dolphann4life Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 After busy offseason, an early look at how the 32 teams stack up now Story Highlights Here in May, best teams appear to be Packers, Chargers, Ravens Surprise teams outside the top 12 include the Patriots and Vikings Much more in Quotes of the Week, Stat of the Week and 10 Things I Think Philip Rivers has thrown for more than 4,000 yards in each of the past two seasons. John McDonough/SI PONTE VEDRA BEACH, Fla -- I'm playing the Stadium Course here at Sawgrass today, as part of the annual Tom Coughlin/Jay Fund tournament benefiting cancer-stricken kids and their families. Over/under on the number of balls I put in the drink at 17: 17. Great, classic Coughlin scene last night at the dinner and auction at the Sawgrass TPC Clubhouse, as the Giants' head coach welcomed everyone. There were moving tales of brave kids and their families battling cancer. Coughlin had just told the story of a child looking up at his parents when the cancer diagnosis came in, saying, "Am I going to die?'' And from the back of the audience: "BRRRRRRRING!'' "BRRRRRRRING!'' Someone's cell phone. Without breaking verbal stride, Coughlin said into the mike: "All right. That's at least a $5,000 fine right there. Just write the check right now.'' Pretty good for Coughlin. Pretty good for anyone in the middle of something emotional. So before I go out this morning, let me embarrass myself by ranking the NFL one through 32. That's not being overly modest -- just realistic. I stink at this. In fact, my recommendation if you really want to find out what's going to happen in the NFL this year is to take a bye on this column. Last year, I really distinguished myself. Picked the Bears to make the Super Bowl. Picked the Saints 24th in the league, which was a point of some contention all season, right up to the moment 30 minutes after the Saints won the Super Bowl and Sean Payton walked up to his podium to meet the press after the game, saw me, and said: "Not bad for number 24.'' But I press on -- stupidly or intrepidly, not sure which, keeping one statistic in mind. Twelve teams make the playoffs each year. In the past five years, check out the turnover from the previous year. How many different teams made the playoffs compared to the year before: 2005: 7. 2006: 7. 2007: 6. 2008: 7. 2009: 6. So for five straight years there's been at least a 50-percent turnover in the playoff teams. Remember that as you throw crap at your computer when you see I don't have New England making the playoffs, but I do have Carolina in the big dance. There's not quite the same high number of playoff changes (I have five of 12 different from 2009), but I do have five of eight division winners changing. 1. Green Bay. It's not just the maturation of Aaron Rodgers. It's the carryover from a fluky end to 2009 (the weird playoff loss at Arizona) and the fact that only one team in football -- New Orleans -- had a better point differential than the Pack's plus-164 last year. I like Jermichael Finley to become a great player in his second starting season. I don't trust the pass-rush (where Clay Matthews is the only real thing), and I worry about two of the top three corners coming off ACL surgery, and aging. But the defensive front is formidable, and a very good match for the good run teams of the NFC North. I also like Weeks 2 through 5 on the schedule (Buffalo, at Chicago, Detroit, at Washington), which sets up for a strong start. 2. San Diego. I didn't like how much the Chargers traded to get Ryan Mathews (the 28th and 40th picks in a strong draft) when they probably could have gotten him for less, but that doesn't mean I don't like what Mathews is going to do. I think he'll be the offensive rookie of the year. He has everything a good back needs -- opportunity (he should get 320 carries if healthy), playing from ahead a lot, and a good offensive line. And did I mention Philip Rivers will throw for 4,500 yards and contend strongly for MVP? As with Green Bay, I don't know where all the pass-rush will come from, but the Chargers are relying heavily on Larry English to break out of his freshman slump and give it to them -- and hope that, in a salary-drive year, Shawne Merriman can give the franchise one last productive year. It's more likely, I think, that Shaun Phillips has seven to 10 sacks and provides cover for English. I like the Chargers to go at least 5-1 in the division, which gives them an edge over the other three division winners, setting them up for home-field in the AFC playoffs. 3. Baltimore. I think the Ravens have hit a few home runs this offseason, and those moves could carry them to the AFC Championship Game. I like the remake of their receiver corps. Anquan Boldin won't make it through 16 games healthy, but he'll give Joe Flacco a good, physical target for 12. Donte' Stallworth will be reborn as an effective third or fourth wideout, with the speed at the position the Ravens haven't had. On defense, I wish I saw something better at cornerback than waiting for Lardarius Webb to come back from knee surgery sometime this summer so that the starting corners opening day aren't Chris Carr and Domonique Foxworth. Defensive coordinator Greg Mattison obviously has to be hoping for it to be third- and-long so often (with a great run-stuffing front) that he doesn't have to worry about the more than occasional coverage error downfield. 4. Indianapolis. I see no reason, either in the competitive level of the division or in the Colts' slippage, for Indy to regress. Manning will be Manning, and he has the young weapons to be good as long as his body will hold up now, even if one of his valuable pieces like Reggie Wayne breaks down. They've backstopped everywhere on the roster pretty effectively, and last year got two kid corners the kind of experience under fire that will serve them well going forward at a position Bill Polian uses interchangeably. Third-round pick Jerraud Powers played as effectively as any other rookie corner in football last year, and Indy's set with him and Kelvin Hayden, with Jacob Lacey in relief there. The Achilles heel, again, could be San Diego. The Chargers are a major matchup problem for Indianapolis, and even with some upheaval in San Diego, the AFC still could come down to Indy having to win at San Diego to make it to the Super Bowl. 5. New Orleans. The Saints face a daunting task: Only four times in the last 30 seasons has a team repeated as Super Bowl champ (San Francisco in 1990, Dallas in 1994, Denver in 1999 and New England in 2005). The Saints will surely score enough to win again. The question is whether defensive coordinator Gregg Williams can tread water in 2010, because I think that's all he's going to have to do. New Orleans doesn't have to be in the top 10 in defense -- the Bills allowed 15 fewer points last year, the 49ers 60 -- but Williams, again, will have to find a way to get pressure with middling front-seven talent and make sure the Saints don't have to score in the 30s every week to win. I think Carolina will be better, and Atlanta might be, so this is not a mail-it-in division race for New Orleans. But when the Saints had to pick it up last year, they did, in a big way. Will complacency bite them? That's something you can never tell at this point of the offseason, but they're young at enough important positions to make another Super Bowl run. 6. Miami. I probably like the young quarterback more than most do; I think Chad Henne is set for a breakout year, and I think the receiver group (Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess) will be good enough to give Miami enough at that position for the first time in years. Even though the Dolphins didn't get a fourth receiver like the one they wanted (Demaryius Thomas) on draft day, they'll be good enough there to contend. The most important rookie in the league to a playoff contender, other than Ryan Mathews of the Chargers, could well be Koa Misi, the second-rounder projected to rush the passer for Miami. But as Bill Parcells has said since he came out of the womb, "They don't sell insurance for that kind of thing.'' They don't, and Misi needs to have immediate impact to bolster the one area of the Dolphins that they need the most help -- pass-rush. 7. New York Jets. Tough team to forecast, through all the glitz. The one thing I like a lot about the Jets is their ability to make tough decisions, even when the decisions seem ruthless. GM Mike Tannenbaum said goodbye to two locker room pillars, running back Thomas Jones and guard Alan Faneca, when he knew there'd be player rumblings about it. Tannenbaum has put his trust in offensive line and running-game guru Bill Callahan to keep the best running game in football rolling. There's a lot about this team that's a tinderbox. Will Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards coexist peacefully? Can LaDainian Tomlinson be happy being a middle-relief pitcher? Will Antonio Cromartie tackle, even a little? Make no mistake about it: There's more pressure on Rex Ryan than on any other coach in football this year. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/05/16/ranking/index.html?eref=sihp Click the Link to see all 32 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 The season doesn't start until September. There'ss till more cuts, injuries, free agent signings and trades to come. If there is any more pointless exercise-best ice hockey defenseman living in rain forest?most religous porn star?happiest Goth teen?-don't know what it would be. Peter King is an overpaid asshat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Miami strikes me as the popular pick that winds up being just plain awful once the season starts. King had Chicago in the Super Bowl after they traded for Jay Cutler last year. I think he's making the same kind of mistake here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Seems likely to go from 7-9 to just outside of the top 5 when your already shaky defense got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Wait a minute, the San Diego Chargers at #2? :rl::rl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardKoreXXX Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Seems likely to go from 7-9 to just outside of the top 5 when your already shaky defense got worse. Ok, I'll bite. How did our shaky defense get worse? Gibril Wilson and Akin Ayodele were HORRIBLE last year, Porter was nothing special and neither was JT. We also brought in Karlos Dansby and got a lot younger and deeper through the draft. Not to mention our rookie corners should be better. Not saying I agree with King's assessment, but I don't agree that the defense got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Ok, I'll bite. How did our shaky defense get worse? Gibril Wilson and Akin Ayodele were HORRIBLE last year, Porter was nothing special and neither was JT. We also brought in Karlos Dansby and got a lot younger and deeper through the draft. Not to mention our rookie corners should be better. Not saying I agree with King's assessment, but I don't agree that the defense got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardKoreXXX Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 What's my reaction after both Jets/Phins games last year have to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 How the f-ck are the Dolphins rated ahead of the JETS? Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 The most important rookie in the league to a playoff contender, other than Ryan Mathews of the Chargers, could well be Koa Misi, the second-rounder projected to rush the passer for Miami. But as Bill Parcells has said since he came out of the womb, "They don't sell insurance for that kind of thing.'' They don't, and Misi needs to have immediate impact to bolster the one area of the Dolphins that they need the most help -- pass-rush. Am I reading this correctly? King spends half of his write-up on Miami suggesting that their fortunes hinge on the pass-rushing performance of a guy who had 11 sacks in 38 career games in the Mountain West Conference and still goes on to rank them at #6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 So transparent. The second I saw who posted this thread, I knew the ONLY way it was posted by said person was if the Dolphins were ranked ahead of the Jets. Although I have to say, even if you want to rank the Dolphins ahead of the Jets that's fine, but how the hell do you rank a team who didn't even make the playoffs last year nor did they have a winning record, as #6? That's absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Ok, I'll bite. How did our shaky defense get worse? Gibril Wilson and Akin Ayodele were HORRIBLE last year, Porter was nothing special and neither was JT. We also brought in Karlos Dansby and got a lot younger and deeper through the draft. Not to mention our rookie corners should be better. Not saying I agree with King's assessment, but I don't agree that the defense got worse. Your defense is better than last year no doubt. I like your two young corners although one of them should be playing safety, I cant remember his name. Dansby is a nice player, as your coach/gm/president would say, lets not put him in Canton just yet. He was ok the last two years with Arizona and that defense was a mess. Your d-line is just not that good and Bell at safety is another nice player. The Henne comments I keep reading about are funny. Let's see how he develops. Maybe Miami is better than the JETS, we will find out. Oh, about those two wins last year, congratulations again on that. 7-9 is a nice record and beating the team that was playing in the AFC Championship game is quite the accomplishment. You should be proud, I would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 So transparent. The second I saw who posted this thread, I knew the ONLY way it was posted by said person was if the Dolphins were ranked ahead of the Jets. Although I have to say, even if you want to rank the Dolphins ahead of the Jets that's fine, but how the hell do you rank a team who didn't even make the playoffs last year nor did they have a winning record, as #6? That's absolutely ridiculous. Oh give me a break. I posted this because i think Peter King is one of the best Football Journalist around All kidding aside I don't think we deserve to be ranked ahead of the Jets but i do believe we are closer to you guys than alot of the posters here think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Oh give me a break. I posted this because i think Peter King is one of the best Football Journalist around All kidding aside I don't think we deserve to be ranked ahead of the Jets but i do believe we are closer to you guys than alot of the posters here think. I think that's fair, but lets be honest regarding both teams here, these rankings are seriously screwy. How the hell do you have the World Champions at #5? And if that's the case, how the hell do you have the Dolphins and Jets right after that at 6 & 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 When you factor in Peter Kings hatred for the Jets and his love for the Phins, this actually isn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I think that's fair, but lets be honest regarding both teams here, these rankings are seriously screwy. How the hell do you have the World Champions at #5? And if that's the case, how the hell do you have the Dolphins and Jets right after that at 6 & 7? Well to be fair, having the Jets right after the world champs is valid as the Jets did come within a half of going to the Super Bowl and did hold the Saints to their lowest offensive output in any meaningful game last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 I think that's fair, but lets be honest regarding both teams here, these rankings are seriously screwy. How the hell do you have the World Champions at #5? And if that's the case, how the hell do you have the Dolphins and Jets right after that at 6 & 7? I would certainly change some teams around in his power rankings and i certainly would not have Green Bay #1 although i do think they will be good.King is just trying to go out on a limb and be a little edgy with some of these pics. Like he said in the article thier is usually a 50 percent turnover in playoff teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Even though I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 The season doesn't start until September. There'ss till more cuts, injuries, free agent signings and trades to come. If there is any more pointless exercise-best ice hockey defenseman living in rain forest?most religous porn star?happiest Goth teen?-don't know what it would be. Peter King is an overpaid asshat. How the f-ck are the Dolphins rated ahead of the JETS? Idiot. So transparent. The second I saw who posted this thread, I knew the ONLY way it was posted by said person was if the Dolphins were ranked ahead of the Jets. Although I have to say, even if you want to rank the Dolphins ahead of the Jets that's fine, but how the hell do you rank a team who didn't even make the playoffs last year nor did they have a winning record, as #6? That's absolutely ridiculous. When you factor in Peter Kings hatred for the Jets and his love for the Phins, this actually isn't too bad. I'm sure King was a genius when he wrote this article, right? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/09/20/mmqb/1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I'm sure King was a genius when he wrote this article, right? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/09/20/mmqb/1.html Yeah. Everyone here totally lost their **** when King said Sanchez would be slightly better than Trent Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Yeah. Everyone here totally lost their **** when King said Sanchez would be slightly better than Trent Edwards. Trust me, I've been here for a while. There were knob jobs being exchanged from everybody here when the Jets opened 3-0. (FWIW, I don't think Sancheese will be nearly as good as Trent Edwards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I understand that we are all caught up in the Dolphins ahead of the Jets. But did anyone else notice the Saints are even in the top5? Nor are the Colts. Yet San Diego is? Dumb list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I understand that we are all caught up in the Dolphins ahead of the Jets. But did anyone else notice the Saints are even in the top5? Nor are the Colts. Yet San Diego is? Dumb list. Have to agree that alone throws up red flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardKoreXXX Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I understand that we are all caught up in the Dolphins ahead of the Jets. But did anyone else notice the Saints are even in the top5? Nor are the Colts. Yet San Diego is? Dumb list. The Saints didn't get a lot of love in several predictions I saw. Surprisingly, many are putting the Falcons ahead of them. I don't see it. Matt Ryan is a good, not great, QB. Everyone thought he'd throw for 4000 yards with Tony G. last year. I expect the Saints to steam roll that division again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Trust me, I've been here for a while. There were knob jobs being exchanged from everybody here when the Jets opened 3-0. At least it quieted down when we lost to the likes of Jacksonville and Atlanta. Apparently the only justification for indefinitely suspending the statute of limitations on knobjobs is sweeping a division rival in the midst of a sub-.500 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 The Saints didn't get a lot of love in several predictions I saw. Surprisingly, many are putting the Falcons ahead of them. I don't see it. Matt Ryan is a good, not great, QB. Everyone thought he'd throw for 4000 yards with Tony G. last year. I expect the Saints to steam roll that division again. To be honest. I think most of these list are made to get people to react than actually giving an honest opinion. I mean as far as I know Saints and Colts haven;t really lost many players except of course the Colts lost Freeney. Yet San Diego lost a boat load of players? Kinda reminds me of taking my mom to the race track and her picking horses by our birthdays instead of reading the racing form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 But I press on -- stupidly or intrepidly, not sure which, keeping one statistic in mind. Twelve teams make the playoffs each year. In the past five years, check out the turnover from the previous year. How many different teams made the playoffs compared to the year before: 2005: 7. 2006: 7. 2007: 6. 2008: 7. 2009: 6. So for five straight years there's been at least a 50-percent turnover in the playoff teams. Well, let's see. Try saying it out loud: 'results-oriented prediction.' Sound intrepid? No? There's your answer. The problem with this, which ought to be painfully obvious, is that you need to be better than 50% both at picking the risers and at picking the fallers to even come out ahead of just projecting the teams to finish in exactly the same order they did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Well, let's see. Try saying it out loud: 'results-oriented prediction.' Sound intrepid? No? There's your answer. The problem with this, which ought to be painfully obvious, is that you need to be better than 50% both at picking the risers and at picking the fallers to even come out ahead of just projecting the teams to finish in exactly the same order they did last year. It's a shame that King is over 40 years old, making him ineligible for the Fields Medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua4ever04 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Ok, I'll bite. How did our shaky defense get worse? Gibril Wilson and Akin Ayodele were HORRIBLE last year, Porter was nothing special and neither was JT. We also brought in Karlos Dansby and got a lot younger and deeper through the draft. Not to mention our rookie corners should be better. Not saying I agree with King's assessment, but I don't agree that the defense got worse. Do you really expect him to know that answer to that? He doesn't know what he's talking about. The only thing dumber than rating the Dolphins at #6 right now is saying their defense got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 We all know King is a Jets hater and Parcells butt-licker...leave it to a phag fan to post this as fact from his Gay in Miami periodical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Trust me, I've been here for a while. There were knob jobs being exchanged from everybody here when the Jets opened 3-0. Well, I never got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I thought Peter King was a Pats fan and Mike Francesca was the one sucking Bill Parcells ****? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 So transparent. The second I saw who posted this thread, I knew the ONLY way it was posted by said person was if the Dolphins were ranked ahead of the Jets. Although I have to say, even if you want to rank the Dolphins ahead of the Jets that's fine, but how the hell do you rank a team who didn't even make the playoffs last year nor did they have a winning record, as #6? That's absolutely ridiculous. Plus 1 ****ing million...I had the same reaction when I saw it was a dolphag fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I found some power rankings too. Remember, this is like golf, lower is better. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings -- Jets 8, Dolphins 17 http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings -- Jets 8, Dolphins 22 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/powerrankings -- Jets 8, Dolphins 17 http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php -- Jets 3, Dolphins 9 Also, according to SportsNation country wide fan poll -- Jets 4, Dolphins 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 After busy offseason, an early look at how the 32 teams stack up now 6. Miami. I probably like the young quarterback more than most do; I think Chad Henne is set for a breakout year, and I think the receiver group (Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess) will be good enough to give Miami enough at that position for the first time in years. Even though the Dolphins didn't get a fourth receiver like the one they wanted (Demaryius Thomas) on draft day, they'll be good enough there to contend. The most important rookie in the league to a playoff contender, other than Ryan Mathews of the Chargers, could well be Koa Misi, the second-rounder projected to rush the passer for Miami. But as Bill Parcells has said since he came out of the womb, "They don't sell insurance for that kind of thing.'' They don't, and Misi needs to have immediate impact to bolster the one area of the Dolphins that they need the most help -- pass-rush. 7. New York Jets. Tough team to forecast, through all the glitz. The one thing I like a lot about the Jets is their ability to make tough decisions, even when the decisions seem ruthless. GM Mike Tannenbaum said goodbye to two locker room pillars, running back Thomas Jones and guard Alan Faneca, when he knew there'd be player rumblings about it. Tannenbaum has put his trust in offensive line and running-game guru Bill Callahan to keep the best running game in football rolling. There's a lot about this team that's a tinderbox. Will Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards coexist peacefully? Can LaDainian Tomlinson be happy being a middle-relief pitcher? Will Antonio Cromartie tackle, even a little? Make no mistake about it: There's more pressure on Rex Ryan than on any other coach in football this year. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/05/16/ranking/index.html?eref=sihp Click the Link to see all 32 teams. Kinda figured that's the only reason you posted it Dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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