Guido Monzino Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 And Vicious ends thread. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Uh, go to New Orleans, then talk. That city is changed forever because of Katrina. Parts of the city still look like it was just hit yesterday. The fans of that city deserve this, and there's no reason to not use that as a human interest story. Actually there's a whole panoply of reasons, starting with the one you list in the first sentence of your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 i can definitely be a douche but it has nothing to do with the media's specious "connection" of a weather phenomenon with a game played over 4 years after the event. it was a story in the season after the hurricane but not a half a decade later. Sounds to me like you're looking for something to be upset about, and you've found it. You should be happy. That is, if you weren't so upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 And Vicious ends thread. Thank you. Couldn't agree more G.M. Thank you Vicious! CURTAINS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Pats are hated because they cheated!!! New Orleans on the other hand is a great story Did you even read this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejetsaddict Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 IMO, FEMA really demonstrated their incompetence with their mishandling of Katrina, although people in Biloxi, Mississippi are REALLY the ones who should be pissed off. Bush handled 9/11 magnificently in comparison. IBTL! ZING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Can you imagine the horror that would have befallen NO if Saints had lost? But thankfully NO won and all is well again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Can you imagine the horror that would have befallen NO if Saints had lost? But thankfully NO won and all is well again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I have been to New Orleans a couple of times in the last couple of years-most people there were so nice and thankful for out of towners to come to their city. So let them have some joy in a saints victory for a city that was ravaged and still parts ravaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I have been to New Orleans a couple of times in the last couple of years-most people there were so nice and thankful for out of towners to come to their city. So let them have some joy in a saints victory for a city that was ravaged and still parts ravaged. Yeah the whole city was completely ravaged. Something all of us pray NEVER happens to us. I can't see taking issue with it being a story while their team made a SB run and won it. It's not like they brought this disaster on themselvs and asked for a major story line. Sympathy for the unfortunate is understandable and it is a great story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Uh, go to New Orleans, then talk. That city is changed forever because of Katrina. Parts of the city still look like it was just hit yesterday. The fans of that city deserve this, and there's no reason to not use that as a human interest story. This thread is downright stupid. I live in Florida, in an area that is not likely to be leveled by a hurricane (knock on wood), but you know what? If it were to happen, I carry hurricane insurance and flood insurance on my property because I am a responsible adult who plans ahead. I am sick and tired of reading about communities who have a three day notice of an impending natural disaster and then want us to feel sorry when it hits them and they don't have the means to rebuild. If everyone would place the blame for their lot in life with the person who stares at them in the mirror each day, this country would be a much better place. I can step off my soapbox, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I live in Florida, in an area that is not likely to be leveled by a hurricane (knock on wood), but you know what? If it were to happen, I carry hurricane insurance and flood insurance on my property because I am a responsible adult who plans ahead. I am sick and tired of reading about communities who have a three day notice of an impending natural disaster and then want us to feel sorry when it hits them and they don't have the means to rebuild. If everyone would place the blame for their lot in life with the person who stares at them in the mirror each day, this country would be a much better place. I can step off my soapbox, now. Oh yea, that's sensible. Considering that everyone in the 9th ward and the poorest areas of NO that were hit the worst have the means to afford both of those insurances... As a responsible adult I'm hoping and praying that mother nature never makes you eat your words. There's much more than material things that can be taken away from you and in such cases your insurance wouldn't mean jack!!! And anyway it's probably not a good idea to ASSume that anyone wants us to feel sorry for them. Some of these folks are very dignified people who just happened to fall on some hard times by the hand of God. Here's hoping that same hand doesn't smack you off that soapbox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 post counts..gotta love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 This is the exact point at which the Katrina gayfest crosses the line. Meh, cynicism's played out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I tried this thread last week, and it ended badly.......so badly, Max had to close it. Yes a Mod closing a mod's thread. This will end badly too when one of the following Tags are used: 1) 9/11 2) Bush 3) Mississippi 4) Incompetence 5) FEMA I am not a mod. I am the Landlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I live in Florida, in an area that is not likely to be leveled by a hurricane (knock on wood), but you know what? If it were to happen, I carry hurricane insurance and flood insurance on my property because I am a responsible adult who plans ahead. I am sick and tired of reading about communities who have a three day notice of an impending natural disaster and then want us to feel sorry when it hits them and they don't have the means to rebuild. If everyone would place the blame for their lot in life with the person who stares at them in the mirror each day, this country would be a much better place. I can step off my soapbox, now. So you're saying they deserved it. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Did you even read this thread?They still cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 So you're saying they deserved it. Nice. Nope, just that poor planners leave it up to the masses to clean up their mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Some of these folks are very dignified people who just happened to fall on some hard times by the hand of God. I guess even God agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Meh, cynicism's played out. The idea that a sports championship somehow salves the pain of losing homes, possessions, and relatives is not only brainlessly glib, it's monstrously insulting. Don't use the cynicism boogeyman to defend the Jim Grays of the world against those of us who can think. You're better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 The idea that a sports championship somehow salves the pain of losing homes, possessions, and relatives is not only brainlessly glib, it's monstrously insulting. Don't use the cynicism boogeyman to defend the Jim Grays of the world against those of us who can think. You're better than that. I think the issue mainly lies in the fact that some people believe that this is going to cure everything. Or that people think that other people believe that. And perhaps the media is playing it up to be that. The point of my post was to illustrate was that due to all that **** they went through this for just a VERY BRIEF moment in time allows a city who experienced an insane amount of tragedy something very positive. I dunno, for me I liken it to my x vs my wife. My x was a nightmare, the girl ruined me and my self esteem and everything terrible in the world. I met my wife and because of my previous experiences, I savor every moment of her and because of my past I can appreciate it more. I don't know if that makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Uh, go to New Orleans, then talk. That city is changed forever because of Katrina. Parts of the city still look like it was just hit yesterday. The fans of that city deserve this, and there's no reason to not use that as a human interest story. This thread is downright stupid. hey parts of philly look they were just hit by a hurricane too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Meh, cynicism's played out. I just think there's a pretty expansive middle ground between begrudging them their bandwagon and jumping on. Remember 'we are all New Yorkers?' The ****ing hell they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 The idea that a sports championship somehow salves the pain of losing homes, possessions, and relatives is not only brainlessly glib, it's monstrously insulting. Don't use the cynicism boogeyman to defend the Jim Grays of the world against those of us who can think. You're better than that. I don't think that anyone is claiming that this fixes anything. The point is that is a temporary moment of escape. A fleeting moment of joy where just for a second they can maybe forget what is still going on. Even if that is only 1 second, it's worth it. Good for them, they deserve it. What is ultimately "brainless" and "insulting" is whining about it. What is the point? If you don't like it, STFU and change the channel. What are we saying? That if you experience some tragedy in life, there's no point in ever trying to find little joys in life afterwards, because at the end of the day, you still have to deal with the bigger problem? Why not just kill yourself then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Why not just kill yourself then? You first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I don't think that anyone is claiming that this fixes anything. The point is that is a temporary moment of escape. A fleeting moment of joy where just for a second they can maybe forget what is still going on. Even if that is only 1 second, it's worth it. Good for them, they deserve it. What is ultimately "brainless" and "insulting" is whining about it. What is the point? If you don't like it, STFU and change the channel. What are we saying? That if you experience some tragedy in life, there's no point in ever trying to find little joys in life afterwards, because at the end of the day, you still have to deal with the bigger problem? Why not just kill yourself then? Great points by both you and Vicious in this thread. I dont care how long ago Katrina was... That entire city was ravaged, communities torn apart, infectious diseases and micro-organisms everywhere...Dead bodies lying rotting in what used to be main streets. Im sorry, but being involved in those memories and that type of catastrophe is not something you just "move on" from. Almost all of us will remember the events of 9/11 for the rest of our lives...Where we were, when we first heard about it, and the combined emotions of shock and sadness that went through all of our minds as we turned on the tv's and radios and watched/listened to the tragedy unfolding. Yet, for most of us, that tragedy did not directly effect us and our everyday life. We did not have to find shelter because our homes had been destroyed... We did not have to worry about catching infectious diseases and smell the rotting bodies of friends and family in the streets when you walked outside... No, the Saints winning the Superbowl doesn't fix anything. It doesn't bring back the people who died... It doesn't rebuild the families and communities destroyed. All it does is gives the people of NO something to hope for... Something to even be somewhat excited about. Something the entire city can be excited about, together. Remember, 4 or 5 years ago it was a question whether the SuperDome would ever be able to host another football game again, or if New Orleans would ever be a place capable of hosting an NFL franchise again. The Saints defied the odds and are now Super Bowl champions, playing in their very own SuperDome, which also was the shelter of some thousands of dislocated people four and a half years ago. Does that mean the rest of New Orleans and its people will defy the odds and come back just as glorious? Of course not. Does it give them that small sliver of hope that doing so is a small possibility? Of course it does. When tragedy strikes... People affected naturally look for comfort and unity. They found both in rooting for the Saints. I am proud of their joy and unison in doing so, and am even more proud of hearing the Saints players talk about how much of an honor it was to win it for the city that has rallied behind them and supported them every step of the way despite all they had gone through. Its a great story, whether you are sick of it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I think the issue mainly lies in the fact that some people believe that this is going to cure everything. Or that people think that other people believe that. And perhaps the media is playing it up to be that. The point of my post was to illustrate was that due to all that **** they went through this for just a VERY BRIEF moment in time allows a city who experienced an insane amount of tragedy something very positive. I dunno, for me I liken it to my x vs my wife. My x was a nightmare, the girl ruined me and my self esteem and everything terrible in the world. I met my wife and because of my previous experiences, I savor every moment of her and because of my past I can appreciate it more. I don't know if that makes any sense. It makes complete sense. This is pretty much my viewpoint as well. I don't think that anyone is claiming that this fixes anything. The point is that is a temporary moment of escape. A fleeting moment of joy where just for a second they can maybe forget what is still going on. Even if that is only 1 second, it's worth it. Good for them, they deserve it. What is ultimately "brainless" and "insulting" is whining about it. What is the point? If you don't like it, STFU and change the channel. What are we saying? That if you experience some tragedy in life, there's no point in ever trying to find little joys in life afterwards, because at the end of the day, you still have to deal with the bigger problem? Why not just kill yourself then? I think we're arguing the same point. I'm glad the Saints won, but mainly because the team has sucked even harder than we have for even longer than we have and seeing Tom F***ing Benson hoisting the Lombardi gives me hope. My entire point is nothing more than the fact that sports have nothing to do with "deserving." Katrina was a major tragedy; Super Bowl XLIV was a relatively minor fortuity. The only insulting part is that plenty of media people would have us believe that the two are basically equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I guess even God agree with me. Yea sure buddy... You keep telling yourself that, if it makes everyday more livable... I do wonder what God you are speaking about though. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 it won't be fair to the citizens of new orleans if the saints lose jimmy graham. haven't they suffered enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Wtf happened to vicious? Life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Oh my.......This thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Wtf happened to vicious? Life? He's cool. Had another kid and he's working like a maniac from my understanding, so he's probably just way too busy to internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Don't want to scroll back. Did I say anything stupid in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Don't want to scroll back. Did I say anything stupid in this thread? Just check if you posted in it, the rest is a safe assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Wtf happened to vicious? Life? He's cool. Had another kid and he's working like a maniac from my understanding, so he's probably just way too busy to internet. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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