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Do you take your cornflakes with acid?

Get a clue Those teams need those players allot more than we need MEvi$!

MEvi$ would be more valuable to allot of other teams than he is to the Jets, particular to teams with no pass rush.

I don't expect you to see that clearly though, too much spunk on your MEvi$ colored glasses.

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I'd really love to see the look on any NFL GM's face if you tried telling them that $4m wasn't all that much within the salary cap.

3.1% of last years' cap. Hardly the cap busting emergency you'd think it is reading some posts here.

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In the history of the NFL, every Super Bowl has been won by a team who did not pay Darrelle Revis 16 million a year.

It's not a stretch to think that this feat can be accomplished again.

Sadly...even signed, the odds are that history would repeat itself and a Mevi$less team would still win the SB. :( .

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Can this thread have some more Rex Ryan love? Or John Connor wanting to destroy people? Nacho?

I love Rex Ryan. He's my Crusher of the dream world.

I was getting a kick out of his "hand picked" draft choice comments. He obviously loves the guy. I wonder if they carry both him an T. Rich. They are obviously a big of his leadership. And quite honestly, I'd rather bring Conner along rather than throw him to the wolves.

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I was getting a kick out of his "hand picked" draft choice comments. He obviously loves the guy. I wonder if they carry both him an T. Rich. They are obviously a big of his leadership. And quite honestly, I'd rather bring Conner along rather than throw him to the wolves.

Conner's a lock for the roster, but I think they wind up keeping TRich for his veteran presence as much as anything else. Greene is stepping up into a larger role, LT and McKnight are newcomers, TRich can serve as the anchor of the group. I could imagine a scenario where Conner takes over the FB job the way Greene took over the RB job last year.

I wish they had better backup RB's in camp. I'd love for them to have a decent young guy to carry on the practice squad all year.

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I love Rex Ryan. He's my Crusher of the dream world.

I was getting a kick out of his "hand picked" draft choice comments. He obviously loves the guy. I wonder if they carry both him an T. Rich. They are obviously a big of his leadership. And quite honestly, I'd rather bring Conner along rather than throw him to the wolves.

All I know is that Jason Davis is screwed. Hopefully he gets picked up when he inevitably gets let go.

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You're a towel.

The Jets have already agreed to $12M. So they presumably have that worked out. In a worst case scenario where they pay Revis his $16M, that's only $4M more than what they've already budgeted for. They can make adjustments to accomodate those additional $4M. Trying to inflate the numbers by multiple years doesn't alter that.

But your entire premise is that the $12 million they are offering Revis is already no big deal and won't make any difference to the team, despite the massive increase in pay and cap space that it already accounts for. Which there is no basis for saying that. Just because the Jets are willing to offer that much, doesn't mean it wouldn't be without consequence. Then you're saying, they need to take the maximum amount they feel they could reasonably work out to give him (with whatever adjustments they would need to make to accommodate that), and then give him another $4 million on top of that every year, and then supposedly it still won't cause any problems. And it's not a one year contract, so yes, the value beyond just this year has a significant impact on future dealings of the Jets.

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I love Rex Ryan. He's my Crusher of the dream world.

I was getting a kick out of his "hand picked" draft choice comments. He obviously loves the guy. I wonder if they carry both him an T. Rich. They are obviously a big of his leadership. And quite honestly, I'd rather bring Conner along rather than throw him to the wolves.

I think whether Richardson stays or goes is entirely up to him. He's been contemplating retirement and has already said the Jets will be his last team. At this point, he'll go through camp, and I guarantee there will be a spot waiting for him on that roster. However, the Jets will tell him the deal as far as what his role will be and any reduction / limiting there would be with the addition of Conner, and it will be his choice whether or not he stays on. I really believe the Jets are leaving it up to him as to when he decides to retire and thus end his time with the team. While Conner needs to get some work in this season, who would be opposed to him learning the ropes from one of the best to play the position.

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This year's Hard Knocks will be a tough act to follow

Posted by Mike Florio on August 12, 2010 1:32 PM ETEarlier today, the FedEx man showed up at my doorstep with a package from our friends at NFL Films. Inside? A DVD of the first episode of Hard Knocks, which debuted last night on HBO.

Missing? A note from Rex Ryan that said, "Merry f--king Christmas."

Even without a cover letter from Rex, it's excellent. It's always been an excellent production; it's now even more excellent because the folks at HBO and NFL Films have gotten the right team at the right time under the right circumstances.

And it's already making us -- and surely HBO and NFL Films -- wonder how in the hell they'll ever be able to follow it up.

Complicating matters is the reality that some coaches, G.M.'s, team presidents, and/or owners never will agree to permit cameras into every nook and cranny of their training camps, regardless of Vince Lombardi's belief that cameras made his players try harder. We'd be shocked if, for example, the Dolphins (Bill Parcells), the Patriots (Bill Belichick), the Chiefs (Scott Pioli), or the Browns (Eric Mangini) ever would sign up for Hard Knocks detail. Recently, Lions coach Jim Schwartz (who worked for Belichick in Cleveland) said he wouldn't want to do it, either.

Other teams will be glad to oblige. The Cowboys likely would do it every year. The Texans wanted to do it this year. Pete Carroll probably will throw the Seahawks into the mix for 2011 (if there is a training camp in 2011).

But even more coaches likely will want nothing to do with Hard Knocks if the Jets underperform in the season during which they were featured.

Still, even if there is another compelling team that volunteers for Hard Knocks next year or in the future, we can't imagine any being as interesting as the 2010 Jets.

Maybe they should just feature the Jets every year. We have a feeling that Ryan would be willing to do it.

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Conner's a lock for the roster, but I think they wind up keeping TRich for his veteran presence as much as anything else. Greene is stepping up into a larger role, LT and McKnight are newcomers, TRich can serve as the anchor of the group. I could imagine a scenario where Conner takes over the FB job the way Greene took over the RB job last year.

I wish they had better backup RB's in camp. I'd love for them to have a decent young guy to carry on the practice squad all year.

Agreed with all of this. T-Rich seems to be the type of guy who won't resent showing Connor the ropes and we need his presence after we lost TJ, who by all accounts was a very large locker room presence

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This year's Hard Knocks will be a tough act to follow

Posted by Mike Florio on August 12, 2010 1:32 PM ETEarlier today, the FedEx man showed up at my doorstep with a package from our friends at NFL Films. Inside? A DVD of the first episode of Hard Knocks, which debuted last night on HBO.

Missing? A note from Rex Ryan that said, "Merry f--king Christmas."

Even without a cover letter from Rex, it's excellent. It's always been an excellent production; it's now even more excellent because the folks at HBO and NFL Films have gotten the right team at the right time under the right circumstances.

And it's already making us -- and surely HBO and NFL Films -- wonder how in the hell they'll ever be able to follow it up.

Complicating matters is the reality that some coaches, G.M.'s, team presidents, and/or owners never will agree to permit cameras into every nook and cranny of their training camps, regardless of Vince Lombardi's belief that cameras made his players try harder. We'd be shocked if, for example, the Dolphins (Bill Parcells), the Patriots (Bill Belichick), the Chiefs (Scott Pioli), or the Browns (Eric Mangini) ever would sign up for Hard Knocks detail. Recently, Lions coach Jim Schwartz (who worked for Belichick in Cleveland) said he wouldn't want to do it, either.

Other teams will be glad to oblige. The Cowboys likely would do it every year. The Texans wanted to do it this year. Pete Carroll probably will throw the Seahawks into the mix for 2011 (if there is a training camp in 2011).

But even more coaches likely will want nothing to do with Hard Knocks if the Jets underperform in the season during which they were featured.

Still, even if there is another compelling team that volunteers for Hard Knocks next year or in the future, we can't imagine any being as interesting as the 2010 Jets.

Maybe they should just feature the Jets every year. We have a feeling that Ryan would be willing to do it.

We're so cool :D

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Didn't notice if this was posted yet. For my buddy, BP.

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Rex apologizes for cursing during 'Hard Knocks'

Last Updated: 4:52 PM, August 12, 2010

Posted: 4:11 PM, August 12, 2010

CORTLAND -- Rex Ryan's mother has already scolded him. A little soap might be next for the Jets' foul-mouthed coach.

After a Rex-pletive-filled appearance in the premiere episode of HBO's "Hard Knocks" on Wednesday night, Ryan got a call from Mom. And, then, like a good son, he said he was sorry.

"Sometimes you get rolling and that's what happens," Ryan said Thursday. "I don't know why. I apologize if I offended more people than I usually offend."

Swearing is nothing new for NFL coaches - or coaches in other sports, for that matter. It's just rare for fans to hear it on national TV. "Hard Knocks" is an uncensored look at the Jets through training camp.

"You don't even realize you're saying it," said Ryan, whose father, Buddy, was known to toss around a choice word or two during his NFL coaching career.

"My Mom's the only one really disappointed that I care about."

It didn't bother any of the players, who said that's just who Ryan is.

"Skip the F-bombs and everything else," defensive lineman Sione Pouha said. "You can really feel that this guy is passionate about what he does and is passionate about his players."

The curses aside, some viewers may have been more offended by some explicit scenes in the HBO vampire series "True Blood," which aired just before "Hard Knocks."

"Can't blame that one on me," Ryan said, laughing.

The first episode of the five-part "Hard Knocks" series touched on several topics, including star cornerback Darrelle Revis' holdout, the team's newest stars, players trying to hook on and playful banter between the coaches and the players.

"I watched it in my dorm room," Pouha said. "Had a couple of brownies - that's probably a $5 fine - but watched it in the room and the encore as well. It was quite entertaining."

Veteran pass rusher Jason Taylor, one of the newest Jets, was one of a handful of players who didn't watch.

"We're living it," he said. "We go through training camp all day. The last thing you want to do is watch training camp on TV."

One of the more entertaining scenes included Ryan going up against general manager Mike Tannenbaum in a punt-pass-kick competition. Tannenbaum went head-over-heels while unsuccessfully trying to field a punt.

"There's some people who probably watched it over and over," a smiling Ryan said - likely referring to Revis' agents.

"I don't know if people get used to seeing coaches and the GM having fun," linebacker Bart Scott said. "You're not used to seeing fun. So, we like to have fun. I think (people) get a greater appreciation of how we go about our business."

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