Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 This doesn't even explain it that well... the Yankees liked Boyer, but the money it would take to sign him would mean that they'd have to keep him on the Major League roster for 2 years based on the Bonus Rule that had been instituted to keep teams from hoarding talent and stashing them in the minors. Having a contending team and not wanting to waste a roster spot on a developing 18-year old, the Yankees (apparently) had the A's sign Boyer and keep him on the roster for 2 years. Then, just days before his required Major League service time was satisfied, he was sent to the Yankees as a "player to be named later" in a deal the teams had made 4 months earlier. Boyer then spent 3 years in the Yankees farm system before becoming their regular 3B in 1960. The A's eventually admitted to this arrangement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow. Now the whining is retroactive to trades back in the 50's and 60's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow. Now the whining is retroactive to trades back in the 50's and 60's. If you choose to go through the world wearing blinders, that is fine. All we are doing is educating some that may want to learn. If it offends your homeristic tendencies, we apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If you choose to go through the world wearing blinders, that is fine. All we are doing is educating some that may want to learn. If it offends your homeristic tendencies, we apologize. Your name is needle dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Your name is needle dick. We get it ,we get it. Yankee fans have big dicks through their association with their team, any other fans don't. That has become apparent through today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 We get it ,we get it. Yankee fans have big dicks through their association with their team, any other fans don't. That has become apparent through today. Lmao, no just you have a needle dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 We get it ,we get it. Yankee fans have big dicks through their association with their team, any other fans don't. That has become apparent through today. Scott what has become apparent is that you hate the Yankees. Back on topic, regardless of why, HOW many World Series will the Yankees win in a row? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If you choose to go through the world wearing blinders, that is fine. All we are doing is educating some that may want to learn. If it offends your homeristic tendencies, we apologize. Who wants to learn? No one cares about the anti Yankee hate you spew. It's old and tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If you choose to go through the world wearing blinders, that is fine. All we are doing is educating some that may want to learn. If it offends your homeristic tendencies, we apologize. It's not education. It's one side of the the story. You're wasting everyone's time. No one cares, except for the bitter few. It is akin to those still talking about Obama's true birthplace or the Florida recount in Bush's re-election. We've all heard the "waaaaa they spend too much money" B.S. and "waaaa, they took advantage" crap. It's been constantly refuted, so I'm not going to rehash it. You know what the best part is for us? All of this constant whining just extends our Championship celebration. We love it. Absolutely eat it up. So keep it coming. Please. We love it when people make themselves unwittingly look silly and bitter on behalf of their team because they know theirs will never compete with the history of success that this one has. I actually think all the joy of winning constantly might wane a bit if it weren't for all of the comical whining. So to the whiners and haters out there, thank you for keeping the feeling alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Scott what has become apparent is that you hate the Yankees. Back on topic, regardless of why, HOW many World Series will the Yankees win in a row? I have never said otherwise. I also understand now, that a select few don't want to hear that their team has had unfair advantages. So be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 It's not education. It's one side of the the story. You're wasting everyone's time. No one cares, except for the bitter few. It is akin to those still talking about Obama's true birthplace or the Florida recount in Bush's re-election. We've all heard the "waaaaa they spend too much money" B.S. and "waaaa, they took advantage" crap. It's been constantly refuted, so I'm not going to rehash it. You know what the best part is for us? All of this constant whining just extends our Championship celebration. We love it. Absolutely eat it up. So keep it coming. Please. We love it when people make themselves unwittingly look silly and bitter on behalf of their team because they know theirs will never compete with the history of success that this one has. I actually think all the joy of winning constantly might wane a bit if it weren't for all of the comical whining. So to the whiners and haters out there, thank you for keeping the feeling alive. Guido, are you saying the A's WERE NOT on the take with the Yankees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I have never said otherwise. I also understand now, that a select few don't want to hear that their team has had unfair advantages. So be it. You might know what your talking about, but you're cry baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Guido, are you saying the A's WERE NOT on the take with the Yankees? I'm saying it has nothing to do with the 2009 World Champions or the topic of this thread. Not even remotely. But keep whining about it. You're only inflating Yankee fans more. So I guess the other thing I'm saying is "Thank you". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) I'm saying it has nothing to do with the 2009 World Champions or the topic of this thread. Not even remotely. But keep whining about it. You're only inflating Yankee fans more. So I guess the other thing I'm saying is "Thank you". You are welcome. Some of your kin have a strange way of acknowledging this. BTW-Jet fans should never call Patriot fans cheats*, by this line of thinking. Edited November 12, 2009 by Scott Dierking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) I have never said otherwise. I also understand now, that a select few don't want to hear that their team has had unfair advantages. So be it. LOL. And others would contend that the Yankees have won despite certain unfair advantages to them, i.e. the Luxury Tax. With another $27 million of their own hard-earned money back in their own pockets this past offseason, instead of gifted to poorly managed teams like Pittsburgh, the Yankees may have been able to grab one or two more key free agents. Two sides to every story, but you only want to see yours. Edited November 12, 2009 by Guido Monzino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 LOL. And others would contend that the Yankees have won despite certain unfair advantages to them, i.e. the Luxury Tax. With another $27 million of their own hard-earned money back in their own pockets this past offseason, instead of gifted to poorly managed teams like Pittsburgh, the Yankees may have been able to grab one or two more key free agents. Two sides to every story, but you only want to see yours. And we won't ask to be forgiven for having free market ideals. You really believe the luxury tax evens the field? really? How naive are you. Hey, this exists for the Mets, too. I have never said otherwise. It is a poor, poor system of equality. And baseball likes that just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You are welcome. Some of your kin have a strange way of acknowledging this. BTW-Jet fans should never call Patriot fans cheats*, by this line of thinking. Cheating, huh? Guess you missed a key line from your own post: "Now mind you, the Major League Baseball owners approved of all of this." Yeah, just like the Pats. Didn't realize the 1st round pick and millions in fines they got were considered "approval" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You really believe the luxury tax evens the field? really? How naive are you. Hey, this exists for the Mets, too. I have never said otherwise. It is a poor, poor system of equality. And baseball likes that just fine. Again, I didn't say that. Stop puttings words in my mouth (or keyboard?). I said the Luxury Tax is a disadvantage to the Yankees. Do you contend that it isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Cheating, huh? Guess you missed a key line from your own post: "Now mind you, the Major League Baseball owners approved of all of this." Yeah, just like the Pats. Didn't realize the 1st round pick and millions in fines they got were considered "approval" You think it is fair to have teams in cohorts? It isn't cheating if there is no penalty? Do you believe some of the things you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Again, I didn't say that. Stop puttings words in my mouth (or keyboard?). I said the Luxury Tax is a disadvantage to the Yankees. Do you contend that it isn't? Not a disadvantage that levels the field. It is a speed bump that they gladly fly through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Any owner can do what the Steinbrenners do. Spend money to make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Any owner can do what the Steinbrenners do. Spend money to make money. It was quite the other way around with how Steinbrenner did it. "Any" owner is not in the NY market and has the ability to negotiate contracts with that leverage. That is a HUGE advantage. Hey, give the Yanks credit. They are a brand and do it well. But baseball history is littered with them taking advantages of systems, and what most would call cheating at times. Notice that when the baseball draft was instituted, the Yankees had one of their longest droughts of success. Thankfully, for them, free agency came up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 I have never said otherwise. I also understand now, that a select few don't want to hear that their team has had unfair advantages. So be it. Yes because you started the day thinking that everyone wanted to hear this stuff. But now you realize people don't. Keep it up and I am bringing madmike back. Box and one on Dierking, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yes because you started the day thinking that everyone wanted to hear this stuff. But now you realize people don't. Keep it up and I am bringing madmike back. Box and one on Dierking, lol. Max, I know for a fact that they DON'T want to hear it. I am conditioned for that. I will go back to the hole you prefer I stay. I did get the satisfaction that you thought about my penis today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 It was quite the other way around with how Steinbrenner did it. "Any" owner is not in the NY market and has the ability to negotiate contracts with that leverage. That is a HUGE advantage. Hey, give the Yanks credit. They are a brand and do it well. But baseball history is littered with them taking advantages of systems, and what most would call cheating at times. Notice that when the baseball draft was instituted, the Yankees had one of their longest droughts of success. Thankfully, for them, free agency came up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Max, I know for a fact that they DON'T want to hear it. I am conditioned for that. I will go back to the hole you prefer I stay. I did get the satisfaction that you thought about my penis today. Today? lmao, didn't you see the chart in the mods lounge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Why do you all let Scott hijack every thread he posts in about the Yankees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 It was quite the other way around with how Steinbrenner did it. "Any" owner is not in the NY market and has the ability to negotiate contracts with that leverage. That is a HUGE advantage. Hey, give the Yanks credit. They are a brand and do it well. But baseball history is littered with them taking advantages of systems, and what most would call cheating at times. Notice that when the baseball draft was instituted, the Yankees had one of their longest droughts of success. Thankfully, for them, free agency came up Thats not saying much. You WISH the mets could have a drought like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Max, I know for a fact that they DON'T want to hear it. I am conditioned for that. I will go back to the hole you prefer I stay. I did get the satisfaction that you thought about my penis today. You said hole and penis. I just hijacked the thread back from your hijack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Thats not saying much. You WISH the mets could have a drought like that. Barton, at one time, baseball meant a lot to me and it was my passion of sports. To me, it truly is the best sport, if you break it down to its core essence. I was as hardcore Mets as any Yankee fan on this board. Now, I see the sport for what it is, and it is a total shill to the big market franchises. Actually, any sport is, it makes the sport more pertinent and meaningful, by their reckoning. But baseball is the worst at it, and it has always been that way. Do I follow the Mets with a fervent, still? Yes, of course. Bit that fire is tempered greatly because I know, even with all their ineptitude, the field is greatly slanted towards them. Is that fun? Is that sport? Not so much in my mind. It takes away some of the pleasure when things are going well. I fully realize this is only me talking and it is one opinion. But at least you know where I am coming from. I wanted the scorched earth during the last strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Barton, at one time, baseball meant a lot to me and it was my passion of sports. To me, it truly is the best sport, if you break it down to its core essence. I was as hardcore Mets as any Yankee fan on this board. Now, I see the sport for what it is, and it is a total shill to the big market franchises. Actually, any sport is, it makes the sport more pertinent and meaningful, by their reckoning. But baseball is the worst at it, and it has always been that way. Do I follow the Mets with a fervent, still? Yes, of course. Bit that fire is tempered greatly because I know, even with all their ineptitude, the field is greatly slanted towards them. Is that fun? Is that sport? Not so much in my mind. It takes away some of the pleasure when things are going well. I fully realize this is only me talking and it is one opinion. But at least you know where I am coming from. I wanted the scorched earth during the last strike. baseball needs a cap, eventually. but its not the yankees fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 baseball needs a cap, eventually. but its not the yankees fault. I don't blame the Yankees. They can only play the game that is presented to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 It was quite the other way around with how Steinbrenner did it. "Any" owner is not in the NY market and has the ability to negotiate contracts with that leverage. That is a HUGE advantage. Hey, give the Yanks credit. They are a brand and do it well. But baseball history is littered with them taking advantages of systems, and what most would call cheating at times. Notice that when the baseball draft was instituted, the Yankees had one of their longest droughts of success. Thankfully, for them, free agency came up What world do you live in? Come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 What world do you live in? Come on. What do you dispute? Would you call, one team using another as it's own farm system to acquire players illegally and making lopsided trades, cheating? I would love your definition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 baseball needs a cap, eventually. but its not the yankees fault. I can't wait for the cap, really looking forward to it. When the Yankees win the World Series that 1st year the haters will be scrambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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