D-Rex and Jay Feely?

[Kentucky Jet]

Rex Ryan unsure about bringing Jay Feely back

Mar 25 3/25/2010 4:05:58 PM | More

Manish Mehta of the Newark Star Ledger reports Jets coach Rex Ryan was cryptic about whether unrestricted free agent kicker Jay Feely will return. Feely visited the Arizona Cardinals last weekend.

[ToonTime]

FuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuCK!!!

[aec4]

The Jets obviously want someone to sign Feely so they can sign a FA.

If noone signs him, then I think they'll bring him back by camp and have him compete. He'll probably beat Folk, although Folk was good at one time. Last year, he was bad.

I do think Feely is overhyped on this board though.

[Joey Jet]

Don't understand this at all.

[Stonehands]

Don't understand this at all.

Read the post immediately above yours for an explaination.

[Joey Jet]

Read the post immediately above yours for an explaination.

I do understand that this is their thinking i just don't think you should mess too much with team chemistry.

I don't think you can underestimate Feely's contribution to this team. He's more then just a kicker. He is an emergency punter, good ST player, etc.

With the paltry sum Feely will sign for i can't see us signing a guy that will have as much impact as Feely can.

[aec4]

I do understand that this is their thinking i just don't think you should mess too much with team chemistry.

I don't think you can underestimate Feely's contribution to this team. He's more then just a kicker. He is an emergency punter, good ST player, etc.

With the paltry sum Feely will sign for i can't see us signing a guy that will have as much impact as Feely can.

1) Most kickers are emergency punters. He did a good job, but let's not overhype that. ALL KICKERS practice punting during the week (and punters kicking) just in case

2) Actually, Feely causes as many issues as he solves in special teams. He's out of position A LOT. That means coverage is sometimes compromised if the returner gets by. The Kicker needs to be a safety valve to at least slow down the returner some. See the Miami game as evidence (although Woodhead is more to blame) as an example of Feely being out of position.

3) Feely will sign for 1.5-2M in the 1st year. If we sign someone for 5 years using 2M as the 1st year salary, we can offer them a 5 year, 18M contract. Doesn't seem so small anymore does it? We just signed our starting safety for 1.3M.

[flgreen]

I agree

　

I wonder who the FA they have targeted is? Can

[Maxman]

I do understand that this is their thinking i just don't think you should mess too much with team chemistry.

I don't think you can underestimate Feely's contribution to this team. He's more then just a kicker. He is an emergency punter, good ST player, etc.

With the paltry sum Feely will sign for i can't see us signing a guy that will have as much impact as Feely can.

I like Feely and he had a good year. He also had a terrible AFC Championship game and his kickoffs aren't great.

If nobody signs him you bring him back and let him compete. But if they can swap out Feely and sign another FA in return you have to explore that opportunity.

[Joey Jet]

1) Most kickers are emergency punters. He did a good job, but let's not overhype that. ALL KICKERS practice punting during the week (and punters kicking) just in case

2) Actually, Feely causes as many issues as he solves in special teams. He's out of position A LOT. That means coverage is sometimes compromised if the returner gets by. The Kicker needs to be a safety valve to at least slow down the returner some. See the Miami game as evidence (although Woodhead is more to blame) as an example of Feely being out of position.

3) Feely will sign for 1.5-2M in the 1st year. If we sign someone for 5 years using 2M as the 1st year salary, we can offer them a 5 year, 18M contract. Doesn't seem so small anymore does it? We just signed our starting safety for 1.3M.

I guess you're right. Maybe i'm thinking more with my heart and not my head. I just hate the thought of holding my breath every time Folk lines up for a "chip shot".

[aec4]

I guess you're right. Maybe i'm thinking more with my heart and not my head. I just hate the thought of holding my breath every time Folk lines up for a "chip shot".

Feely missed his share of chip shots too

[Joey Jet]

Feely missed his share of chip shots too

Again, you're right but i'm sure if you needed a guy to make an important kick in a big game Feely would be the choice over Folk every time.

[Damaged89]

Again, you're right but i'm sure if you needed a guy to make an important kick in a big game Feely would be the choice over Folk every time.

Eh.. Feeley is a notorious choke artist. Kickers are pretty random from year to year, so there is no guarantee that Folk won't revert to being good again, or that Feeley is going to have another solid season.

[Kentucky Jet]

Eh.. Feeley is a notorious choke artist. Kickers are pretty random from year to year, so there is no guarantee that Folk won't revert to being good again, or that Feeley is going to have another solid season.

I agree with you. Folk is young and has a strong leg. He aslo has made the pro bowl. There is no guarantee with Feely. I like the team chemistry angle too but maybe he is a pain in the butt in the lockerroom. We don't know; Rex does.

[Stonehands]

Pro Bowl Tally: Folk 1 Feely 0

[jack48]

The Jets obviously want someone to sign Feely so they can sign a FA.

If noone signs him, then I think they'll bring him back by camp and have him compete. He'll probably beat Folk, although Folk was good at one time. Last year, he was bad.

I do think Feely is overhyped on this board though.

Those indoor misses in Indy bug me. looked like the old Feely all over again.

[Ghost]

The Jets obviously want someone to sign Feely so they can sign a FA.

If noone signs him, then I think they'll bring him back by camp and have him compete. He'll probably beat Folk, although Folk was good at one time. Last year, he was bad.

I do think Feely is overhyped on this board though.

As a Feely supporter, I don't think he's a great kicker. I just think he's a kicker we can trust. Nick Folk, I don't trust. End of discussion.

[stoicsentry]

Feely missed his share of chip shots too

Not last year. Last year he missed like, what, 5 fgs all season?

[greenerdaze]

2) Actually, Feely causes as many issues as he solves in special teams. He's out of position A LOT. That means coverage is sometimes compromised if the returner gets by. The Kicker needs to be a safety valve to at least slow down the returner some. See the Miami game as evidence (although Woodhead is more to blame) as an example of Feely being out of position.

Not to mention, 10 other Jets were out of position to make those tackles! Besides, that doesn't outweigh all the good Feely's done.

I guess you're right. Maybe i'm thinking more with my heart and not my head.

No, you're thinking with your head just fine. The rest who eat Elmer's Glue and focus on Feely's spotty past are following their hearts, or lack thereof.

2009 Kicking Stats & Rankings

Feely (rank: 3rd/NFL) was 12-14 (85%) from 40+ yards on the season; longest 55 (Ginn-Miami game).

Folk (rank: 25th/NFL) was 6-14 (42%) from 40+ yards; longest 51.

Who would you rather have on your final drive, or in OT?

[NOTE]:

Feely: scored 10 of NY's 16 pts to beat NE in Week Two; scored 13 of NY's 19 pts to beat Buffalo in Week Thirteen. Two huge divisional wins.

[aec4]

Not last year. Last year he missed like, what, 5 fgs all season?

Mike Smith of the Falcons agrees. Feely didn't miss any chip shots last year.

[El Gringo Loco]

Mike Smith of the Falcons agrees. Feely didn't miss any chip shots last year.

Are you talking about the 38 yarder that Feely missed in the Jets Falccons game?

[aec4]

Are you talking about the 38 yarder that Feely missed in the Jets Falccons game?

yes, among others, and from 38 there are NO EXCUSES. Don't tell me the snap didn't hit the middle of the bullseye. Clemens got it down. KICK IT THE F THROUGH. How about the 37 yarder that was blocked. ITS 37 YARDS GET IT THE F UP.

Now Feely is a good kicker, but he's not an all pro. He's not even the best in our division... Hell, I'd say he's last in our division.

[El Gringo Loco]

yes, among others, and from 38 there are NO EXCUSES. Don't tell me the snap didn't hit the middle of the bullseye. Clemens got it down. KICK IT THE F THROUGH. How about the 37 yarder that was blocked. ITS 37 YARDS GET IT THE F UP.

Now Feely is a good kicker, but he's not an all pro. He's not even the best in our division... Hell, I'd say he's last in our division.

Feely missed 1 field goal that day as far as I remember, the 38. You can't blame a blocked kick on the kicker if the line lets a defender in the backfield immediately. The 38 was on Feely, and a 38 aint no chipshot. That said, Feely is a kicker, if the Jets find a solid replacement, I won't cry over loosing him.

[kelticwizard]

The 38 was on Feely, and a 38 aint no chipshot. That said, Feely is a kicker, if the Jets find a solid replacement, I won't cry over loosing him.

Actually, you and I are pretty close in our assessment of Feeley-okay to have, but no great shakes to lose-but I want to deal with the 38 yards issue.

If the kicker is kicking from the 38, the line of scrimmage is the 21 yard line-end zone is 10 yards deep. I feel if a team moves the ball all the way down to the 21, they damn well have given their field goal kicker a chip shot, unless we are dealing with gale force winds or some special circumstance.

How close do you feel you have to get the ball to the goal line to have a chip shot? The 10?

[El Gringo Loco]

Actually, you and I are pretty close in our assessment of Feeley-okay to have, but no great shakes to lose-but I want to deal with the 38 yards issue.

If the kicker is kicking from the 38, the line of scrimmage is the 21 yard line-end zone is 10 yards deep. I feel if a team moves the ball all the way down to the 21, they damn well have given their field goal kicker a chip shot, unless we are dealing with gale force winds or some special circumstance.

How close do you feel you have to get the ball to the goal line to have a chip shot? The 10?

A 38 is certainly a manageable distance, but I wouldn't call it a chip shot. The 10 sounds about right to be considered automatic, I would call a 27-28 yarder a chip shot. If your offense gets to the 21, I agree, The offense has put the field goal unit in a great position to succeed, but I would not get off of the couch to grab a beer thinking a 38 was such a tiny little field goal that the ball should just go right through with no worry.

To be honest, I'm not knowledgeable about NFL stats and percentages. Do you know the chances of a 38 going through in the NFL?

[aec4]

Inside the 40 needs to be automatic, especially for a team that is going to play close games. 38 on TURF even moreso needs to be automatic.

in a dome, I take 8 yards off every FG when considering if they should be automatic.

[Jetsfan80]

The fact that we're quibbling about Feely's one "bad miss" from 38 yards tells me we need to bring him back. If we're going to destroy Feely for 2 "bad games", we should be destroying Folk for a terrible season in sum.

And if you want to argue that Feely is a poor KOS, well, Folk doesn't even do kickoffs.

[T0mShane]

I'm thinking that the way the Jets are doing Feely here, similar to the way they did Thomas Jones, Kerry Rhodes and to a certain extent Leon Washington, says more about what Rex wants to do in the locker room moreso than anything taking place on the field. All of them are useful players, but all of them have been essentially thrown out onto the street despite there being no cap next year. It looks like Rex is just cleaning up the clubhouse.

[aec4]

The fact that we're quibbling about Feely's one "bad miss" from 38 yards tells me we need to bring him back. If we're going to destroy Feely for 2 "bad games", we should be destroying Folk for a terrible season in sum.

And if you want to argue that Feely is a poor KOS, well, Folk doesn't even do kickoffs.

Dallas drafted someone who was amazing at kickoffs which is why.

Feelys 2 bad games almost cost us the playoffs and cost us a real good shot at the super bowl... so yes, we're going to complain. His poor special teams play cost us another game against Miami too.