JonEJet Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Here we go I don't want to dislike the guy, but I sure am starting to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Oh well guess he's holding out. Gotta feed his family and a MEASLY 1 Million just will not do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Oh well guess he's holding out. Gotta feed his family and a MEASLY 1 Million just will not do. he just wants to be the 'star' of episode one of Hard Knocks..I smell Diva status coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 He's trapped on his island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Oh well guess he's holding out. Gotta feed his family and a MEASLY additional 1 Million just will not do. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 As long as he's on the field week 1 it really makes no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Wilson to take over the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Darrelle Revis skips the start of training camp Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 1, 2010 10:39 AM ET After months of maneuvering and speculation, Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis has decided to go through with his training camp holdout. Jenny Vrentas of the Newark Star-Ledger was first to report that Revis was a no-show for his morning physical and conditioning run on Sunday. At this point, we would have been surprised if Revis showed for camp. (The Jets say Revis isn't officially a holdout until 5:30 P.M. All right, then.) Recent reports indicated that the Jets and Revis are talking contract again, but Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News reported no new formal offer has been made. With the team's rookie class now under contract, the front office will focus on Revis. We suspect this holdout could be a lengthy one, but it makes too much sense for the sides not to reach a contract agreement before the season starts. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 If he wants to hold out, let him rot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 He's in camp, he's not in camp...he's holding out, he's not holding out. Someone needs to sh*t or get off the damn pot...and I'm not talking the smoking variety...well, maybe that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Revis is doing the smart thing for himself, his family, and his future. I cannot understand how anyone can fault the man. The Jets should do the smart thing for the franchise and pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 He should hold out....he's getting paid nothing essentially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Revis is doing the smart thing for himself, his family, and his future. I cannot understand how anyone can fault the man. The Jets should do the smart thing for the franchise and pay him. Pay him $16 million a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Revis is doing the smart thing for himself, his family, and his future. I cannot understand how anyone can fault the man. The Jets should do the smart thing for the franchise and pay him. Isnt it amazing how fans have this sense of enititlment they expect from the players like they owe them something. Fact is, Revis owes the Jets and their fans absolutely nothing. This is a business just like any other, there is zero loyalty and anyone who says theyre loyal are yonh....and any other red blooded American on here would want to get paid what they're worth at their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Mean while Mangold and Harris are in camp. I'd lock them up first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Pay him $16 million a year? Both sides need to negotiate, but Revis would be a complete fool to play for "just" $1M this year with no guarantees going forward when he could lose his ability to earn in a split second on the practice field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Both sides need to negotiate, but Revis would be a complete fool to play for "just" $1M this year with no guarantees going forward when he could lose his ability to earn in a split second on the practice field. He wants more money than Assmooha is getting this year. It seems if he doesnt get that he won't be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 He wants more money than Assmooha is getting this year. It seems if he doesnt get that he won't be satisfied. You spoke to him? Because there are conflicting reports. Some say he'd be good with $10M a year, as long as there are some guarantees. Just let it play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Isnt it amazing how fans have this sense of enititlment they expect from the players like they owe them something. Fact is, Revis owes the Jets and their fans absolutely nothing. This is a business just like any other, there is zero loyalty and anyone who says theyre loyal are yonh....and any other red blooded American on here would want to get paid what they're worth at their job. You're right. Mr Island doesn't owe the fans diddly. He does owe the organization because if I recall, he still has a contract and in business, as you pointed out, you show up for work or you get fined or fired. As a fan though, we invest heavy coin to see our teams on Sundays...maybe the situation doesn't piss you off, but it does me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 You spoke to him? Because there are conflicting reports. Some say he'd be good with $10M a year, as long as there are some guarantees. Just let it play out. Revis signed a contract with the NY Jets. The Jets have upheld their end of the contract and Revis is now in breach of his. If Revis wants to make a stink and not show up the Jets should make a solid offer (maybe 10M/yr) and let Revis know he can take the 10M/yr or play out his existing contract, or never set foot on the field again because the Jets own his rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 You're right. Mr Island doesn't owe the fans diddly. He does owe the organization because if I recall, he still has a contract and in business, as you pointed out, you show up for work or you get fined or fired. As a fan though, we invest heavy coin to see our teams on Sundays...maybe the situation doesn't piss you off, but it does me. Why does he owe the organization? The same organization that promised him a new contract? Anyone who thought Revis was going to play this season for that amount is delusional. The guy deserves to be paid...the Jets need to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Revis signed a contract with the NY Jets. The Jets have upheld their end of the contract and Revis is now in breach of his. If Revis wants to make a stink and not show up the Jets should make a solid offer (maybe 10M/yr) and let Revis know he can take the 10M/yr or play out his existing contract, or never set foot on the field again because the Jets own his rights. Word, and take care of the guys who showed up first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 He wants more money than Assmooha is getting this year. It seems if he doesnt get that he won't be satisfied. Trade his ass to Oakland. Its obstacles like this we dont need this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 You spoke to him? Because there are conflicting reports. Some say he'd be good with $10M a year, as long as there are some guarantees. Just let it play out. No need to be nasty, Im basing this off what I've read and the reports on ESPN. he also says if he gets a $0.25 more than Assmooha he'll be happy. It's "Important to him to be the highest paid corner in the league" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistalava Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Mean while Mangold and Harris are in camp. I'd lock them up first! Bingo! Until Revis' camp starts showing some flexibility, there are no legitimate negotiations going on. Better to lock up key players who have some concept of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Bingo! Until Revis' camp starts showing some flexibility, there are no legitimate negotiations going on. Better to lock up key players who have some concept of reality. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 You're right. Mr Island doesn't owe the fans diddly. He does owe the organization because if I recall, he still has a contract and in business, as you pointed out, you show up for work or you get fined or fired. As a fan though, we invest heavy coin to see our teams on Sundays...maybe the situation doesn't piss you off, but it does me. If Revis were your son, what would your advice to him be? Would you advise him to play for that $1M? Your son Revis might remind you how his friend Leon Washington bet on himself, got injured, and lost big time. He was in line to make multi-millions, and not will never see that kind of money. Would you want your kid to take that kind of risk, or would you want him to get some security up front first? I know how I'd be advising my kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Bingo! Until Revis' camp starts showing some flexibility, there are no legitimate negotiations going on. Better to lock up key players who have some concept of reality. Paying Revis was he's due is more unrealistic than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 No need to be nasty, Im basing this off what I've read and the reports on ESPN. he also says if he gets a $0.25 more than Assmooha he'll be happy. It's "Important to him to be the highest paid corner in the league" I don't mean to be nasty. I like you. Just pointing out that there are conflicting reports. Bingo! Until Revis' camp starts showing some flexibility, there are no legitimate negotiations going on. Better to lock up key players who have some concept of reality. Again, how do you know that Revis' camp is showing no flexibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 If Revis were your son, what would your advice to him be? Would you advise him to play for that $1M? Your son Revis might remind you how his friend Leon Washington bet on himself, got injured, and lost big time. He was in line to make multi-millions, and not will never see that kind of money. Would you want your kid to take that kind of risk, or would you want him to get some security up front first? I know how I'd be advising my kid. That's the chance you take when you turn down your offers, which both Leon and Revis have done. It's his prerogative to holdout, if he does I say let him rot! Resign Mangold and Harris first, they showed up to camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillie Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Both sides need to negotiate, but Revis would be a complete fool to play for "just" $1M this year with no guarantees going forward when he could lose his ability to earn in a split second on the practice field. He's not just playing for $1M this year. You can't disregard the guaranteed money he recieved as part of his contract before he ever lined up for an NFL snap. Revis's current contract pays him $36 million over 6 years. He has collected about $15 million of that to date, including a $5 million bonus and about $6 million in other guaranteed money. When evaluating what he makes per year, you can not ONLY consider his salary for this year and disregard the "up front" bonus money and guarantees he also pocketed to date, which in this case makes up the majority of his overall salary. When you want money up front and get it, that always automatically reduces the traditional "yearly" salary. That's the price you pay for guaranteed money. I have no sympathy for Darelle Revis. He put his name to a 6 year contract knowing the agreement at the time and received an AGREEABLE amount of money for his services, including what was, at the time, a ton of money for a CB, especially an unproven one. That's the gamble associated with front loading a long term contract with guaranteed money. You can't have the best of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 He's not just playing for $1M this year. You can't disregard the guaranteed money he recieved as part of his contract before he ever lined up for an NFL snap. Revis's current contract pays him $36 million over 6 years. He has collected about $15 million of that to date, including a $5 million bonus and about $6 million in other guaranteed money. When evaluating what he makes per year, you can not ONLY consider his salary for this year and disregard the "up front" bonus money and guarantees he also pocketed to date, which in this case makes up the majority of his overall salary. When you want money up front and get it, that always automatically reduces the traditional "yearly" salary. That's the price you pay for guaranteed money. I have no sympathy for Darelle Revis. He put his name to a 6 year contract knowing the agreement at the time and received an AGREEABLE amount of money for his services, including what was at the time, a ton of money for a CB, especiially an unproven one. That's the gamble associated with front loading a long term contract with guaranteed money. You can't have the best of both worlds. Excellent post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 If Revis were your son, what would your advice to him be? Would you advise him to play for that $1M? Your son Revis might remind you how his friend Leon Washington bet on himself, got injured, and lost big time. He was in line to make multi-millions, and not will never see that kind of money. Would you want your kid to take that kind of risk, or would you want him to get some security up front first? I know how I'd be advising my kid. Isnt Revis currently UNDER CONTRACT---He should be FINED for not being in camp!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 It's his prerogative to holdout, if he does I say let him rot! It is absolutely his prerogative! Bravo to you! I think it's a smart move on his part, because the Jets won't let him rot. They'll either pay him, or trade him to someone who will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 If Revis were your son, what would your advice to him be? Would you advise him to play for that $1M? Your son Revis might remind you how his friend Leon Washington bet on himself, got injured, and lost big time. He was in line to make multi-millions, and not will never see that kind of money. Would you want your kid to take that kind of risk, or would you want him to get some security up front first? I know how I'd be advising my kid. First off, I would advise my son to STFU and keep your face and remarks out of the media. Either go to camp or stay out. Don't be pulling this yo-yo crap every few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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