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Again, when owners are willing to shell out millions of bucks to pay these guys, it's like feeding raw meat inside a lion's cage.

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Why?

In the 90's, there were no rules against it. It improved your play, ultimately getting you paid more money. Hell, you'd be dumb not to take them at that point, especially if you were a fringe big leaguer.

This is the strangest argument and I see it all the time. Do you think baseball should make a rule against cocaine or is the country's law against cocaine good enough?

Steroids were and still are an illegal drug. You shouldn't need a 'rule' to make it illegal to a sport.

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This is the strangest argument and I see it all the time. Do you think baseball should make a rule against cocaine or is the country's law against cocaine good enough?

Steroids were and still are an illegal drug. You shouldn't need a 'rule' to make it illegal to a sport.

Sure, they're illegal....but they certainly dont have the same stigma as coke does. Nobody really bats an eye at someone for using steroids.

Steroids are part of America from high schools on up. MAybe not as much now...but even 10-15 years ago EVERYONE playing high school football was using steroids for the most part.

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Sure, they're illegal....but they certainly dont have the same stigma as coke does. Nobody really bats an eye at someone for using steroids.

Steroids are part of America from high schools on up. MAybe not as much now...but even 10-15 years ago EVERYONE playing high school football was using steroids for the most part.

I see where you are coming from on this but it still remains a law. Tons if kids smoke pot in high school and you don't need to make specific rules to keep it out.

Clearly i'm not saying that pot or coke help you in sports, merely pulling the comparison that you shouldn't have to make a 'rule' to ban it from sports that cover america's headlines. JMO...

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You mean like you consistently do with Clemens? Sure there have been allegations. Not an ounce of proof. Yet, you act like it's settled.

Don't be a hypocrite, Dierk. You're better than that.

Or as Yank Nation did with Ortiz? :rolleyes:

What we know about Roger is he is a grade A piece 'o $hit.

While his numbers did suffer for being on mediocre teams for the latter part of his Sawx career, a good portion of his failing numbers had to do with him being Fat Roger. You cannot blame the +4 ERAs solely on bad teams and injuries. He was out of shape.

After spurning the Sox and going to be with a 'winner' and not for money :rolleyes:, he all of a sudden was in the best shape of his career.

Go look at baseball reference and see the pitcher that compares most to Clemens at each of his ages. It is Tom Seaver. Seaver had some decent years after turning 32, but nothing as great as his younger years. Roger consistently hit 200 innings and 190+ Ks a year up and into his 40s.

How many 40yo are as good today as they were in their mid-20s?

While Roger may not have done anabolic roids, it is clear he took something. Legal or illegal.

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Or as Yank Nation did with Ortiz? :rolleyes:

What we know about Roger is he is a grade A piece 'o $hit.

While his numbers did suffer for being on mediocre teams for the latter part of his Sawx career, a good portion of his failing numbers had to do with him being Fat Roger. You cannot blame the +4 ERAs solely on bad teams and injuries. He was out of shape.

After spurning the Sox and going to be with a 'winner' and not for money :rolleyes:, he all of a sudden was in the best shape of his career.

Go look at baseball reference and see the pitcher that compares most to Clemens at each of his ages. It is Tom Seaver. Seaver had some decent years after turning 32, but nothing as great as his younger years. Roger consistently hit 200 innings and 190+ Ks a year up and into his 40s.

How many 40yo are as good today as they were in their mid-20s?

While Roger may not have done anabolic roids, it is clear he took something. Legal or illegal.

No its not clear you moron. Clemens was known for his workout regimen. Not everyone who works out does roids. The guy with the most credibility in this whole thing said he didn't use them. That's good enough for me.

And Clemens did not "spurn" the Red Sox. He left because that asshead Dan Duquette didn't want him back, saying he was "in the twilight" of his career.

Boston fans always act like complete dickbrains whenever a player leaves, never blaming the organization even when its completely their fault like it was in Clemens case.

In Clemens case, a jackass of a GM drove him out of town. Blame Duquette, not Clemens.

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No its not clear you moron. Clemens was known for his workout regimen. Not everyone who works out does roids. The guy with the most credibility in this whole thing said he didn't use them. That's good enough for me.

And Clemens did not "spurn" the Red Sox. He left because that asshead Dan Duquette didn't want him back, saying he was "in the twilight" of his career.

Boston fans always act like complete dickbrains whenever a player leaves, never blaming the organization even when its completely their fault like it was in Clemens case.

In Clemens case, a jackass of a GM drove him out of town. Blame Duquette, not Clemens.

You're not wrong with Duquette and Clemens. You actually have a few fair points. The fact you can't make them without calling someone a name is classless and crude. Grow up.

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You're not wrong with Duquette and Clemens. You actually have a few fair points. The fact you can't make them without calling someone a name is classless and crude. Grow up.

Yeah, because PFSIKH's never insulted me. :rolleyes:

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let's go A-rod

he'll go down as the best roider of our generation

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A-Roid just got robbed at a chance to hit number 600 and win the game for the Yanks.

Tex was safe!

The umps SUCK!:banned:

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You're not wrong with Duquette and Clemens. You actually have a few fair points. The fact you can't make them without calling someone a name is classless and crude. Grow up.

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You're not wrong with Duquette and Clemens. You actually have a few fair points. The fact you can't make them without calling someone a name is classless and crude. Grow up.
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For the record...i was on Carl's side on that. Klecko is contradictive as hell and all about the personal attack...it's fun to watch him squirm out of past arguments about cheating.

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Schilling may have used.

But suspect utimately it's equally plausible he saw a lucrative career going down ths sheeter and took serious action about getting healthy and serious. Ironically some accounts state that turnaround took place when Clemens broke his balls about conditioning while Schilling was brielfy an Astro.

But who can say for sure?Sany Koufax sucked donkey balls as a bonus baby, and Mo Rivera was a negligible pitcher until arm surgery. You don't know.

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No its not clear you moron. Clemens was known for his workout regimen. Not everyone who works out does roids. The guy with the most credibility in this whole thing said he didn't use them. That's good enough for me.

And Clemens did not "spurn" the Red Sox. He left because that asshead Dan Duquette didn't want him back, saying he was "in the twilight" of his career.

Boston fans always act like complete dickbrains whenever a player leaves, never blaming the organization even when its completely their fault like it was in Clemens case.

In Clemens case, a jackass of a GM drove him out of town. Blame Duquette, not Clemens.

How does Roger's man seed taste?

40-39.

His record his last 4 seasons in Boston.

Yes, those Sox teams were not great (305-278), but he was barely a .500 pitcher.

Go look at his numbers (WHIP, K to BB ratio and averages per 9 innings) and they are all among the worst of his Boston career. Is that all injuries? No. He consistently showed up at Spring Training 20 or more pounds overweight. Maybe the reason for his injury problems?

Duq was an ass, but he was right on Rog-ah. Rog-ah did not give two ****s about Boston his last 4 years until it came time for a contract and all of a sudden the old Rog-ah appeared.

Then buoyed by going to a 'winner' in Toronto, he developed his famous workout habits. And you wonder why we despise him? He did not care. He lied. Gee I wonder why.....:rolleyes:

Again, I did not say he used roids or an illegal substance.

I am sure there is a logical reason his .634 winning percentage in Boston rose to .684 after leaving Boston. It is not all playing in NY where winning percentage is the lowest of his post-Boston career.

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