SouthernJet Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 College crowd smokes 'spice' that imitates pot K2, or 'spice,' is a legal alternative to marijuana. As college students return to the Triangle, some are cracking open lip balm-size jars and plastic bags of a legal herb product that mimics the effects of marijuana. K2, or Spice, is a lab-made leafy green drug that looks and smells like oregano, with hints of blueberry, citrus and other flavors. The designer drug is showing up at tobacco and head shops, misleadingly labeled as "incense." The labels also inform buyers that the contents are not fit for human consumption, but behind closed doors the "incense" is being puffed as a legal alternative to marijuana. K2 and similar products have been outlawed in six states this year, including Tennessee, and six other states are considering banning the products. The U.S. Marine Corps has asked shops near its North Carolina bases not to sell the product to their troops, and the man who created the drug in a research lab warns of such side effects as increased heart rate and blood pressure and unpredictable effects on mood. The synthetic drug was created in the early 1990s, but started showing up in tobacco and convenience stores in the United States late last year. Bert Wood, chief executive officer of the N.C. Partnership for a Drug Free North Carolina, had to Google "K2" when he was asked about his organization's stand on the product. "I have never heard of it," Wood said. "But here's the big picture: Since cave people hit two sticks together to get sparks, we have looked at ways to feel different. If K2 mimics the effects of getting stoned, then we are not encouraging young people to use it." At least one state lawmaker says he intends to introduce legislation early next year to ban the product. Sen. William Purcell of Laurinburg sponsored a bill in 2009 that outlawed salvia, another herbal product, with hallucinogenic effects comparable to those of LSD and psilocybin. Purcell said he heard about K2 a couple of months ago. He says if he's re-elected this fall, he will investigate K2. "I'll probably take a look at it and get more information," he said from his Scotland County home. "Then we will see if something needs to be done about it." 'Selling like crazy' In the meantime, the drug is flying off the shelves of Triangle stores that carry it. "It's selling like crazy," said R.J. Crumpler, an employee at the Hazmat shop on Franklin Street, near UNC-Chapel Hill "More than cigarettes, more than pipe tobacco, posters or T-shirts." The prices vary, depending on the potency of the product, but K2 usually sells for $20 to $40 a gram. Crumpler figures the store sells at least 20 grams a day. "It's more than that on some days," he said. Blake Tippett, 26, is one of Hazmat's regular K2 customers. Blake is back in school at UNC-Chapel Hill this semester after leaving in 2007 when he hurt his back and underwent two surgeries. Puffing for pain relief Tippett said he finds it "rather interesting" that K2 is legal but thinks that will change quickly. Last week, he purchased about 6 grams of "Black Mamba," another powerful herb product. Tippett, who wants to work as a journalist when he graduates, said he's not happy about the prospect of K2 being outlawed. He said he smokes synthetic weed because it helps relieve the pain from back injuries that ruptured one disc and herniated another. "I'm in the category of those people who smoke because it has helped to make me a healthy, 200-pound person able to walk around without wearing a back brace," he said. Tippett said K2 and synthetic marijuana products like Black Mamba have helped his back pain "more than any other opiate under the sun." A potent, brief high N.C. State University sophomores Ethan Haynes and Kevin Catts haven't given much thought to the potential medical benefits of synthetic marijuana. They say they puff on K2 because it's fun. Haynes and Catts strolled into the Kitsch smoke shop off Hillsborough Street last week and went straight to the front counter where the shop features a full line of the herbal incense products. They pored over the K2 offerings: Standard, Spice, Blueberry, Blonde and Funky Monkey, before choosing the Summit brand, which sells for $30 a gram. Haynes says that students allover NCSU's campus are puffing on K2 and that he smokes it about once a week. He said the high kicks in about a minute after a couple of puffs. The high, although more potent than marijuana's, is short-lived - about 30 minutes to an hour. The substance in K2 that mimics the effects of marijuana is known as JWH-018. It was first developed in the summer of 1993 by John W. Huffman, an organic chemist at Clemson University. From JWH-018 to K2 Huffman developed the substance while looking for new pharmaceutical products similar to tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. The J, W, and H in the substance's name are Huffman's initials. The "018" acknowledges that the compound was the 18th cannabinoid that the lab developed. (Cannabinoid refers to the organic chemical substances in cannabis, or marijuana.) Last week, Huffman said his work did not lead to the development of any new legal medications. He did not receive a patent for his invention, and he did not sell the formula, which creates "a pale amber goo." So how did the compound wind up being sprayed as a light mist on dried leaves and sold as synthetic weed on the Internet and in head shops and tobacco stores across the country? "I assume that someone with some scientific knowledge found it in a publication in a scientific journal," Huffman said in an e-mail message last week. "It is inevitable that psychotropic compounds will find their way into commerce. There are greedy and irresponsible individuals worldwide. This is just another example." Huffman added that he receives no royalties from the sales of K2 or any other product that uses his formula. Terrie Sonya of Granite City, Ill., offers K2 for sale at her website, K24Sale.com. Sonya, who also sells the product out of a liquor store she owns, claims that she did not know people were smoking it as an alternative to marijuana. "I really don't know what people are doing with it when they take it out of the door," Sonya said. "We market it as incense and sell it as incense." Sonya said she started selling K2 in October and the product quickly outpaced her store's alcohol sales. She thinks pending legislation in Illinois to ban K2 would shut her business down. Huffman described the effects of the substance he developed as "considerably more potent" than marijuana. He warned that the product increases users' heart rate and blood pressure and has unpredictable effects on one's mood. So far, there has been no research to determine the long-term effects of smoking K2. Side effects reported But last month a New York Times blog fielded comments from readers who reported experiencing seizures, paranoia and heart problems after smoking the fake weed. The blog writer, Malcolm Gay, stated that the comments "are likely representative of the over 500 reports made to poison control centers across the country this year." Not every tobacco or head shop near a Triangle college campus sells K2. Smoke Rings, just across the street from Hazmat on Franklin Street, doesn't sell the stuff. Neither does Sam's Quik Shop on Ninth Street, near Duke University in Durham. Many of the head shops on Hillsborough Street carry the product, but their employees and managers declined to comment. After Catts and Haynes, the NCSU students, bought that bag of K2 last week, they mulled the possibilities of their next legal weed purchase. "Funky Monkey," Haynes suggested to Catts. "We should try that the next time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Huffman described the effects of the substance he developed as "considerably more potent" than marijuana. He warned that the product increases users' heart rate and blood pressure and has unpredictable effects on one's mood. So far, there has been no research to determine the long-term effects of smoking K2. Side effects reported But last month a New York Times blog fielded comments from readers who reported experiencing seizures, paranoia and heart problems after smoking the fake weed. The blog writer, Malcolm Gay, stated that the comments "are likely representative of the over 500 reports made to poison control centers across the country this year." whoa, totally not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Synthetic reefer. The stuff was selling like hotcakes in these parts until Kansas and Missouri made it illegal. The Law raided one head shop in Lawrence, KS (University of Kansas) shutting them down and seizing their bank accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I had to deal with a guy hopped up on this a few years back on a medical run. . Completely different animal than someone on weed. He was violent with our FD & Paramedics & I ended up having to drive him into the concrete once he started fighting me, just to get control and cuff him. He was completely out of his mind. I'd take a baked fool 1000x before a guy on K2 because K2 is bad news all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I had to deal with a guy hopped up on this a few years back on a medical run. . Completely different animal than someone on weed. He was violent with our FD & Paramedics & I ended up having to drive him into the concrete once he started fighting me, just to get control and cuff him. He was completely out of his mind. I'd take a baked fool 1000x before a guy on K2 because K2 is bad news all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 It's mumbo jumbo. Cannibus is a plant that grows here on Earth...K2 is some man made garbage like s lower level ecstasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 The substance in K2 that mimics the effects of marijuana is known as JWH-018. I searched pubmed.com for JWH-018, there seems to be no scientific research on it worth reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman_67 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Why a replacement? If you want to smoke pot, then smoke pot. I dont get the East coast mentality with this stuff. Here in Washington and in Cali, it will soon be legal. We were at Hemp fest last week, and people were walking around smoking and the cops there didnt care. My guess is if they werent on duty, they would have taken a hit or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Some college student needs to ID the pot 'drug gene' and insert it into dandelions. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'll stick with the original. Chronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'll stick with the original. Chronic. But this new stuff is legal and that will keep the pigs off your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman_67 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I had to deal with a guy hopped up on this a few years back on a medical run. . Completely different animal than someone on weed. He was violent with our FD & Paramedics & I ended up having to drive him into the concrete once he started fighting me, just to get control and cuff him. He was completely out of his mind. I'd take a baked fool 1000x before a guy on K2 because K2 is bad news all around. Weed doesnt tend to make people violent. if anything it mellows people. This stuff is not the same at all. Weed should be legal end of story with the same rules as alcohol. Besides it would help the economy in a sense. Companies like Frito-Lay would see huge increases in revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 i'd buy a bottle of this and stick regular weed in it when traveling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 But this new stuff is legal and that will keep the pigs off your back. Pigs dont knock on my door, but I do get your point though. Sometimes you just have to be decrete with what you do. If you're puffing away outside, you're asking for whatever comes your way. And anyone who knows villain knows that it takes alot for me to agree with a police "overseer"...I mean officer, but the bottomline is that they cant be wrong all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 i'd buy a bottle of this and stick regular weed in it when traveling sort of like melting hash oil on a regular ciggarette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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