RutgersJetFan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 *If* LBJ signs with the Heat, the guy is a JOKE! It's called "Wade county" for a reason. Joke yeah, but really, at it's core, it's just lame. Go on TV, take a giant dump on the city that never did anything but love and embrace you, and go join an alpha dog with a title already because you've been unable to win one on your own. Seriously, if he goes to Miami, he becomes my least favorite athlete ever. Forever ever? Forever ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Lee for Anthony Randolph's supposedly a go if Lebron falls through. Which would be ****ing awesome. Randolph would be fantastic in D'Antoni's system. One obstacle... Lee has to want to play in Golden State - a team that has won less than 30 games in back-to-back years. Considering that he has played for sub-35 win teams his entire career and that he has zero ties to California, the only way I can see him going is if it's for the extra year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 80's-90's is tough because he's a tweener-SF. Best I can say is Tayshaun Prince or Odom even in terms of a skill-set. But he's only 20 and his talent's absolutely through the roof. Attitude's been a concern but who knows with Nelson out in GS right now...he has a ton of work to do on his game but the sky really is the limit if he polishes his jump shot and bulks up because he's still too light to guard most PF's and he's not experienced enough yet to guard SF's. However if there's one thing that D'Antoni has a fantastic track record in terms of development in, it's bringing along players like this (Diaw, Barbosa, Bell), and he's twice as talented as any of them. If you want to go back a little further, he's a mix of a pre-sperm donor, pre-obesity, pre-drugs Shawn Kemp and a less physically mature David Robinson. He could be that good, as he's yet to even turn 21, but he needs to mature both physically and mentally. I love the thought of adding his shot-blocking ability to the Knicks, as it's something they've been sorely missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Miami is my second choice for him after NYK. I'm a bigger fan of the NBA than I am of the Knicks, and LeBron winning a title as the Lucky Pierre of Miami Thrice makes his career arc far more interesting than his winning one as Evolutionary Willis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Wojoahole's latest article says this: LeBron James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 One obstacle... Lee has to want to play in Golden State - a team that has won less than 30 games in back-to-back years. Considering that he has played for sub-35 win teams his entire career and that he has zero ties to California, the only way I can see him going is if it's for the extra year. At this point I think the guy's top two priorities are security and money. That's why I think he'll take a sign and trade, regardless of location, as long as it's close to max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 At this point I think the guy's top two priorities are security and money. That's why I think he'll take a sign and trade, regardless of location, as long as it's close to max. According to the local papers out there in Oakland, GS is willing to pay Lee close to $13 million his first year. They're really high on him, so that may be the best money he can get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 At this point I think the guy's top two priorities are security and money. That's why I think he'll take a sign and trade, regardless of location, as long as it's close to max. Max for Lee (5 yrs of service) is around $14.5 million (25% of $58.04m cap). With the 10.5% annual increases he is allowed under a Bird rights contract, a 6-yr max deal for him is worth around $113m. Throw out the last year to compare what he can get as a free agent on a 5-yr deal, and that brings the total to $89.5m/5 yrs. His equivalent max with the 8% annual increases as an unrestricted free agent brings the 5-year total to $85 million. Assume now that he won't get as much money as Boozer, so figure his first-year salary is around $13m. That makes the 5-yr free agent contract worth $76m, versus the Bird rights deal that brings it up to $80m over the first 5 years. Looking at the numbers, the only thing the sign-and-trade does is give him the security of the extra year (which obviously includes nice money as well), but is it enough to willingly ship off to another completely dysfunctional team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 According to the local papers out there in Oakland, GS is willing to pay Lee close to $13 million his first year. They're really high on him, so that may be the best money he can get anywhere. If they start at $13m and give him the max annual increases via a sign-and-trade, that makes it a 6-year deal worth about $101m. Not terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Nice read on Randolph from the Warrior fans perspective: Famed journalist Eric Sevareid once observed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Latest development is that Amar'e is coming via a sign-and-trade, where the Knicks send the Suns a $16.5m trade exception, and get back Phoenix's 2nd Rd pick in addition to saving $800k against the cap on Amar'e's contract this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 So Alan Hahn's July 6th tweet is starting to make sense. Supposedly this special's been in the works for a few months, meaning the past week's just been a buildup for it by the network. "We've all been played by ESPN." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 So Alan Hahn's July 6th tweet is starting to make sense. Supposedly this special's been in the works for a few months, meaning the past week's just been a buildup for it by the network. "We've all been played by ESPN." Which is why I said is it any surprise that yesterday it was like OMG KNICKS!!! This just makes LeBron seem like an ass no matter what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 From nykfanpage... Amare is on Mac and Tierney, they asked him about LeBron and whether Amare will be watching LeBron's news conference. Amare's answer: "I'll be working out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 From nykfanpage... Amare is on Mac and Tierney, they asked him about LeBron and whether Amare will be watching LeBron's news conference. Amare's answer: "I'll be working out." Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Simmons' article is pretty good. Its on the front of ESPN.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Simmons' article is pretty good. Its on the front of ESPN.com I think it's a cop-out. Any super-competitive person would rather beat Dwyane Wade than play with him. Don't you want to find the Ali to your Frazier and have that rival pull the greatness out of you? That's why I'm holding out hope that LeBron signs with New York or Chicago (or stays in Cleveland), because he'd be saying, "Fine. Kobe, Dwight and Melo all have their teams. Wade and Bosh have their team. The Celtics are still there. Durant's team is coming. I'm gonna go out and build MY team, and I'm kicking all their asses." That's what Jordan would have done. Hell, that's what Kobe would have done. In May, after the Cavs were ousted in the conference semifinals, I wrote that LeBron was facing one of the greatest sports decisions ever: "winning (Chicago), loyalty (Cleveland) or a chance at immortality (New York)." I never thought he would pick "HELP!" This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 This.AMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 The whole Simmons article is good. Princess Jaime it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Anyone watch Amare's press conference? It looked like a funeral....ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Multiple reports have the Lee for Randolph swap as being all but done, pending LeBron's decision. Knicks get back Randolph, Turiaf, and Azubuike. For a guy the Knicks were going to let walk, this is a heist IMO - and one of epic proportions if Randolph develops into the player he is capable of becoming. It will be nice to finally have some guys who can block a shot on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Multiple reports have the Lee for Randolph swap as being all but done, pending LeBron's decision. Knicks get back Randolph, Turiaf, and Azubuike. For a guy the Knicks were going to let walk, this is a heist IMO - and one of epic proportions if Randolph develops into the player he is capable of becoming. It will be nice to finally have some guys who can block a shot on this team. Excellent move by Walsh BUT that's not a heist. GS can't sign Lee outright and according to reports out of Oakland they absolutely LOVE Lee. This is a win-win for both teams if Randolph works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Multiple reports have the Lee for Randolph swap as being all but done, pending LeBron's decision. Knicks get back Randolph, Turiaf, and Azubuike. For a guy the Knicks were going to let walk, this is a heist IMO - and one of epic proportions if Randolph develops into the player he is capable of becoming. It will be nice to finally have some guys who can block a shot on this team. I really can not properly exhibit how excited I am about this over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Excellent move by Walsh BUT that's not a heist. GS can't sign Lee outright and according to reports out of Oakland they absolutely LOVE Lee. This is a win-win for both teams if Randolph works out. Any time you can add cheap, young talent in return for a player that is about to walk without having to take on any bad long-term contracts, it's a heist in my book. I think it still leaves them nearly $14m under the cap as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I think an overlooked story is how there haven't really been any efforts to upgrade the 2. Which bodes well for how they feel about Walker. Unless they plan on bringing T-Mac back, but that doesn't look realistic at this point. And to tell you the truth I don't have a problem with it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 CARMELO, DON'T SIGN THE EXTENSION!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 New rumor is that since Dolan called on Isiah to help in the LeBron recruitment that Dolan will bring back Isaiah to run the team in 2011 and even be the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 New rumor is that since Dolan called on Isiah to help in the LeBron recruitment that Dolan will bring back Isaiah to run the team in 2011 and even be the HC. I think you mean "new snide comment by Frank Isola." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 CARMELO, DON'T SIGN THE EXTENSION!!!!!! 2011 Year of the Melo! WE NEED YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I seriously hate LeBron James, what an attention seeking overrated, overyhyped POS he is. 1 hour special for a signing or maybe even for an extension? Are you ****ing kidding me? Guy has won 0 championships! What a complete clown. **** off to Miami and ride Dwyane Wade for some titles you ****ing turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I seriously hate LeBron James, what an attention seeking overrated, overyhyped POS he is. 1 hour special for a signing or maybe even for an extension? Are you ****ing kidding me? Guy has won 0 championships! What a complete clown. **** off to Miami and ride Dwyane Wade for some titles you ****ing turd. I agree what an attention whore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 New rumor is that since Dolan called on Isiah to help in the LeBron recruitment that Dolan will bring back Isaiah to run the team in 2011 and even be the HC.ESPN is reporting the same thing. More proof Dolan couldn't run a paper route. Also, Michael Jordan hates Thomas. Jordan is James' idol. Further, what does that say about Walsh and D'Antoni? WTF is Thomas, the Knicks' Billy Martin? Jim Dolan is a walking talking asshat argument for a 100% inheritance tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 ESPN is reporting the same thing. More proof Dolan couldn't run a paper route. Also, Michael Jordan hates Thomas. Jordan is James' idol. Further, what does that say about Walsh and D'Antoni? WTF is Thomas, the Knicks' Billy Martin? Jim Dolan is a walking talking asshat argument for a 100% inheritance tax. maybe the nets are behind the rumor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 How long is Isiah going to live off of one lucky draft pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I seriously hate LeBron James, what an attention seeking overrated, overyhyped POS he is. 1 hour special for a signing or maybe even for an extension? Are you ****ing kidding me? Guy has won 0 championships! What a complete clown. **** off to Miami and ride Dwyane Wade for some titles you ****ing turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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