous awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 David Ortiz = this century's Babe Ruth. If Papi doesnt win the MVP after the year he has had and it goes to A-Rod...I'll be glad. For it will mean that the award is tainted. I know A-rod is having a monster year even by his $252 million standards...but David Ortiz is the most clutch athlete in the history of sports, he transcends superfluous awards. He did it in 1 postseason, so just stop it. Where was ortiz in the 2003 ALCS? Striking out against Mariano Rivera. We'll see just how clutch he is this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 David Ortiz = this century's Babe Ruth. If Papi doesnt win the MVP after the year he has had and it goes to A-Rod...I'll be glad. For it will mean that the award is tainted. I know A-rod is having a monster year even by his $252 million standards...but David Ortiz is the most clutch athlete in the history of sports, he transcends superfluous awards. Only a weasel would even want his guy to walk away with the MVP if his team goes down in flames this weekend ... a real man accepts the challenge ... wants it to be decided this weekend, right along side the division title, winner take all You know darn well this race for the MVP is just like this race for the division title ... razor thin ... so sack up and be a man about it ... WINNER TAKE ALL ... end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 He did it in 1 postseason, so just stop it. Where was ortiz in the 2003 ALCS? Striking out against Mariano Rivera. We'll see just how clutch he is this weekend. I could point out that A-Rod K'ing against pitching god Mike Timlin with 1 out and a man on 3rd in Game 5 cost NYY a pennant, but I wont because I am only concerned with THIS season. Youre an idiot, EB. Try to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 You needed a fluke single against a "shifted" infield to win tonigh You need to win 3 of 4 against the Yankee Lumber Company Best of luck to ya' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I could point out that A-Rod K'ing against pitching god Mike Timlin with 1 out and a man on 3rd in Game 5 cost NYY a pennant, but I wont because I am only concerned with THIS season. Youre an idiot, EB. Try to keep up. For somebody that hates personnal attacks you sure diss out alot of them. Fu#king dumbass. We'll see how the MVPrimate does this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 You guys obviously don't watch the Yankees, so you do not know how many games A-Rod has won by himself, not just with his bat, but with his GLOVE. He has won games by making great plays. He has played the field in every game this year. And he will probably win the Gold Glove. If he's not the MVP that will be the shaft. And Rivera should be the Cy Young. And Cano should be the ROY. Before this month, I would have thought Cano didn't have a chance, but he has had a lights-out September and should be strongly considered for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 David Ortiz = this century's Babe Ruth. If Papi doesnt win the MVP after the year he has had and it goes to A-Rod...I'll be glad. For it will mean that the award is tainted. I know A-rod is having a monster year even by his $252 million standards...but David Ortiz is the most clutch athlete in the history of sports, he transcends superfluous awards. Crack kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Lets be real clear here If the Jays don't have the "shift" on, that's a double play Come on JonE, this is a rookie mistake. Watch his swing. He swung BECAUSE of the shift. He knew a base knock would win it. He adjusted for the infield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Come on JonE, this is a rookie mistake. Watch his swing. He swung BECAUSE of the shift. He knew a base knock would win it. He adjusted for the infield. C'mon If you want to explain a game to me, keep it to field hockey, or cricket...k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 You guys obviously don't watch the Yankees, so you do not know how many games A-Rod has won by himself, not just with his bat, but with his GLOVE. He has won games by making great plays. He has played the field in every game this year. And he will probably win the Gold Glove. If he's not the MVP that will be the shaft. And Rivera should be the Cy Young. And Cano should be the ROY. Before this month, I would have thought Cano didn't have a chance, but he has had a lights-out September and should be strongly considered for it. MVP = Ortiz followed by Arod. If I was a voter on the fence, last night sealed the deal. CY Young = Colon followed by Santana,Cliff Lee ,MO. ROY = Gomes over Cano though you are correct Cano's September has been huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 MVP = Ortiz followed by Arod. If I was a voter on the fence, last night sealed the deal. Perhaps you haven't heard, but there still a little matter of a weekend series ... Yanks Vs Bosox ... for all the marbles Maybe, JUST MAYBE, you should wait until the deal is actually sealed before you seal the deal Just a suggesting, GS :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 MVP = Ortiz followed by Arod. If I was a voter on the fence, last night sealed the deal. CY Young = Colon followed by Santana,Cliff Lee ,MO. ROY = Gomes over Cano though you are correct Cano's September has been huge. BTW, why am I not surprised that the Yankees get completely shutout on your ballot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 BTW, why am I not surprised that the Yankees get completely shutout on your ballot? Colon won 21 games.....If any Yankee did same we would have endless CY Young thread for said pitcher. Gomes had a better year than Cano or Cabrera. :wink: Ortiz IMO edges Arod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Colon won 21 games.....If any Yankee did same we would have endless CY Young thread for said pitcher. Lotta folks are touting Mariano Rivera for the A.L. Cy Young ... but I KNOW you are not one of them Let me Guess ... you have no problem with a DH winning the MVP, but you have a big problem with a closer winning the Cy Young ... is that about right? And how convenient ... Just happens to bury the two Yankees in contention :wink: Heck, you don't even want to wait until all the games are played ... division title be damned ... you just wanna hand Ortiz the MVP right now, to keep it away from Arod, even if Ortiz takes his MVP and goes home and even if Arod turns out to be a big part of the reason why this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Not at all.....why is Mo the CY Young? He has a sweet era but is NOT even the AL saves leader. I ranked MO 4th which means yes I did give him consideration . Look up Cliff Lee's numbers and tell me why MO deserves nod. As for MVP , I rate Ortiz slight edge over ARod as do many others. Your comment on me not wanting to let the games play out b4 making a declaration ....We don't wanna go there Ham. Delete some past threads b4 you bring that my way. I am not burying Yankees. I predicted Yanks squeeze into the play-offs back in JUNE threads....You? We differ on the awards HAM...no biggie...lets see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 You guys obviously don't watch the Yankees, so you do not know how many games A-Rod has won by himself, not just with his bat, but with his GLOVE. He has won games by making great plays. He has played the field in every game this year. And he will probably win the Gold Glove. If he's not the MVP that will be the shaft. And Rivera should be the Cy Young. And Cano should be the ROY. Before this month, I would have thought Cano didn't have a chance, but he has had a lights-out September and should be strongly considered for it. JBF will tell you that A-Rods glove is only average, and Ortiz is the best fielder in the history of sports. The Bosox don't use him at 1st because then it would make a mockery of Baseball, they would be so good. Or some drivel like that. Blah. Blah. Yeah. Whatever. Mo should be a strong candidate for Cy Young. Colon will be there, and even Jose Contrares will garner support based on his 2nd half (11-2, 2.89 ERA since July). The other White Sox starters, Buhrle and Garland, will be there as well. I think Gomes is the real best rookie around in the AL, and Street has had a very super season. But so has Robbie, especially in September. It will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 As far as the MVP goes, it will probably come down to the next 3 games. Whomever wins the series, AND gets his team to 1st place (should there also be a playoff on Monday) will probably get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Just when you think A-Rod pulls ahead Ortiz strikes back. Ortiz SAVED the Sox season last night. Neck and Neck right now with three games to decide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 Personally, I think it's bull that the MVP will be decided this weekend. David Ortiz has carried the Red Sox the ENTIRE year. A-Rod has not. And, for those that diminish Papi's game winning single last nite - he also blasted a homer into the monster seats to tie the game. So, he tied the game and he won the game. Anything else you want him to do? EB - your gorilla comments smack of racism. Cool it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Personally, I think it's bull that the MVP will be decided this weekend. David Ortiz has carried the Red Sox the ENTIRE year. A-Rod has not. And, for those that diminish Papi's game winning single last nite - he also blasted a homer into the monster seats to tie the game. So, he tied the game and he won the game. Anything else you want him to do? EB - your gorilla comments smack of racism. Cool it. Ok. So you dont think David Ortiz looks like a gorilla? Look at the way he swings the bat, like a monkey. His face, looks like a gorilla. With his teeth, he's like the first monkey on the evolutionary chart. And dont get me started on how he runs. The man is an ape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 Ok. So you dont think David Ortiz looks like a gorilla? Look at the way he swings the bat, like a monkey. His face, looks like a gorilla. With his teeth, he's like the first monkey on the evolutionary chart. And dont get me started on how he runs. The man is an ape. Grow up. At least he runs. What running do you do? Running away from those bullies in Gym class that want to give you a wedgie? Besides, you want to talk ugly? Look no further than Matsui and Johnson. Fugly! Further, you want to talk evolution chart similarities? I'm pretty sure Johnny Damon is related to the third guy on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Grow up. At least he runs. What running do you do? Running away from those bullies in Gym class that want to give you a wedgie? Besides, you want to talk ugly? Look no further than Matsui and Johnson. Fugly! Further, you want to talk evolution chart similarities? I'm pretty sure Johnny Damon is related to the third guy on the left. I am damn fast actually. 5-11 145, I'm pretty quick. Going to play cornerback on varsity next year. But this isnt about me, its about the Gorilla on your team. Did you hear about the story when Ortiz went to the zoo? As he was leaving the zoo, he was shot......with a tranquilizer gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 I am damn fast actually. 5-11 145, I'm pretty quick. Going to play cornerback on varsity next year. But this isnt about me, its about the Gorilla on your team. Did you hear about the story when Ortiz went to the zoo? As he was leaving the zoo, he was shot......with a tranquilizer gun. Rigght.......a varsity player who has never played a lick of football in high school Seeing how you are here everyday at 3:00pm or so - after school - when exactly do you practice? I played Field Hockey in High School and I remember practicing every day for a few hours and getting home after 6:00 - 6:30pm Guess your High School Teams suck. 5'11" and 145 - if you were a chick, you could be a model. However, you say you are a guy - so I suggest you start eating something, for the love of God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Personally, I think it's bull that the MVP will be decided this weekend. David Ortiz has carried the Red Sox the ENTIRE year. A-Rod has not. And, for those that diminish Papi's game winning single last nite - he also blasted a homer into the monster seats to tie the game. So, he tied the game and he won the game. Anything else you want him to do? EB - your gorilla comments smack of racism. Cool it. You want clutch? Here's clutch. A-Rod in September is hitting .327, 7 HR, 24 RBI, 1.009 OPS, not to mention 8 SB's. And for the year, he's hitting .290 w/RISP, .302 w/RISP and 2 outs, and .297 when it's close and late. Of course Ortiz is clutch as well but if you think the Yankees be where they are right now without A-Rod, you're nuts. And oh yes, A-Rod is hitting .400 w/2 HR's and 8 RBI, a .720 SLG% and a 5 stolen bases in the last 7 games. I would say just about every AB in that span has been clutch. Meanwhile Ortiz is hitting .267 w/1 HR and 6 RBI, a .400 SLG and shockingly no stolen bases. Not to forget that A-Rod has played every single game this year and has only 11 errors in 159 games and will win the Gold Glove. Like I said before, he can win a game with his bat AND with his glove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Rigght.......a varsity player who has never played a lick of football in high school Seeing how you are here everyday at 3:00pm or so - after school - when exactly do you practice? I played Field Hockey in High School and I remember practicing every day for a few hours and getting home after 6:00 - 6:30pm Guess your High School Teams suck. 5'11" and 145 - if you were a chick, you could be a model. However, you say you are a guy - so I suggest you start eating something, for the love of God! I'm not playing football this season. I said "next season" as in my Senior year, I will be playing varsity. Hell, I am already faster than most of the kids playing corner, and probably bigger than them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I've been telling you that EB is a racist little scumbag for months now. But I had no idea he was a scrawny little weasel too? I had him pegged as a fatty, ya know, because of his anger and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 I've been telling you that EB is a racist little scumbag for months now. But I had no idea he was a scrawny little weasel too? I had him pegged as a fatty, ya know, because of his anger and all Credit where credit is due. That blast was pretty good. 5'11" and 145? That was me around 14. I was a skinny dude. Then I found beer......... 'nuff said. EB: your Gorilla = Ortiz comments are a little offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 So, it is alleged that the MVP race is between A-Rod and Ortiz. It's allegedly tight. Does tonight put Ortiz in the lead? I mean, Papi gets mad respect at the plate tonight and A-rod makes an error. Who's clutch again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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