Larz Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I'm assuming we're done, with impact players anyway so how did we do ? Kyle Wilson, CB Vladimir the inhaler, OG/RT Braylon Edwards WR Joe McKnight RB Santonio Holmes WR the terminator, FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 might as well include faneca and Leon moving on as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 A sloid B, all good moves IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I clicked B, but then I thought about it for another second... its an A. Most teams don't get 2 quality players out of a draft, we managed to get 2 WRs that are already past the "3rd year" benchmark for when receivers usually "get it" at the NFL level. Add that to a CB, OG, RB and FB... 3 of which are positions that RARELY produce busts, and I'd say this was a better than good draft. Also, consider that just about every comment I have heard about our draft from the "experts" is that we got great value with all 4 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 C, not a big fan of trading up for a RB/FB and losing Faneca/Leon. Love the Wilson pick though. I know it's not cool to question the CS on here, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I'm usually very critical of our drafts, but considering Holmes and Edwards, this can't be anything but an A+. Not to happy about Faneca, even though I never loved his signing. We are going for it this year. Why not keep him around for 1 more year? But the great thing is, now that we have Tanny running the show, I don't have to worry about questionable decisions anymore. I know Tanny has a reason why he did it. ALL HAIL TANNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 C, not a big fan of trading up for a RB/FB and losing Faneca/Leon. Love the Wilson pick though. I know it's not cool to question the CS on here, but whatever. Losing Faneca was not a draft move... it was a contract move. We've got quite a few players to pay on the horizon... keep Faneca or pay Mangold??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Losing Faneca was not a draft move... it was a contract move. We've got quite a few players to pay on the horizon... keep Faneca or pay Mangold??? Isn't Faneca still walking away with 5.25Mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 C, not a big fan of trading up for a RB/FB and losing Faneca/Leon. Love the Wilson pick though. I know it's not cool to question the CS on here, but whatever. hey, I started this thread to get all opinions, I'm expecting a few F's to creep in, and not just from the trolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I clicked B, but then I thought about it for another second... its an A. Most teams don't get 2 quality players out of a draft, we managed to get 2 WRs that are already past the "3rd year" benchmark for when receivers usually "get it" at the NFL level. Add that to a CB, OG, RB and FB... 3 of which are positions that RARELY produce busts, and I'd say this was a better than good draft. Also, consider that just about every comment I have heard about our draft from the "experts" is that we got great value with all 4 picks. Word, thinking about it that way, I change my B to an A too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 With the trades it's an A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I'm giving an A when you include all the trades that have been made using this years picks. Bummed about Leon leaving. However it was clear many in the organization are tired of him. They are tired of dealing with Keels and I'm sure Leon said some things that the coaching staff did not enjoy hearing. This is dumb but I'm saying it anyway because it is a fact. They got to the championship game without him. It would also seem that he could not return kicks effectively anymore since the wedge was banned. Westoff is a very important voice and you have to imagine he said he wont work anymore. So in comes McKnight and Wilson who will be returners. Lets also not forget that the jets have had tremendous success in round four when that is the first round picking on the day. It has to be because they can reset the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Solid B, but I feel weird not considering UDFAs considering how important that process has become in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Solid B, but I feel weird not considering UDFAs considering how important that process has become in the draft. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 i don't see how it anything but an A. 2 #1 receivers alone (even if w eonly wind up keeping one of them longer than this year) would make this draft a success. after that......the mor ei think about it the more i realize that we drafted exactly how you might expect a rex ryan team to draft. our biggest weakness on defense was our lack of cb depth which was horribly exposed and, right along with our lack of rb depth, were the 2 reasons the jets didn't get to play in the superbowl this year. so what did they do? they get one of the top 2 cb prospects at #29 and then.... they make picks that will attempt to maintain our place at the top of the nfl's running attacks. mauling OG prospect...check thumping fb...check fast 3rd down/cop type rb to replace washington...check it makes alot of sense the way this draft went when you sit back and think about who is running this team,..... rex ryan likes to play defense and jam the ball down your throat. this falls right in line with that philosophy. but let's not forget getting weapons for thepassign game to help balance that out slightly. because even though ryan like the play defense/ground and pound style of play, he realizes that you have to be able to pass the ball too. so after sitting back and thinking about it i dont see how you can give this draft anything other than an A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I clicked B, but then I thought about it for another second... its an A. Most teams don't get 2 quality players out of a draft, we managed to get 2 WRs that are already past the "3rd year" benchmark for when receivers usually "get it" at the NFL level. Add that to a CB, OG, RB and FB... 3 of which are positions that RARELY produce busts, and I'd say this was a better than good draft. Also, consider that just about every comment I have heard about our draft from the "experts" is that we got great value with all 4 picks. I gave them an 'A' too because of you guys pointing out about Edwards and Holmes who must be counted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 This. yeah, but I have no patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I think its an A solely for Edwards and Holmes... I think what will be great about this draft, is even though we only had 4 players.. you will probably see them all contribute immediately (Wilson at Nickel, Vlad if he beats Slauson for the LG spot, McKnight on 3rd downs, Terminator probably only on specials but could be replacing t-rich through the season) Something I am always happy to see- contributors from the get-go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Tanny suck my #&*#& you get a D. Santonio was a steal. Wilson was good. The rest of your draft blows. You didn't address needs, wasted picks, all we did was get younger but.... WHERE IS THE PASS RUSH? Where is our d-lineman where is our o-line depth??? You are either insane or an evil genius Mike T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Tanny suck my #&*#& you get a D. Santonio was a steal. Wilson was good. The rest of your draft blows. You didn't address needs, wasted picks, all we did was get younger but.... WHERE IS THE PASS RUSH? Where is our d-lineman where is our o-line depth??? You are either insane or an evil genius Mike T I totally feel your pain man, I hope they can find some thing in UDFA market. 2 years of Rex as head coach and one defensive draft pick. Very strange to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 This whole draft rests on two things for me, personally. 1. Do the Jets sign Holmes or Edwards to an extension? I'd assume one of them gets the extension, but not both. It'll be interesting to see if they can both hold it together, especially if Sanchez has a sophomore slump and can't get either of them the ball 6-7 times a game. Edwards was quiet about not seeing the rock last year, but his deal is up and he has to put up numbers. Same for Holmes. It could get nasty at receiver if these guys start to lose focus. I like both trades, but if we're going to factor them into grading this particular draft, we have to see how these two hold up. 2. How fast Ducasse comes along: If Ducasse is the goods, and that left side of the line can be as dominant as it looks like it can be (assuming he knows how to use his 330 lbs.), then he can elevate this draft from a good one to a great one. I have no expectations for McKnight at all. I've watched USC a bunch and he always struck me as a product of hype. All this Reggie Bush talk was a joke. Also, trading Leon for him (essentially) puts a little pressure on McKnight to perform. As for Conner, I am never a fan of drafting a FB, especially a one-dimensional blocker-type. Seems like a wasted pick, especially with Tony Richardson still on the roster. All in all, I'd give this draft a C+/B- right now with a chance to become an A++ if Ducasse is the mack and Holmes or Braylon grows up in a hurry. Also, I will really be interested to see what UDFA's they bring in, especially at DE and DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Connor can run, he did not look one dimensional to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 My GPA is about a 3.8 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Tanny suck my #&*#& you get a D. Santonio was a steal. Wilson was good. The rest of your draft blows. You didn't address needs, wasted picks, all we did was get younger but.... WHERE IS THE PASS RUSH? Where is our d-lineman where is our o-line depth??? You are either insane or an evil genius Mike T with the talent we're gonna have in the secondary we're gonna be able to send 6 or 7 blitzers at the qb consistently. our lack of actual sacks not withstading our pressure on the qb last year was a big reason we had the number 1 pass defense in the league and only gave up 8 passing td's the whole year. the additions of kyle wilson and jason taylor just improved on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Connor can run, he did not look one dimensional to me. he can actually catch the ball a little too...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 with the talent we're gonna have in the secondary we're gonna be able to send 6 or 7 blitzers at the qb consistently. our lack of actual sacks not withstading our pressure on the qb last year was a big reason we had the number 1 pass defense in the league and only gave up 8 passing td's the whole year. the additions of kyle wilson and jason taylor just improved on that.We may even send 8 or 9. Some people just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 he can actually catch the ball a little too......I know, he looks like a real BEAST! I like the pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 A C, but I include all the transactions including the Leon/Fanaca...most disapointed i've been in the FO since we fake pumped the Brendan Moore release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The draft - A The drafting - C I'm interested to see how this will play out. Love Wilson, think he'll be a stud. I'm really not convinced trading Leon was the best move, but McKnight was a solid replacement. The Ducasse pick determines pretty much everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 My GPA is about a 3.8 or so. On a 10.0 scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 TFY is widely considered the best Draft site. Here what they had to say on picks. Kyle Wilson School: Boise State Position: CB 1st round prospect Bio: Four-year starter awarded All-Conference honors since his sophomore season and named as an all-American last year. Senior defensive totals last year included 42/3/4, when he also averaged 10.4 yards on 24 kick returns. Junior numbers included 35/5/10, with a 14.2 yard average on 33 kick returns and three scores. Positive: Solid cover cornerback who will also help a team as a punt returner. Physical, mixes it up with receivers and sells out on the blitz. Fluid pedaling in reverse, shows a nice burst of speed, and quickly breaks to the ball from his plant. Plays with a nice degree of suddenness and flashes on the scene. Gets vertical, displays good hands for the interception, and makes a lot of athletic plays on the field. Terrific return specialist who sees the field and finds the openings. Negative: Slow getting his head back around to locate the pass and tends to do a bit of face guarding. May not possess the top end speed to stay downfield with opponents. Analysis: Wilson has been a solid cornerback for Boise State the past three years, and as a prospect, he is best suited in a zone system or backed off the line of scrimmage. He offers a good degree of upside and could eventually start for an NFL team, but his ability to produce returning punts will help him see action as a rookie. Vladimir Ducasse School: Massachusetts Position: T 2nd round prospect Bio: Full-time starter the past three seasons. Awarded both All-American and All-Conference honors since his junior campaign. Positive: Athletic offensive lineman with terrific size and pass blocking skills. Stays square, bends his knees, and makes effective use of blocking angles. Effectively slides out off the edge, jolts defenders with good hand punch, then easily steers them from their angle of attack. Fluid moving out to the second level, redirects to linebackers and shows the ability to get into the secondary and hit a moving target. Moves very well on his feet and fundamentally sound in all aspects. Plays with a good degree of quickness and explosion. Negative: Lacks balance and does not always show good wherewithal on the field. Needs to develop a nasty attitude and must work harder to finish run blocks Analysis: Ducasse stood out to NFL decision-makers as a sophomore and has progressively gotten better on the field. He possesses the physical skills and mechanics to hold down a starting left tackle job in the NFL. Ducasse will need time to acclimate himself to the speed and size of the NFL but is a good prospect with a high upside. Joe McKnight School: USC Position: RB 3rd round prospect Bio: Posted career rushing totals last season after becoming the teams feature back, finishing the year with 164/1014/8. Also added 22/146 as a pass catcher. Sophomore totals included 89/659/2 on the ground, with 21/193/1 as a pass catcher when he was used as part of a rotational system. Positive: Elusive ball-carrier with the versatility to be used in a variety of roles. Will pick and choose his way on the inside, finds the cutback lanes and darts through the small creases of the defense. Sets defenders up, very slippery and makes several opponents miss over the course of a single run. Loses no momentum cutting back against the grain, keeps his feet moving and works runs on the inside. Patient, follows blocks everywhere on the field and displays the ability to create his own yardage. Runs with outstanding balance, body control, and quickness. Solid pass catcher and extends his hands to make the reception away from his frame. Negative: Loses focus, concentration, and must improve his ball security. Needs to pick up the intensity as a blocker. Lacks the classic size wanted in a featured back. Analysis: McKnight has been very productive in a variety of roles at USC the past three seasons. He has the potential to be productive in the NFL, yet he is more likely to do so as a situational skill player who is lined up in the backfield as a slot receiver and used as part of the return game. John Conner School: Kentucky Position: FB 6th round prospect Bio: Two-year starter who totaled 30/156/2 as a senior after 15/47 prior year. Positive: Strong, aggressive lead blocker who opens holes for the running game. Displays terrific vision, squares into defenders, and turns them from the action. Accelerates into blocks and drives through opponents, attacking assignments. Adequate pass catcher out of the backfield who adjusts to the errant throw and looks the ball into his hands. Negative: Rumbles about the field and displays minimal quickness in his game. Not a fullback who can turn the corner and is most effective between tackle. Analysis: Connor is a hard-working lead blocker who does the little things well. He's a throwback type of player yet a bit one-dimensional. As a result, Connor will not be selected until the late part of the draft, but he will be an asset for some team at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 C, not a big fan of trading up for a RB/FB and losing Faneca/Leon. Love the Wilson pick though. I know it's not cool to question the CS on here, but whatever. I'm with you , I gave the draft itself a "C" . We STILL have not built up any quality OL depth. Releasing Faneca cured that. Trading up and drafting a FB in the 5th was not on my agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 The draft - A The drafting - C I'm interested to see how this will play out. Love Wilson, think he'll be a stud. I'm really not convinced trading Leon was the best move, but McKnight was a solid replacement. The Ducasse pick determines pretty much everything. How about if Kyle Wilson becomes mini-Revis? I'd say that determines a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I like the draft overall so I'll give it a solid B. Liked the Wilson pick initially but after thinking about it I really love the flexibility it gives us. Ducasse is a good pick and good value. He looks like he can be a nice guard long term. Again, really like the McKnight pick and I think he can approximate what Leon gives us. The only pick I'm not a fan of is the Conner selection since I don't see the point in taking a FB that high with our other needs and other players left on the board. The main thing about this draft is I think there's some players that they missed that they could've gotten, especially on defense. So it's not so much who they did pick that I don't like but who they missed out on. That being said I do think we got some good players from this draft. Wilson, Ducasse, and Conner look like eventual starters and McKnight should be a solid contributer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 On a 10.0 scale? Leave boy genius alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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