124 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Did this guy ever hear about Wayne Chrebet and the hundreds of other successful, or at least long term reserve NFL players who were UDFA's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Maybe he didn't think a UDFA gets paid enough to have to listen to David Letterman make fun of his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentos Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 http://www.nfl.com/players/timmrosenbach/profile?id=ROS379680 The first thing I checked was wikipedia which lists him in Canada and NO. This has him in NO for a year, maybe he was cut before the season. Well, maybe he was briefly with the Saints. If he was, then I completely missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Maybe he didn't think a UDFA gets paid enough to have to listen to David Letterman make fun of his name. Finally someone comes up with a legitimate reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 the NFL is such a brutal way to make a living, i dont begrudge sicko for saying no. many young men say yes to a meat grinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Did this guy ever hear about Wayne Chrebet and the hundreds of other successful, or at least long term reserve NFL players who were UDFA's? maybe he did hear about chrebet... all those concussions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Great analogy. So because I'm calling Sicko a retard for turning down six figures and getting a shot at being a pro athlete, I'm perfectly OK with Roethlisberger forcibly ravaging women's vaginas? Right. Considering that both conclusions require an impressively obdurate refusal to think critically, it's actually a pretty apt comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 the NFL is such a brutal way to make a living, i dont begrudge sicko for saying no. many young men say yes to a meat grinder. He didn't say no for those legitimate reasons, though. He said no only if he didn't get drafted. Multiple teams called saying they wanted him, and it's not like the Jets drafted someone else in round 7 instead of him. Perhaps the Jets would have taken him there if we didn't have to give it up in the Leon deal. Maybe, maybe not. I'm just saying I think his reason as laid out is a weak and immature one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 maybe he did hear about chrebet... all those concussions... Wow. One example of concussion problems from a UDFA. Cool. And he's still set for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 You only make $300K+ if you make the team for the whole year. Do you make half that if you make the team for 8 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 You only make $300K+ if you make the team for the whole year. Do you make half that if you make the team for 8 games? $385,000 for the season. You get whatever percentage based on the number of weeks on the team. Half the season nets you 192,500 (+ 5k a week for the half a season you were on the practice squad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 He just signed with the cowboys.. so much for that feel-good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 He just signed with the cowboys.. so much for that feel-good story. lol...he must read this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Salary for one year in the NFL > Salary anywhere else for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 He just signed with the cowboys.. so much for that feel-good story.I knew this whole thing was a waste of a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 lol...he must read this board. Well, it's a moo point now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 $385,000 for the season. You get whatever percentage based on the number of weeks on the team. Half the season nets you 192,500 (+ 5k a week for the half a season you were on the practice squad). Much obliged, Bergenjet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I know two players that were UFA signings. One out of BC and signed by Arizona and another out of Northeastern and signed by the Jets. Clearly long shots to make the team....but they plugged along anyway. To this day, both say it was a cool experience but NOT WORTH IT....... ....J.P and Matt Comella. One was asked to join the Barcelona Dragons after he was cut - said no thanks. He now owns a successful chain of resturaunts in the Boston area along with his brother. The other became a trader after he was cut -and made more money doing that than being a human tackling dummy in the summer heat and humidity. He is now raking in the dough with his brother in the restaurant biz. Good for them, they hit it big. However inspiring, that might not be quite the typical situation. The Winter 2010 issue of NACE’s Salary Survey shows the overall average offer to a bachelor’s degree graduate is $48,351, down 2 percent from the average offer of $49,353 made to Class of 2009 bachelor’s degree graduates. http://theprofessionalengineer.com/2010/02/09/engineering-graduates-salary/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 he'll regret this the rest of his life, but most likely he'll change his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 lol...he must read this board. He came to his senses. So what if you didnt get drafted. Josh Cribbs, James Harrison, Miles Austin and WES WELKA werent either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Well, it's a moo point now. Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 He just signed with the cowboys.. so much for that feel-good story. Good for him. Really doesn't matter if he makes it or not. He won't be wondering, 5 years from now and beyond, "What if I tried?" While they are not the norm, consider the lives of these guys who lasted 3+ years in the league - just from the AFCE alone - on 2009 rosters: Tony Richardson Brandon Moore Marques Douglas Bart Scott Jim Leonhard Wallace Wright Larry Izzo Wes Welker Steve Neal Leigh Bodden Joey Haynos Lousaka Polite George Wilson Corey McIntyre Not to mention the lives of these other star players if they hadn't tried: Kurt Warner Tony Romo Ryan Grant Priest Holmes Jake Delhomme Antonio Gates Rod Smith Willie Parker (I'm sure I'm missing others) So good for him manning up and putting an end to saying to himself: "The odds are against me so I shouldn't even try," like a future failure at life would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Good for him. Really doesn't matter if he makes it or not. He won't be wondering, 5 years from now and beyond, "What if I tried?" While they are not the norm, consider the lives of these guys who lasted 3+ years in the league - just from the AFCE alone - on 2009 rosters: Tony Richardson Brandon Moore Marques Douglas Bart Scott Jim Leonhard Wallace Wright Larry Izzo Wes Welker Steve Neal Leigh Bodden Joey Haynos Lousaka Polite George Wilson Corey McIntyre Not to mention the lives of these other star players if they hadn't tried: Kurt Warner Tony Romo Ryan Grant Priest Holmes Jake Delhomme Antonio Gates Rod Smith Willie Parker (I'm sure I'm missing others) So good for him manning up and putting an end to saying to himself: "The odds are against me so I shouldn't even try," like a future failure at life would. Wayne Chrebet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Wayne Chrebet!!! Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Chrebet played in 2009? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 He just signed with the cowboys.. so much for that feel-good story. I guess he felt the Cowboys, being so persistant, REALLY wanted him. I wish him luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 He came to his senses. So what if you didnt get drafted. Josh Cribbs, James Harrison, Miles Austin and WES WELKA werent either. Neither was Romo. How about a Romo to Sicko hookup ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty_VM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I'm pretty upset at this pickup. He apparently "came to his senses" on Tuesday. However, the whole situation just shows he was being immature and hot headed, or that he had greatly inflated his self-worth which was then brought back down to earth after he was passed over in the draft. Either way, it shows that he might be more than a little bit narcissistic or fickle, attributes that I wouldn't think would mesh well with someone who has to work their way back up to be a contributer to a NFL team. Looking at those guys like Romo, Austin and even guys like Crayton and Ratliff, they started off as bubble players, who worked hard. They were driven to learn and contribute until they eventually earned their payoffs. I have no problem if someone turns down an NFL offer and decides to take a different path in life, but waffling between decisions is infuriating to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I'm pretty upset at this pickup. He apparently "came to his senses" on Tuesday. However, the whole situation just shows he was being immature and hot headed, or that he had greatly inflated his self-worth which was then brought back down to earth after he was passed over in the draft. Either way, it shows that he might be more than a little bit narcissistic or fickle, attributes that I wouldn't think would mesh well with someone who has to work their way back up to be a contributer to a NFL team. Looking at those guys like Romo, Austin and even guys like Crayton and Ratliff, they started off as bubble players, who worked hard. They were driven to learn and contribute until they eventually earned their payoffs. I have no problem if someone turns down an NFL offer and decides to take a different path in life, but waffling between decisions is infuriating to me. If you get a chance read Peter Kings MMQB column this week. He actually spoke to the kid. It puts a different light on it and I think you'll understand the kids thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty_VM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If you get a chance read Peter Kings MMQB column this week. He actually spoke to the kid. It puts a different light on it and I think you'll understand the kids thinking. Cool, thanks, opening it now to check it out. I've read some articles in local papers about him (I live outside of Albany, so he went to hs around here and this was relatively big news.) P.S. Read the article, thanks for the heads up Thai Jet. A couple of things don't really mesh still, you CAN be a pro athlete and get a degree on the side, others have. But I feel better about the kids drive regardless after reading that. I wish him the best, especially as a local prospect. I can't help to wonder why he didn't go over to you guys too. I know it points to the Garrett's as possible reasons, but they, and his agents know that with us, it'll be hard to crack even our 52 man roster. We have 3 strong TE's who are pretty entrenched and have been proven contributors (Witten, Phillips and Bennet.) In comparison you have Keller, Hartsock and Mulligan 1 entrenched and one sort of swiss army knife? And the pats have Crumpler, Agnone, Gronkowski and Myers? Lord knows who the Chiefs have after Pope. And in the cases of the teams in the AFCE, he'd still be local and close to both his home and gf. It's odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I have a feeling that Fatty_VM is Brett Favre's biggest fan just because of his waffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty_VM Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I have a feeling that Fatty_VM is Brett Favre's biggest fan just because of his waffling. Uuuggggggh. HOW CAN HE STAY IN A STATE OF PERPETUAL WAFFLAGE SINCE 2002?! /rant. I've been doing some more thinking on this, since we are most likely releasing our only vet fullback due to character issues, we might be trying to use him to as another interchangeable fb-te hybrid. That is, if he actually has the brain that he's portrayed to have, he could be competing for that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I have no problem if someone turns down an NFL offer and decides to take a different path in life, but waffling between decisions is infuriating to me. He's 22 and he only waffled a couple of days. Moreover, I never understood why people who don't know a guy get angry when they make a bad career move or do something which hurts the player, but nobody else. If a player gets caught with alcohol or drugs too many times, I've seen people who don't cheer for his team get angry at that player for passing up his opportunities, or something. I can see if you cheer for his team and his suspension or banning hurts the team, but these people aren't fans of his team. Yet they hate the guy. Hey, the opportunities are his, if he foolishly passes them up it's his problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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