Jamarcus Russell released.

[jetscanes331]

Sign this bust?

[Greenranger]

Sign this bust?

He could play on the DL, lord knows he's fat enough.

[Thai Jet]

I'm shocked. That is all.

[Bruce Banner]

When they didn't release him right after they got Campbell I figured there were two likely explanations:

1. They wanted to keep him and believed in his future.

2. aldavis was embarrased and wanted to wait a little and let the attention die down a little before doing it.

I feel for you al, making a mistake this stupid in front of millions of people has to suck so bad.

[LandShark13]

Just my opinion of JM.

[villain_the_foe]

Lane Kiffen is laughing his azz off right now.

Talk about "I told you so"! lol.

[Larz]

poor guy is rich, young and healthy

just move to where nobody knows american football, like fiji, and he'll have the last laugh

[hoping4ASuperBowl]

Just my opinion of JM.

at this point, does he even care if he's a "bust"...look at all the money he's got. kinda messed up when you think about it.

[kelticwizard]

Normally I would say that failing hurts an athlete, even if they are financially set for life.

In his case though, I don't think that applies. He didn't try very hard to get the job.

[LandShark13]

at this point, does he even care if he's a "bust"...look at all the money he's got. kinda messed up when you think about it.

Never really said he cared. I would think he would though. I mean who wants to be labeled a bust? If your point is better to be a rich bust than a Poor/Middle class working stiff then point taken, but then again that wasn't the point of my post.

This league has been punishing the worst teams in the league by forcing them to tie up outrages amounts of money in players who have yet to prove that they can play in the NFL. Anyway, I made that image months ago but with his release it once again became relevant and posted for your enjoyment!

[kelticwizard]

This league has been punishing the worst teams in the league by forcing them to tie up [outrageous] amounts of money in players who have yet to prove that they can play in the NFL.

But if the average career only lasts four years, and you cap the first three years through a draft salary cap, you are going to place an artificial hold on most of your players' salaries for the majority of their careers.

Is that fair?

[#27TheDominator]

But if the average career only lasts four years, and you cap the first three years through a draft salary cap, you are going to place an artificial hold on most of your players' salaries for the majority of their careers.

Is that fair?

That's a good point, but the NFL has never been fair to the players.

[LandShark13]

But if the average career only lasts four years, and you cap the first three years through a draft salary cap, you are going to place an artificial hold on most of your players' salaries for the majority of their careers.

Is that fair?

That number is a bit skewed don't you think? I would think the majority of those players (under 4 years) are simply players that weren't good enough to get a second contract offered. Which would further support the argument for a rookie salary cap.

I'm not saying we lower the minimum the teams are required to spend either. If both a rookie cap and team minimums were in place it would lead to the majority of the dollars going to those veterans that have earned it.

[Maxman]

Within 5 minutes of his release, 3 local diners declared bankruptcy.

[The Crusher]

Within 5 minutes of his release, 3 local diners declared bankruptcy.

That's nice. LOL

[LandShark13]

Within 5 minutes of his release, 3 local diners declared bankruptcy.

That's funny!

[Maxman]

That's nice. LOL

That's funny!

Feel free to hit the Post Of The Week button.

[RutgersJetFan]

This league has been punishing the worst teams in the league by forcing them to tie up outrages amounts of money in players who have yet to prove that they can play in the NFL.

It's sad that there's actually some truth to this. Kind of crazy that teams drafting in the top 2-3 now can't even trade down if they want to, or that teams have taken lower picks as trade compensation in deals because they don't even want to deal with drafting that high.

[LandShark13]

It's sad that there's actually some truth to this. Kind of crazy that teams drafting in the top 2-3 now can't even trade down if they want to, or that teams have taken lower picks as trade compensation in deals because they don't even want to deal with drafting that high.

That point really hit home for me in 2008 when we had the first pick. Long was a great pick for us but trading down wasn't even an option and it really should be. I'm pretty sure the next CBA will have a Rookie Cap in it.

[Bruce Banner]

[Smashmouth]

If Crazy Al pulled the Trigger why can't we ? Goldston is next !!

[Klecko73isGod]

If Crazy Al pulled the Trigger why can't we ? Goldston is next !!

Who is Goldston?

[SoFlaJets]

39 million dollars paid produces only 7 wins, that's like 5.5 million dollars a win-hell I could do that

[Klecko73isGod]

39 million dollars paid produces only 7 wins, that's like 5.5 million dollars a win-hell I could do that

Hell, I'd do it for $5.2 million.

[SoFlaJets]

Hell, I'd do it for $5.2 million.

yea but you were only a second round draft pick

[Klecko73isGod]

yea but you were only a second round draft pick

True. But I'm a future HOFer.

[#27TheDominator]

yea but you were only a second round draft pick

True. But I'm a future HOFer.

You're Kellen Clemens?

[JiFtheOracle]

These situations are really interesting to me. I kind of dont mind the way that rookies get paid entering the NFL because they play for free in NCAA and depending where they play and the success while there, they make their respective schools very wealthy.

I mean, I know for a fact that UF wouldnt be half the learning institution it is today if it werent for the success of their athletic programs. Miami too.

When you think about all the money Russell helped generate at LSU...its kind of right that these kids get paid once entering the league. That said, there should definitely be a limit, but I dont think it should be extremely harsh. IMO NCAA players should be getting paid, so this is kind of their reward for playing at the highest level possible during school.

Its the teams fault for drafting players that dont have motivation to play. Its their job to do their homework and make the best selection possible. The writing was on the wall about Gholston, we took him, and its been 100% accurate at this point, but teams still decide to invest a ton of money. When its all said and done, IMO, its the teams fault.

[Klecko73isGod]

You're Kellen Clemens?

Brett Favre. I have a tendancy to piss people off by being myself.

[billo83]

These situations are really interesting to me. I kind of dont mind the way that rookies get paid entering the NFL because they play for free in NCAA and depending where they play and the success while there, they make their respective schools very wealthy.

I mean, I know for a fact that UF wouldnt be half the learning institution it is today if it werent for the success of their athletic programs. Miami too.

When you think about all the money Russell helped generate at LSU...its kind of right that these kids get paid once entering the league. That said, there should definitely be a limit, but I dont think it should be extremely harsh. IMO NCAA players should be getting paid, so this is kind of their reward for playing at the highest level possible during school.

Its the teams fault for drafting players that dont have motivation to play. Its their job to do their homework and make the best selection possible. The writing was on the wall about Gholston, we took him, and its been 100% accurate at this point, but teams still decide to invest a ton of money. When its all said and done, IMO, its the teams fault.

Why should the NFL pay for something the NCAA is benefiting from? That doesn't really make any sense.

As far as the draft, it really is a crapshoot. Sure you can probably avoid some busts where motivation is an issue. But many of these players who get paid a ton of money bust for other reasons that you can't blame the team for not doing their homework on.

Many simply can't adjust to the NFL game even though the motivation is there. Some get banged up and can't handle the rigors of the NFL game. What can a team do to foresee this?

A rooke salary cap makes all the sense in the world.

[JiFtheOracle]

Why should the NFL pay for something the NCAA is benefiting from? That doesn't really make any sense.

As far as the draft, it really is a crapshoot. Sure you can probably avoid some busts where motivation is an issue. But many of these players who get paid a ton of money bust for other reasons that you can't blame the team for not doing their homework on.

Many simply can't adjust to the NFL game even though the motivation is there. Some get banged up and can't handle the rigors of the NFL game. What can a team do to foresee this?

A rooke salary cap makes all the sense in the world.

Never said the NFL should...Im just simply pointing out that it doesnt bother me all that much that these kids get paid nicely when entering the NFL. Its an investment and many times they deserve it for what they did in college. Its not their fault that the NCAA doesnt pay...making it to the NFL is the reward for hard work in college. The system has created this...so I'm ok with it.

I agree their should be a rookie salary cap, I just dont think it should be over aggressive. You are right, plenty of players fail for numerous reasons out of the control of the team that chose to employ them, but thats no different than any other company in this world. It happens, I see it daily in the business I'm in. Companies invest money in someone and it doesnt pan out resulting in a loss. Does that mean companies should put a salary cap on someone that is entering the organization because they havent done anything specifically for their company? That would **** everything up...big time!

[Joe Jets fan]

What they need to do is set a scale. make each pick a set contract, and then each round a set contract. This way you can move some of the $ to the later rounds and most of the $ to the vets. The players that get drafted later and don't get a second contract will make a little more with there first contract.

[Klecko73isGod]

What they need to do is set a scale. make each pick a set contract, and then each round a set contract. This way you can move some of the $ to the later rounds and most of the $ to the vets. The players that get drafted later and don't get a second contract will make a little more with there first contract.

LOL. I first read this post as "what they need to do is get a scale." I guess to weigh Jamarcus Russell's fat ass.

[JiFtheOracle]

What they need to do is set a scale. make each pick a set contract, and then each round a set contract. This way you can move some of the $ to the later rounds and most of the $ to the vets. The players that get drafted later and don't get a second contract will make a little more with there first contract.

The only problem I have with this, is that if you are the first selected in your position in the draft, you should be rewarded for that...and if your the first selected in your position in the 3rd round, you shouldnt be punished.

For example, John Conner, should be rewarded for being the first FB selected in the draft no matter what round he was in.

[billo83]

I agree their should be a rookie salary cap, I just dont think it should be over aggressive. You are right, plenty of players fail for numerous reasons out of the control of the team that chose to employ them, but thats no different than any other company in this world. It happens, I see it daily in the business I'm in. Companies invest money in someone and it doesnt pan out resulting in a loss. Does that mean companies should put a salary cap on someone that is entering the organization because they havent done anything specifically for their company? That would **** everything up...big time!

A couple of big differences though:

1. Companies aren't paying millions of dollars (and guaranteed bonus money) to recent college grads. There is very little investement, and in most states they can easily terminate an employee for performance related issues.

2. There is a salary range (similar to a salary cap) for most companies when hiring college grads, or for pretty much anyone for that matter.

So for example, a company is not going to pay 100K a year for an accountant even if that person had a 4.0 GPA. There would be a salary range of say 30K-40K and that is all they would pay to an incoming college grad. That is in essence, a salary cap.

Further, if the person doesn't work out in the hired position, many times a company will transfer that person to another position that they can do better in. So in my example, the accountant can be transferred to IT where their computer skills can be utilized.