WIZARD OF OZ Mafia Game Thread

[JiF]

Oh you have got to be kidding me, right? **** this, I'm not even going to waste my time defending this, particularly in light of other information I have to share:

Hey everyone, I'm the cop. Dan X is scum, I found her last night. Given we have a number of scum left, I was trying to avoid revealing this early on if at all possible. Other than that, it appears I was very wrong, clearly DPR is scum too, because there ain't a snowballs chance in hell SMC said a damn thing like that to him. Now let's fry both of these ****ers. I'm guessing they figured me out when I went after Dan right out of the gate to start the day, so that's my fault. But I figure might as well reveal now since they seem to have figured out who I am. Maybe they were hoping I'd get strung up before I could come out and claim, or hoped you guys wouldn't believe me if he came up with this ridiculous story first, but who knows.

I'll let you guys decide how to proceed, but if you're worried about the legitimacy of my reveal I'd imagine going with Dan X first might make you all feel a little better, but after DPR's above post I'd be glad to kill him now too (assuming he can now be lynched). I'll leave that up to all of you.

Dont get this play at all...really no need and now you are forcing our Doc to make a decision. Well not really, but someone made a terrible choice in the Avatar game.

No worries. Dan should be dead tonight anyways.

I got my eyes on you my friend. How is Dan gonig to die tonight if BG said she's scum. And why would you choose to lynch Dan over DPR.

If the purpose of the game is for the wwow and dorothy to find these nuetrals, then obviously they are going to give them some type of advantage.

[JiF]

BG I think your full of crap. I could be wrong but why would you choose to reveal NOW ?? DPR was well on his way to a lynch dont you think ? He mentions your name and you go berserk ? Why didnt you just let DPR get lynched then reveal tomorrow if you had too.

If Im wrong hey it wont be the first time lol we've all been down that road.

I agree with not needing to reveal.

However, I'm not so sure that BG is full of it. And we can test it tomorrow by lynching Dan. And the only reason why I say this is because DPR has been lying out of his ass for days now.

No way on earth, just like being unlynchable, did SMC give him one name. Guaranteed he was posting in the QT and knows every single one of them.

[Integrity28]

At that moment he transformed into a beautiful blonde woman with a crown and pink dress then disappeared in a cloud of smoke.

Blonde chick? Pink dress? Puff of smoke?

Maybe this should have been CTM's role...

[HessStation]

Dont get this play at all...really no need and now you are forcing our Doc to make a decision. Well not really, but someone made a terrible choice in the Avatar game.

I got my eyes on you my friend. How is Dan gonig to die tonight if BG said she's scum. And why would you choose to lynch Dan over DPR.

If the purpose of the game is for the wwow and dorothy to find these nuetrals, then obviously they are going to give them some type of advantage.

Oh dear God I'm shaking in my freaking boots. Oh NOSE!!! Shield myself from the horror icon. You really are not very good at this game are you.

And to the second part. All we know is that she found 1 of them already. Who's to know if her, Dorothy's, job was already done. Hence scum could have wanted DPR gone as much as anyone. But you know it all don't ya.

[Smashmouth]

Oh you have got to be kidding me, right? **** this, I'm not even going to waste my time defending this, particularly in light of other information I have to share:

Hey everyone, I'm the cop. Dan X is scum, I found her last night. Given we have a number of scum left, I was trying to avoid revealing this early on if at all possible. Other than that, it appears I was very wrong, clearly DPR is scum too, because there ain't a snowballs chance in hell SMC said a damn thing like that to him. Now let's fry both of these ****ers. I'm guessing they figured me out when I went after Dan right out of the gate to start the day, so that's my fault. But I figure might as well reveal now since they seem to have figured out who I am. Maybe they were hoping I'd get strung up before I could come out and claim, or hoped you guys wouldn't believe me if he came up with this ridiculous story first, but who knows.

I'll let you guys decide how to proceed, but if you're worried about the legitimacy of my reveal I'd imagine going with Dan X first might make you all feel a little better, but after DPR's above post I'd be glad to kill him now too (assuming he can now be lynched). I'll leave that up to all of you.

I'm ok if you guys disagree, but the more I think about it I think I'm more in favor of going Dan today. Reasons being: (1) if we can "free" DPR (not sure it's true, but you never know), killing her first makes that possible, (2) if he is unlynchable, that's not a good thing for us and (3) if there is a mafia roleblocker, there's a one in four chance she's it. Either way I won't fight it too much, because once one goes today the other goes tomorrow.

You THINK ???? What the hell Bleedin

[Bleedin Green]

BG I think your full of crap. I could be wrong but why would you choose to reveal NOW ?? DPR was well on his way to a lynch dont you think ? He mentions your name and you go berserk ? Why didnt you just let DPR get lynched then reveal tomorrow if you had too.

If Im wrong hey it wont be the first time lol we've all been down that road.

Not sure what I can say to convince you other than to lynch Dan and find out. As far as revealing, I had thought about doing it earlier when I got a guilty result on Dan, but was preferring to try to push her lynch without doing so in order to be hopefully safely secret. However, the flip side was scum obviously know Dan is scum too and so I was worried my pushing for her early right out of the game on the day might tip them off to me being the cop, while the town wouldn't no so I would likely be an unprotected kill. So as it was I was going back and forth on that.

I was originally going to try to wait until a little later in the day to push Dan in order to arouse less suspicion from the scum, but the train on DPR started quickly and I once made the same mistake in a prior game when I got a guilty result on SMC as Lefty. By the time I chimed in I couldn't get a train moving and actually had to reveal that night phase because I was afraid I was going to get NKed before I could give out a confirmed scum result.

So with all of that going back and forth, DPR's "reveal" sealed it for me. I figured at this point worst case scenario we were getting a two-for-one with DPR and Dan and I was also worried that with DPR targeting me, it meant the scum had figured me out and if they had me figured out, I much rather the town know who I am too. Hope that helps explain my line of thinking.

[Smashmouth]

I agree with not needing to reveal.

However, I'm not so sure that BG is full of it. And we can test it tomorrow by lynching Dan. And the only reason why I say this is because DPR has been lying out of his ass for days now.

No way on earth, just like being unlynchable, did SMC give him one name. Guaranteed he was posting in the QT and knows every single one of them.

Lets see what happens tonight JIF Im not buying BG right now at all. NOT AT ALL

[Bleedin Green]

You THINK ???? What the hell Bleedin

I know Dan is scum. After DPR's "reveal", I knew he was too. So the question was which to lynch first. I was telling you all what I thought on that subject.

[Smashmouth]

I know Dan is scum. After DPR's "reveal", I knew he was too. So the question was which to lynch first. I was telling you all what I thought on that subject.

Just seems to me your not very aggressive for someone who knows Dan is scum.

[JiF]

Oh dear God I'm shaking in my freaking boots. Oh NOSE!!! Shield myself from the horror icon. You really are not very good at this game are you.

And to the second part. All we know is that she found 1 of them already. Who's to know if her, Dorothy's, job was already done. Hence scum could have wanted DPR gone as much as anyone. But you know it all don't ya.

I'm not nearly as intelligent as those who are in this game. And I'm definitely the worst of everyone playing...so nothing new there.

I'm pretty certain we'd know if Dorothy was able to use whatever power the GW gave her...and since there hasnt been anything out of the norm yet, I'd also venture to say she never got to use it. Which is why they'd most definitely want to keep DPR around. Also, what if, they also recruited the Wiz?

SMC made it quite clear the purpose of this game is for the wwow and dorothy to find these 2 nuetrals because they gain something from the recruit, making them the most valuable pieces of the game. To want and keep DPR around to see what happens at night, IMO, was a very studid idea.

[HessStation]

Not sure what I can say to convince you other than to lynch Dan and find out. As far as revealing, I had thought about doing it earlier when I got a guilty result on Dan, but was preferring to try to push her lynch without doing so in order to be hopefully safely secret. However, the flip side was scum obviously know Dan is scum too and so I was worried my pushing for her early right out of the game on the day might tip them off to me being the cop, while the town wouldn't no so I would likely be an unprotected kill. So as it was I was going back and forth on that.

I was originally going to try to wait until a little later in the day to push Dan in order to arouse less suspicion from the scum, but the train on DPR started quickly and I once made the same mistake in a prior game when I got a guilty result on SMC as Lefty. By the time I chimed in I couldn't get a train moving and actually had to reveal that night phase because I was afraid I was going to get NKed before I could give out a confirmed scum result.

So with all of that going back and forth, DPR's "reveal" sealed it for me. I figured at this point worst case scenario we were getting a two-for-one with DPR and Dan and I was also worried that with DPR targeting me, it meant the scum had figured me out and if they had me figured out, I much rather the town know who I am too. Hope that helps explain my line of thinking.

I kinda am believing you right now on this premise, DPR was captured, maybe as a capture Dorothy told him what to say. Knowing DPR was gonna get lynched anyway maybe try to frame someone. Maybe Lily tracked BG I don't know but maybe it goes as far as that. Again, we should have lynched Dan today instead of DPR.

[Smashmouth]

never to be seen or heard from ?? Does that mean DPR is still alive but cant post ? maybe his vote can still be placed via PM to SMC ?

[Jets Voice of Reason]

Ok wow, I just woke up to this cluster**** of a mess. Let me reread.

[HessStation]

I'm not nearly as intelligent as those who are in this game. And I'm definitely the worst of everyone playing...so nothing new there.

I'm pretty certain we'd know if Dorothy was able to use whatever power the GW gave her...and since there hasnt been anything out of the norm yet, I'd also venture to say she never got to use it. Which is why they'd most definitely want to keep DPR around. Also, what if, they also recruited the Wiz?

SMC made it quite clear the purpose of this game is for the wwow and dorothy to find these 2 nuetrals because they gain something from the recruit, making them the most valuable pieces of the game. To want and keep DPR around to see what happens at night, IMO, was a very studid idea.

First part=dumb and scummy to assume and what are you talking about with recruiting the wiz. You are also referenced the Good Witch as GW probably bc that's what you do in your QT.

Second part=dumb and scummy. You make a point to show maybe WWOW needed her as much as Dorothy, so why lynch her? And what powers befell last night with DPR as a prisoner. But this should be fun and easy if Dan is scum. You should be dead next.

[HessStation]

Just seems to me your not very aggressive for someone who knows Dan is scum.

Some die some don't. Integ didn't die either. Who knows what it means right now.

[Sharrow]

Are all the players you investigated still alive, BG?

[Jets Voice of Reason]

If BG is finder he should not release the innocent result for a couple of reasons which I think are counterproductive if we explain them all. Try using your heads.

If there IS a counterclaim you must hold your breath until tomorrow. We can't do anything about it now and it's possible DPR and BG are running some gambit. DPR waiting until the end to "out" BG is sketchy as hell and has gambit written all over it.

[JiF]

First part=dumb and scummy to assume and what are you talking about with recruiting the wiz. You are also referenced the Good Witch as GW probably bc that's what you do in your QT.

Second part=dumb and scummy. You make a point to show maybe WWOW needed her as much as Dorothy, so why lynch her? And what powers befell last night with DPR as a prisoner. But this should be fun and easy if Dan is scum. You should be dead next.

I'm getting a feeling you are scum with your last couple of posts because I have no clue what game you are playing.

Some die some don't. Integ didn't die either. Who knows what it means right now.

SMC already said they are out of the game.

[Sharrow]

If BG is finder he should not release the innocent result for a couple of reasons which I think are counterproductive if we explain them all. Try using your heads.

If there IS a counterclaim you must hold your breath until tomorrow. We can't do anything about it now and it's possible DPR and BG are running some gambit. DPR waiting until the end to "out" BG is sketchy as hell and has gambit written all over it.

I just want to know if they're still alive.

[Jets Voice of Reason]

I just want to know if they're still alive.

we posted our posts at the same time. I didn't see yours when I posted. And yes, he can verify that much just not names.

[SMC]

MOD NOTE: Integrity and DPR are out of the game. There's 2 ways to get out of the game (i.e. leave the Castle). Be carried out as a corpse or leave by your own ability.

[Sharrow]

MOD NOTE: Integrity and DPR are out of the game. There's 2 ways to get out of the game (i.e. leave the Castle). Be carried out as a corpse or leave by your own ability.

but what if other players come back and take over their roles! he left open that possibility!!!!

/retardidea

[HessStation]

I'm getting a feeling you are scum with your last couple of posts because I have no clue what game you are playing.

SMC already said they are out of the game.

BOO!!!!

[Smashmouth]

Thx for clearing that up SMC.

[Barmacral]

You THINK ???? What the hell Bleedin

God forgive the man does something you don't do.

[Sharrow]

I gotta go, I'll be back later tonight.

[slats]

Worked the midnight shift last night, just got up to a weird day in Oz. Don't know what to make about BG's reveal. I was just starting to feel better about Dan with posts last night. JiF makes a lot of sense when he says that this wasn't a good time for this reveal.

Don't know what to think right now.

[JiF]

Worked the midnight shift last night, just got up to a weird day in Oz. Don't know what to make about BG's reveal. I was just starting to feel better about Dan with posts last night. JiF makes a lot of sense when he says that this wasn't a good time for this reveal.

Don't know what to think right now.

I dont like how much you've agreed with me this game and the fact neither of us have voted each other. And why havent you talked about how refreshed you are to not be scum this game? Its been your mantra as town for the past few games.

Off to lunch and have meetings that will last into the mid afternoon range...

[slats]

I dont like how much you've agreed with me this game and the fact neither of us have voted each other. And why havent you talked about how refreshed you are to not be scum this game? Its been your mantra as town for the past few games.

Off to lunch and have meetings that will last into the mid afternoon range...

Sorry Batman, I'll vote you ASAP if it makes you feel better.

[Vicious89x]

Sorry Batman, I'll vote you ASAP if it makes you feel better.

You two are like mortal enemies.

[Verbal]

Sad you're gone, CTM. I was strongly leaning townie on him for one reason in particular, but it's best to share that after the game.

I thought the part about the siblings was obvious? I think I'm not understanding what you're saying here.

I feel really good about Sharrow. I'm typically very suspicious of him, but I'm getting a vibe from him I've only gotten once before, and I like it. I may be mistaken, but he seems good to me at the moment.

The back-and-forth conversion idea is confusing to me because then I don't see the point of Lily outing DPR like that in the thread. I don't know why she'd risk all of that if her team would still have to fight back and forth with us over ownership of DPR. But there is always the possibility that there's a lot more going on we don't understand, you have a point there. I'm just having trouble reconciling Lily's actions with any of these theories.

I find it very hard to believe that when limited to 3 posts, this is all you'd give the town.

I think this is a good idea. Was anyone pushing a different train? I'd have to look back at the Two Days of DPR/Lily, all I remember is seeing CTM on Vicious but that was the more recent one.

Sorry to make these giant posts ... probably at least one more coming.

How in the hell would you know something like this? I don't remember that ever being noted in the OP. This is the scummiest post of the game thus far. I was multi-quoting and saw this, and then noted BG's post below:

Oh you have got to be kidding me, right? **** this, I'm not even going to waste my time defending this, particularly in light of other information I have to share:

Hey everyone, I'm the cop. Dan X is scum, I found her last night. Given we have a number of scum left, I was trying to avoid revealing this early on if at all possible. Other than that, it appears I was very wrong, clearly DPR is scum too, because there ain't a snowballs chance in hell SMC said a damn thing like that to him. Now let's fry both of these ****ers. I'm guessing they figured me out when I went after Dan right out of the gate to start the day, so that's my fault. But I figure might as well reveal now since they seem to have figured out who I am. Maybe they were hoping I'd get strung up before I could come out and claim, or hoped you guys wouldn't believe me if he came up with this ridiculous story first, but who knows.

I'll let you guys decide how to proceed, but if you're worried about the legitimacy of my reveal I'd imagine going with Dan X first might make you all feel a little better, but after DPR's above post I'd be glad to kill him now too (assuming he can now be lynched). I'll leave that up to all of you.

Due to me thinking Dan was scum based on that comment she made above, I'm believing BG right now. We lynch Dan tomorrow.

Actually, the sickest thing is that I didn't - I was totally playing town, and Dorothy captured me anyway.

But here's the trick, a lot of the information I've given is very real. You'll just have to figure out which bits and pieces those are.

Admittedly, I did tell a small fib about only being able to post three times a day - but that was for a reason, and now that purpose has been served, so I can talk as much as I want. heh

Now I just get to sit back, sip martinis in the rathole, and see if ya'll figure out the puzzle in time.

This is typical DPR. Thinks we all fell for his lie (we didn't, and that's why we lynched your ass), and that he's the puppetmaster and we need to "solve" his little puzzle.

Heh.

[Vicious89x]

If BG is finder he should not release the innocent result for a couple of reasons which I think are counterproductive if we explain them all. Try using your heads.

If there IS a counterclaim you must hold your breath until tomorrow. We can't do anything about it now and it's possible DPR and BG are running some gambit. DPR waiting until the end to "out" BG is sketchy as hell and has gambit written all over it.

That's a very interesting thought.

[Vicious89x]

How in the hell would you know something like this? I don't remember that ever being noted in the OP. This is the scummiest post of the game thus far. I was multi-quoting and saw this, and then noted BG's post below:

Due to me thinking Dan was scum based on that comment she made above, I'm believing BG right now. We lynch Dan tomorrow.

This is typical DPR. Thinks we all fell for his lie (we didn't, and that's why we lynched your ass), and that he's the puppetmaster and we need to "solve" his little puzzle.

Heh.

THE CHURCH OF DPR

[Pac]

If there IS a counterclaim you must hold your breath until tomorrow. We can't do anything about it now and it's possible DPR and BG are running some gambit. DPR waiting until the end to "out" BG is sketchy as hell and has gambit written all over it.

On the opposite side of that coin..

if BG thinks scum may have figured out who he is (he mentioned it in his first post this morning) then there's a good chance he is getting NK'd. With that being the case WHY NOT give us a name before he dies?

Now scum may try and set him up by not killing him tonight but I think we lynch Dan either way tomorrow... Scum would be stupid to leave BG alive but if they kill him they serve up Dan.

Sucks to be them.

[Bleedin Green]

Are all the players you investigated still alive, BG?

Yes.