SoFlaJets Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 This is all going to come down to guarantees, which means it really comes down to Woody's willingness to write a check. Instead, our owner is acting like a clown. White-collar Woody wears a white-on-white Jets ensemble to the ESPN interview. He then proceeds to complain about paying big bucks to his best player. I think this says it all. Rex can get away with this kind of garbage — Woody can't. Huh? Wha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Huh? Wha? You didn't see the teaser for Woody's E:60 interview with Jeremy Schapp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 You didn't see the teaser for Woody's E:60 interview with Jeremy Schapp? no I refuse to watch any of those shows right now-Friggin Revis is going to turn into Brett Favre and I hate the Diva routine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 no I refuse to watch any of those shows right now-Friggin Revis is going to turn into Brett Favre and I hate the Diva routine Revis isn't doing anything. He's gone into the dark. It's our owner pining for the cameras like Mr. Crocs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Revis isn't doing anything. He's gone into the dark. It's our owner pining for the cameras like Mr. Crocs. he has that luxury-Woody Johnson doesn't-he has a team to run. Revis only has to make due with his pittance he's already earned and make silly videos with his friends while he and his buddies cower away from Twitter and the national and local media cameras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 he has that luxury-Woody Johnson doesn't-he has a team to run. Revis only has to make due with his pittance he's already earned and make silly videos with his friends while he and his buddies cower away from Twitter and the national and local media cameras Let's be serious: Woody did not have to do an ESPN special. He's going by the old "any news is good news" train of thought in order to drum up as much PSL hype as possible. In terms of Revis, the man is fighting for his big pay day — the culmination of everything he's worked for in life. After watching him erase WRs on a continual basis last year, I can't say I blame him. And he shouldn't have to sell himself short on the behalf of ANYONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Let's be serious: Woody did not have to do an ESPN special. He's going by the old "any news is good news" train of thought in order to drum up as much PSL hype as possible. In terms of Revis, the man is fighting for his big pay day — the culmination of everything he's worked for in life. After watching him erase WRs on a continual basis last year, I can't say I blame him. And he shouldn't have to sell himself short on the behalf of ANYONE. One great year does not a career make my friend ONE, not 3: ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 One great year does not a career make my friend ONE, not 3: ONE Dude, did you watch him play last year? He absolutely dominated a position that allows zero wiggle room for error. Really, aberration isn't even part of the equation. I understand you aren't on Revis' side, but give the guy his due. He's the best CB in the game right now — and that ain't gonna change overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Dude, did you watch him play last year? He absolutely dominated a position that allows zero wiggle room for error. Really, aberration isn't even part of the equation. I understand you aren't on Revis' side, but give the guy his due. He's the best CB in the game right now — and that ain't gonna change overnight. no I love Revis man-I want him here on our team but the facts are the facts he was good his first 2 years and great last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Dude, did you watch him play last year? He absolutely dominated a position that allows zero wiggle room for error. Really, aberration isn't even part of the equation. I understand you aren't on Revis' side, but give the guy his due. He's the best CB in the game right now — and that ain't gonna change overnight. He is, he's just not in a position to be paid like the best CB in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 no I love Revis man-I want him here on our team but the facts are the facts he was good his first 2 years and great last year. I respect your opinion, but I think he was better than "great." In the peak of the pass-happy NFL era, he relegated No. 1 receivers about as useless as high school ones. With high-flying offenses here to stay, Revis' value can't be overstated. He isn't merely a luxury — he's a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 To call him a necessity is beyond outrageous, implying that it's impossible to win the SB without Darrelle Revis. Because no team has won a SB without Darrelle Revis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 To call him a necessity is beyond outrageous, implying that it's impossible to win the SB without Darrelle Revis. Because no team has won a SB without Darrelle Revis... Most teams with true Super Bowl aspirations don't have a second-year QB prone to making bone-headed decisions that leave the defense in compromising positions. Every team is constructed differently, so to make the argument that "no team has won a SB without Darelle Revis" is incredibly short-sighted. In the case of the NYJ, Darrelle Revis is Peyton Manning. Don't believe me? Listen to any Rex Ryan press-conference from last year. He only said it till he was blue in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Most teams with true Super Bowl aspirations don't have a second-year QB prone to making bone-headed decisions that leave the defense in compromising positions. Every team is constructed differently, so to make the argument that "no team has won a SB without Darelle Revis" is incredibly short-sighted. In the case of the NYJ, Darrelle Revis is Peyton Manning. Don't believe me? Listen to any Rex Ryan press-conference from last year. He only said it till he was blue in the face. Rex says a lot of things, he'll tell you Sanchez is Peyton Manning if you ask him. We are constructed differently and we may not win a SB without Revis, but you're assuming we'll win one with him and although we'll have a good shot next season, what about after that. When we can't pay Mangold/Harris/Edwards/Holmes and eventually the contender is torn apart because Revis has left us with nothing to work with. Nope. I say let him rot until he drops his demands, then sign up our boys. Guys who are here to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Rex says a lot of things, he'll tell you Sanchez is Peyton Manning if you ask him. No, he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I respect your opinion, but I think he was better than "great." In the peak of the pass-happy NFL era, he relegated No. 1 receivers about as useless as high school ones. With high-flying offenses here to stay, Revis' value can't be overstated. He isn't merely a luxury — he's a necessity. You need a CB like Revis in today's NFL. Thats why the Raiders are so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 You need a CB like Revis in today's NFL. Thats why the Raiders are so good. Hollow. Do I have to go over the countless reasons the Raiders are horrible? Giving Russell $32 million guaranteed springs to mind. Giving ASO a huge deal, well, it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 If Revis shows up to camp tomorrow as a sign of good faith and destroys his knee in a drill, would all of you guys still be calling him "greedy" and "selfish" as Tannenbaum fed him to the sharks like he did with Leon? Give me a break. He's an NFL player. He gets one chance at the big money and this is that chance and somehow he's single-handedly costing the Jets their chance at a Super Bowl? It's August 9th. When he signs before the third pre-season game and gets his money, then proceeds to shut down receivers time and again, I think we'll all get over the evils that Revis hath perpetrated here against us, the Church, and the American way. first of all the guy is under contract...if he doesn't feel he should play for 1 million dollars this year then i could see his point. but if his stance is that he won't play for anything less than one dollar more than aso money then he's a POS imo. and leon was offered a fair contract for a back-up rb and he decided to get greedy and it wound up backfiring on him. that was all his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 In terms of Revis, the man is fighting for his big pay day — OK, you seem to have all the answers. How much is too much? What amount would revis have to demand for you to say, "this is unreasonable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 OK, you seem to have all the answers. How much is too much? What amount would revis have to demand for you to say, "this is unreasonable". Honestly, I don't really care how much it takes. With no salary cap this year, Woody can open up his pocket book and hand over a beefy signing bonus of guaranteed money. This is all it is coming down to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Honestly, I don't really care how much it takes. With no salary cap this year, Woody can open up his pocket book and hand over a beefy signing bonus of guaranteed money. This is all it is coming down to. Sure. If it is superbowl or bust this year with no salary cap ... why not offer revis an eight year deal with all the big money coming this year. Get him here and have him locked up with low cap numbers for the rest of his career ... THEN say screw him if he decides to hold out again. He will have gotten a big pay day and we got him for the season we needed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Some people get it, some people don't. No use in explaining it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Some people get it, some people don't. No use in explaining it anymore. so if Revis is "mevis" for wanting more... what is Woody? Cheapie? "Scrooge McWood" can we just come up with funny nicknames for all parties involved? that way we can all know who to root for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Honestly, I don't really care how much it takes. 100 million? 1 billion? No amount is unreasonable, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Honestly, I don't really care how much it takes. With no salary cap this year, Woody can open up his pocket book and hand over a beefy signing bonus of guaranteed money. This is all it is coming down to. Right, let's set up MEvi$ so he can hold out again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 so if Revis is "mevis" for wanting more... what is Woody? Cheapie? "Scrooge McWood" can we just come up with funny nicknames for all parties involved? that way we can all know who to root for? I'm fine with him wanting more. But he wants it all. Not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 so if Revis is "mevis" for wanting more... what is Woody? Cheapie? "Scrooge McWood" I know you are starting to understand the ethical dilemma of your argument when you start to create a false narrative (and all Revis apologists are using it, what a coincidence) to rationalize your position. This is NOT a revis vs woody thing. Woody has been gouging Jets fans since he's been here. That has nothing to do with revis taking the team hostage and putting a gun to everybody's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 100 million? 1 billion? No amount is unreasonable, right? ASO money — or right in that ballpark — is what Revis deserves. It isn't his fault Crazy Al set the standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Right, let's set up MEvi$ so he can hold out again next year. Exactly. Think of the (bad) precedent this would set. Any player, at any time during the life of his contract, can arbitrarily decide he's not making enough money, demand a new contract and a guaranteed signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Right, let's set up MEvi$ so he can hold out again next year. Nonsensical paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 ASO money — or right in that ballpark — is what Revis deserves. I'd love to see your scratch paper that you used to reach that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Nonsensical paranoia. Sure, it's not like he's on his 2nd hold out already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Nonsensical paranoia. Why is it nonsense? What would stop a player from repeating this process year after year? The signing bonus is pro-rated against the salary cap, so even if you cut the player for conduct detrimental to the team, or the player gets into a career ending car accident, everybody else is payed that much less because of it. It's greed and selfishness on any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Sure, it's not like he's on his 2nd hold out already. Is he underpaid? Yes or no? Will he be underpaid if he gets ASO money? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Love Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Is he underpaid? Yes or no? Yes. Nobody here said otherwise. You are injecting a strawman into the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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