johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Guy is terrible. Knock on him coming out of combine was that he was a one read QB and could it be any more obvious after yesterday? He looks at his primary, and either throws it (sometimes forces it) or takes off running before diving head first. I've also been saying for months that he lacks arm strength. Best we can hope for is that his football IQ increases and we get another chad pennington... with a 5th overall pick. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 The reads yes agree the arm strength no. I always worried about his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandarinia Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Guy is terrible. Knock on him coming out of combine was that he was a one read QB and could it be any more obvious after yesterday? He looks at his primary, and either throws it (sometimes forces it) or takes off running before diving head first. I've also been saying for months that he lacks arm strength. Best we can hope for is that his football IQ increases and we get another chad pennington... with a 5th overall pick. Disgusting. What were you expecting? Peyton Manning? Give me a break, hes a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGAW Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 How mad were you when he connected with Braylon... It showed his arm strength (in the Meadowlands) his accuracy (it wasn't perfect but it was close) and it showed his ability to play 'forgetful' football after throwing an INT earlier... Those are the flashes you see people talk about. I'm not saying I agree or disagree on how bad he's been and how bad he'll be... I'm simply, just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Common now the guy has played 10 NFL games -you want him to be a Hall Of Famer - give the guy a chance to develop and get better - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGAW Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Common now the guy has played 10 NFL games -you want him to be a Hall Of Famer - give the guy a chance to develop and get better - Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 he has shown flashes and arm strength is definitely NOT an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Common now the guy has played 10 NFL games -you want him to be a Hall Of Famer - give the guy a chance to develop and get better - no, i just want him to not be a moron. How mad were you when he connected with Braylon... It showed his arm strength (in the Meadowlands) his accuracy (it wasn't perfect but it was close) and it showed his ability to play 'forgetful' football after throwing an INT earlier... Those are the flashes you see people talk about. I'm not saying I agree or disagree on how bad he's been and how bad he'll be... I'm simply, just saying here we go, I said something critical i must not be a jets fan! where have you been for the past 40 years of jets football? What were you expecting? Peyton Manning? Give me a break, hes a rookie. i was expecting at least someone who knew how to slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Huh? You guys and girls get the point-this is ridiculous to expect a rookie to be all pro right from the bat-jsut want him to learn and improve as we go on into next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 You guys and girls get the point-this is ridiculous to expect a rookie to be all pro right from the bat-jsut want him to learn and improve as we go on into next season. again, for the reading impaired, i expect him to just not be an idiot. i would also like to see him go through so progressions - not too much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGAW Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 You guys and girls get the point-this is ridiculous to expect a rookie to be all pro right from the bat-jsut want him to learn and improve as we go on into next season. Haha, I absolutely understand... See my earlier post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Haha, I absolutely understand... See my earlier post... real jets fans converge in a circle jerk whenever "phony" jets fans express any degree of disappointment with the team or players, right? i'd say the real fans are the ones who DO get pissed off when the team embarrasses itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGAW Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 here we go, I said something critical i must not be a jets fan! where have you been for the past 40 years of jets football? Relax, Chicken Little... That's not what I was saying at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 all things being equal he could be on winter break from USC right now getting ready for a new years bowl game or maybe even the championship game... and the combine... instead he's 22 years old in week 15 of the NFL season, playing in post blizzard conditions, dealing with two knee injuries and a .500 campaign. It can't be easy. in the big picture this is all good for the kid... let's hope he survives it in one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandarinia Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 i was expecting at least someone who knew how to slide. So you went to questioning his football IQ and his arm strength to now his sliding abilities Give the kid some time to learn before you throw him to the wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Relax, Chicken Little... That's not what I was saying at all Why don't you make an effort to clearly enunciate your point then so we can all share in your sanctimonious sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 A+ troll thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGAW Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 real jets fans converge in a circle jerk whenever "phony" jets fans express any degree of disappointment with the team or players, right? i'd say the real fans are the ones who DO get pissed off when the team embarrasses itself. You obviously don't know me very well... I'm as cynical as they come... The season is over, even though I knew deep down it was over in Miami... I'm going to start looking at the bright side, again... You can join or you can cry... The Colts and the Bengals are merely practice for our young QB to develop... We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 So you went to questioning his football IQ and his arm strength to now his sliding abilities Give the kid some time to learn before you throw him to the wolves. His refusal to slide is actually worse than lack of arm strength. Absent injuries, Chad P could've had a decent career as a game manager. The fact that sanchez refuses to slide even after bringing in Giradi displays something much worse: arrogance, stupidity, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGAW Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Why don't you make an effort to clearly enunciate your point then so we can all share in your sanctimonious sarcasm? Why don't you clearly read the ****ing post I said he demonstrates what he CAN do... Flashes... I didn't proclaim him bust or top tier... I simply said, he shows flashes... How the **** did you possibly find me questioning your fandom in that? But no, it is I who clearly needs to S P E L L it out better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Why don't you clearly read the ****ing post I said he demonstrates what he CAN do... Flashes... I didn't proclaim him bust or top tier... I simply said, he shows flashes... How the **** did you possibly find me questioning your fandom in that? But no, it is I who clearly needs to S P E L L it out better Getting a little defensive? Good, you should. As should anyone who can defend this team right now. Flashes of competence may be acceptable for mid-round picks. For top 10 picks you want to see flashes that this is a guy who can take over a game when he gets more experienced. Stafford has done that this year as did Flacco last year. Couple throws for both of them made you think, "man this kid is going to be dominant one day." Sanchez? Best I can say is this kid might be an above-average game manager one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandarinia Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 real jets fans converge in a circle jerk whenever "phony" jets fans express any degree of disappointment with the team or players, right? i'd say the real fans are the ones who DO get pissed off when the team embarrasses itself. Who are you to question other peoples fanage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 His arm strength is not in question I think-65 yard passes in winds of the Meadowlands -attack him if you want on not looking for secondary receivers at this stage of his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 There was no bill of goods sold on Sanchez. He was a slightly undersized, woefully inexperienced prospect with a solid but unspectacular arm. If you feel you were deceived, it's only because you failed to recognize that he's the biggest boom-bust QB prospect since Vince Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Who are you to question other peoples fanage? Oy. Go to Webster's and look up sarcasm. His arm strength is not in question I think-65 yard passes in winds of the Meadowlands -attack him if you want on not looking for secondary receivers at this stage of his development. So glad you're here to define what is or is not acceptable criticism for a team I bleed green for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 The fact that sanchez refuses to slide even after bringing in Giradi displays something much worse: arrogance, stupidity, or both. I agree that it's not good but let's hope he's not dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 There was no bill of goods sold on Sanchez. He was a slightly undersized, woefully inexperienced prospect with a solid but unspectacular arm. If you feel you were deceived, it's only because you failed to recognize that he's the biggest boom-bust QB prospect since Vince Young. lol great post hey have ya seen Vince Young lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 I agree that it's not good but let's hope he's not dumb. I can chalk up a lot to inexperience but refusing to slide isn't one of them given all Rex has done to order him to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 all things being equal .. i get nervous when bit starts in with the math.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 lol great post hey have ya seen Vince Young lately? Of course--I'm not hating on Sanchez, I'm just saying he was never this can't-miss, no-risk prospect. His lack of experience means his floor is at least as as low as his ceiling is high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGAW Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Getting a little defensive? Good, you should. As should anyone who can defend this team right now. Flashes of competence may be acceptable for mid-round picks. For top 10 picks you want to see flashes that this is a guy who can take over a game when he gets more experienced. Stafford has done that this year as did Flacco last year. Couple throws for both of them made you think, "man this kid is going to be dominant one day." Sanchez? Best I can say is this kid might be an above-average game manager one day. Flashes are all you have to judge a rookie... When they're not showing those, they're usually, shocking as it may seem..................Acting like a rookie... Read progression, footwork and hip placement can all be taught... Arm strength, accuracy and amnesia usually can't be... He's shown flashes of all... That's all we have to go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 If you want to tear sanchez apart =that is your right-mark me down as being in the negative on that- I give a guy a chance to develop and hopefully learn as a first year player should be expected to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 real jets fans converge in a circle jerk whenever "phony" jets fans express any degree of disappointment with the team or players, right? i'd say the real fans are the ones who DO get pissed off when the team embarrasses itself. Whats funny is that when you logged in today, you seemed to think that the general mood around Sanchez was a positive one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 If you want to tear sanchez apart =that is your right-mark me down as being in the negative on that- I give a guy a chance to develop and hopefully learn as a first year player should be expected to do. You might be the only long time Jets fan who is able to do that given the collective heartbreak we've endured for longer than my entire lifetime. Whats funny is that when you logged in today, you seemed to think that the general mood around Sanchez was a positive one. Wrong. I give JN'ers more credit than to be that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I do have to laugh it off-when people pass judgement on whether you are real fan or not based on your opinions-just saying- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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