SoFlaJets Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Jets showing some interest in Colts S Antoine Bethea, source says. Could be exploratory talks, considering Bethea is RFA with 1st rnd tender...per Cimini's Tweet http://www.nfl.com/players/antoinebethea/profile?id=BET074391 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I really like Bethea, but not for a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 that dude is awesome....but i agree ...not for a 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I don't get it, there's no way we give up a first for him so why... what is this about then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think there is already a thread on this but I really like Bethea, but not for a 1st round pick. I may be totally wrong and would love some clarification, but can't the jets go to the colts and negotiate something other than the tender compensation? Doesn't this sometimes happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 I agree with HS and Stan-too high of a price-maybe a trade-HAVE we ever made a deal with Indianapolis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I may be totally wrong and would love some clarification, but can't the jets go to the colts and negotiate something other than the tender compensation? Doesn't this sometimes happen? I don't know either Joe. You would think they would be able to negotiate. If someone smarter could please pipe in here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 I don't get it, there's no way we give up a first for him so why... what is this about then? this is about Rich Nostradamus's' latest tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I believe the team could retract the tender and negotiate a trade on different terms. Obviously, don't quote me. I love Bethea. Very physical, plays angry and is a real football player. What about Rhodes for Bethea? It makes sense for both teams: The Colts have a big hitter in Bob Sanders coming back to complement Rhodes' non-contact game and they also are always playing with a lead, so Rhodes can do what he does best--range around and try to pick off balls downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I may be totally wrong and would love some clarification, but can't the jets go to the colts and negotiate something other than the tender compensation? Doesn't this sometimes happen? Yeah we can. The first round tender doesn't stop the Colts from trading the player for whatever compensation they want. If we go after him I doubt it's for a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I believe the team could retract the tender and negotiate a trade on different terms. Obviously, don't quote me. I love Bethea. Very physical, plays angry and is a real football player. What about Rhodes for Bethea? It makes sense for both teams: The Colts have a big hitter in Bob Sanders coming back to complement Rhodes' non-contact game and they also are always playing with a lead, so Rhodes can do what he does best--range around and try to pick off balls downfield. Rhodes would fit in perfectly in Indianapolis' bend-don't-break defense. I'd love a swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I believe the team could retract the tender and negotiate a trade on different terms. Obviously, don't quote me. I love Bethea. Very physical, plays angry and is a real football player. What about Rhodes for Bethea? It makes sense for both teams: The Colts have a big hitter in Bob Sanders coming back to complement Rhodes' non-contact game and they also are always playing with a lead, so Rhodes can do what he does best--range around and try to pick off balls downfield. I think this is right. I read somewhere the other day that the reason so many players got tender was not for the expectation that teams would get the picks in return if they signed elsewhere as RFA's but to basically set the bar for negotiation in what promised to be a post-season FULL of trades... and not nearly as much spending as many anticipated. So the Jets sniff around, offer the Colts a lower pick and a player? Or something to that effect. Bethea would be a great acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 I think this is right. I read somewhere the other day that the reason so many players got tender was not for the expectation that teams would get the picks in return if they signed elsewhere as RFA's but to basically set the bar for negotiation in what promised to be a post-season FULL of trades... and not nearly as much spending as many anticipated. So the Jets sniff around, offer the Colts a lower pick and a player? Or something to that effect. Bethea would be a great acquisition. and wouldn't this spell the end of Kerry Rhodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 The JETS are gonna take Bethea promise the Colts that we wont steamroll their asses next time we play them and leave Manning on his back for dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 and wouldn't this spell the end of Kerry Rhodes? Yes. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I don't get it, there's no way we give up a first for him so why... what is this about then? This is about ... bull sh-t. The rumor is garbage. It makes no sense from the Jets perspective. None. But since the Jets are very active in FA/trades historically, their name is always thrown out there in these sort of things. Going after Bethea makes ZERO sense for the Jets based on the monetary and draft compensation involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Yes. Love it. Ditto, at this point for me after we replace him it's all iceing on the cake this offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 This is about ... bull sh-t. The rumor is garbage. It makes no sense from the Jets perspective. None. But since the Jets are very active in FA/trades historically, their name is always thrown out there in these sort of things. Going after Bethea makes ZERO sense for the Jets based on the monetary and draft compensation involved. It actually makes perfect sense. We work out a trade with the Colts that won't involve a 1st rounder and get a safety who will make our secondary by far the best in the league. The Colts defense has always started sucking majorly when Sanders got hurt but Bethea actually held them together even then. He is a legit safety and young as hell for the position. There is absolutely no reason why Jet fans shouldn't be ecstatic at the prospect of getting him. Signing him also makes the ***** rhodes completely expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I believe the team could retract the tender and negotiate a trade on different terms. Obviously, don't quote me. I love Bethea. Very physical, plays angry and is a real football player. What about Rhodes for Bethea? It makes sense for both teams: The Colts have a big hitter in Bob Sanders coming back to complement Rhodes' non-contact game and they also are always playing with a lead, so Rhodes can do what he does best--range around and try to pick off balls downfield. The hangup is that Bob Sanders is always "coming back." Why would they trade a valuable kid like this when Sanders' attendance record is so uncertain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I may be totally wrong and would love some clarification, but can't the jets go to the colts and negotiate something other than the tender compensation? Doesn't this sometimes happen? Yes. John Abraham slapped with franchise tag (two firsts) and we took one first instead. Justin McC*****s was tagged by Tennessee for a first rounder but we traded a 2nd for him. Countless other examples around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Rhodes would fit in perfectly in Indianapolis' bend-don't-break defense. I'd love a swap. Unfortunately, they've probably watched all the film on him and realize that bend not break is different from run away and giggle. I'd think I died and went to heaven if Tanny could pull this off - I just don't see us getting that lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 This is about ... bull sh-t. The rumor is garbage. It makes no sense from the Jets perspective. None. But since the Jets are very active in FA/trades historically, their name is always thrown out there in these sort of things. Going after Bethea makes ZERO sense for the Jets based on the monetary and draft compensation involved. yea you are an expert Bethea is a great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 yea you are an expert Bethea is a great player He would thrive in this environment too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I believe the team could retract the tender and negotiate a trade on different terms. Obviously, don't quote me. I love Bethea. Very physical, plays angry and is a real football player. What about Rhodes for Bethea? It makes sense for both teams: The Colts have a big hitter in Bob Sanders coming back to complement Rhodes' non-contact game and they also are always playing with a lead, so Rhodes can do what he does best--range around and try to pick off balls downfield. Geezus if you guys lose Rhodes and get Bethea EVERY other freakin' team in the AFC will be praying your offense falls apart so we'll have a shot at beating ya's 6-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 so what's it gonna take to get this guy now that Rhodes is gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigL Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 We need to get him, or trade up and get Eric Berry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Geezus if you guys lose Rhodes and get Bethea EVERY other freakin' team in the AFC will be praying your offense falls apart so we'll have a shot at beating ya's 6-3. Tell 'em, Paul. A Steelers fan know the importance of a hard-hitting safety on a big-time defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 Tell 'em, Paul. A Steelers fan know the importance of a hard-hitting safety on a big-time defense! MOST of us already knew that TS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 MOST of us already knew that TS.... I hear ya, Jimmy. But you know Jets fans--they looooove their home-grown guys, warts and all. You have to love the loyalty, even when it's a wee bit misguided! I used to rage when Kyle Clifton would be snubbed for the Pro Bowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 ANTOINE BETHEA, COME ON DOWN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 7, 2010 Author Share Posted March 7, 2010 I hear ya, Jimmy. But you know Jets fans--they looooove their home-grown guys, warts and all. You have to love the loyalty, even when it's a wee bit misguided! I used to rage when Kyle Clifton would be snubbed for the Pro Bowl! I think we're starting to get away from that mindset TS...most of us (here anyway) are super critical and call out the under-achievers on the team as soon as it shows. But yea, it was like that for years on the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I dont want to, but if we have to, i'm trading TomShane in the deal here. He's gotta be worth at least a 6th rder in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 They have a first round tender on Beatha. They would probably take a 2nd. We get a 4th for Rhodes and give up a 2 nd for Beatha. I think we lose a lot of value there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Tell 'em, Paul. A Steelers fan know the importance of a hard-hitting safety on a big-time defense! Gotta admit i'm impressed at how the Jets are being so aggressive in identifying weaknesss and upgrading your team. Let's see what else they got up their sleeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigL Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Tell 'em, Paul. A Steelers fan know the importance of a hard-hitting safety on a big-time defense! LMAO I hope you dont mean Troy Polamalu and his ankle tackling skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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