Adalius wants to sign with Jets, Rex and him have talked, Jets want to wait until after week one

[Jetkid94]

Free agent linebacker Adalius Thomas told Sports Illustrated's Peter King that he is interested in signing with the Jets but that the team wouldn't be interested in signing him until after the first regular-season game of the year.

Reports floated this past offseason that the Jets contemplated signing Thomas, a 10-year veteran who played under Jets coach Rex Ryan when he was a defensive assistant with the Baltimore Ravens.

The flirtation between the team and player has been reignited since starting outside linebacker Calvin Pace suffered a broken bone in his right foot in the Jets' third preseason game last Friday. Pace is expected to miss six weeks.

Thomas told King that he hopes to sign with the Jets, claiming he will fit in well with the team. Ryan and Thomas spoke this weekend, according to the linebacker, but nothing is imminent and the primary speed bump, Thomas says, seems to be a financial one.

If the Jets do want to sign Thomas, they are hoping to wait until after Week 1 so they won't be obligated to pay the player's full salary if he is cut. Any player on the opening day roster has his salary paid in full for the year, even if he is cut -- whereas, a player signed during the season can be released and the team is only mandated to pay the portion of money guaranteed in the deal.

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2010/08/adalius_thomas_says_jets_not_i.html

[bitonti]

assuming they really want this player and think he can help them win... ditto coles...

what's a week 1 victory worth to the NYJ? less than the veteran's minimum.

If Jets dont want either player than fair enough. But if they sign week 2 after a week 1 loss it will be pretty evident what this team's priorities are...

[faba]

This is where financial side of the business is hindering with the football side.

[sirlancemehlot]

assuming they really want this player and think he can help them win... ditto coles...

what's a week 1 victory worth to the NYJ? less than the veteran's minimum.

If Jets dont want either player than fair enough. But if they sign week 2 after a week 1 loss it will be pretty evident what this team's priorities are...

Yeah, its becomimg pretty obvious that Woody is absolutely compulsive about penny pinching and price gouging. Even Rex wants AD on the team NOW so he can coach him up for the opener..."If we're going to do it, we'd rather do it sooner than later," Ryan said. "But there are still some other things involved, other factors involved, and things like that. Sometimes what really makes sense, might not make sense to the organization, so we'll see."

It really puts a crimp in things when you dsespise the team's owner. And I despise our owner. Leon Hess was a much better man.

[jgb]

get him in here so he can practice. $$$ be damned.

[NIGHT STALKER]

The only red flag I can see, is why hasn't another team scooped up this guy by now?

[#90]

Come on! Has Woody turned into Charles Wong from the Islanders? The guy is going to sign for the league minimum for a vet. The Jets need to get A.T. into camp and get him in game shape and have him learn the play book. A broken foot can easily have complications. I would think 6-8 weeks is more likley for Pace to be out. Stop being so damn cheap Woody! ARGH!!!!

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

Yeah, its becomimg pretty obvious that Woody is absolutely compulsive about penny pinching and price gouging. Even Rex wants AD on the team NOW so he can coach him up for the opener..."If we're going to do it, we'd rather do it sooner than later," Ryan said. "But there are still some other things involved, other factors involved, and things like that. Sometimes what really makes sense, might not make sense to the organization, so we'll see."

It really puts a crimp in things when you dsespise the team's owner. And I despise our owner. Leon Hess was a much better man.

This move doesn't make sense. You are talking about $855,000 assuming AD signs for vet min. The Jets need him for about 6 games.

So lets say the Jets sign him week 1 and cut him after week 6 pay him $855,000 it works out to $142,000 per game.

If the Jets sign him week 2 and cut him week 6 they have to pay him $53,437.50 per game or $267,187.50 for 5 games. So is having a replacement for Pace week 1 worth a little more than a half million in a year with no salary cap? This is not like the Revis deal where the team needs to worry about future cap hits.

[SenorGato]

The only red flag I can see, is why hasn't another team scooped up this guy by now?

He keeps rejecting them to run through walls for Rex.

[faba]

The only red flag I can see, is why hasn't another team scooped up this guy by now?

Valid point -strange that no team at all has signed him up to now- something seems to be up with that for me.

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

He keeps rejecting them to run through walls for Rex.

That is not as ridiculous as it might sound.

AD has had two gigs in the NFL -- the first one was Rex as the DC, the second one in NE. A major source of tension in the sour relationship he had in NE stemmed from his opinion that he was not being used properly in NE and that he should be used as he was in Baltimore.

He may very well only want to play in two games week 2 and week 13 for the Jets. And either has rejected or overpriced other options. Not unlike how Brett Favre only wanted to play for a team in the NFC North so he could face the team he felt scorned him. Players don't just play for money. Seau will only come out of retirement for Belichick but no one else. The players are just like the rest of us. Some times they have people the like, sometimes they have people they hate. And not everyone likes or hates playing for the same coaches and teams.

[bitonti]

to clarify i dont think woody is cheap or broke... what I think is happening is he's preparing to service a 750 million dollar stadium debt without revenue (2011 lockout).

In essence the Jets spent their money on building not players. They have no shut down corner but the video screen is bigger. So there's that.

[flgreen]

This move doesn't make sense. You are talking about $855,000 assuming AD signs for vet min. The Jets need him for about 6 games.

So lets say the Jets sign him week 1 and cut him after week 6 pay him $855,000 it works out to $142,000 per game.

If the Jets sign him week 2 and cut him week 6 they have to pay him $53,437.50 per game or $267,187.50 for 5 games. So is having a replacement for Pace week 1 worth a little more than a half million in a year with no salary cap? This is not like the Revis deal where the team needs to worry about future cap hits.

Hate to say it, but I have to agree here. The Ravens game is a major game. Also one of the tougher teams in the league.

Thomas hasn’t practiced all preseason. It will take a few weeks for him to get in football shape.

This just doesn’t make sense for in NFL terms chump change. Clearly Rex wants him now

[aec4]

assuming they really want this player and think he can help them win... ditto coles...

what's a week 1 victory worth to the NYJ? less than the veteran's minimum.

If Jets dont want either player than fair enough. But if they sign week 2 after a week 1 loss it will be pretty evident what this team's priorities are...

It shows they are being smart. Do you think signing a street free agent is going to help the team win in week 1? If so, then he should have been signed already.

[bitonti]

It shows they are being smart. Do you think signing a street free agent is going to help the team win in week 1? If so, then he should have been signed already.

it depends who you ask. If you ask Rex Ryan the coach I think he wants all his players. If you ask tanny the accountant or Woody the owner it's "Smarter" to manage the funds. Ask me, im a fan I want to win. if Rex wants this guy he should be here now. not after week 2 when it's cheaper.

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

it depends who you ask. If you ask Rex Ryan the coach I think he wants all his players. If you ask tanny the accountant or Woody the owner it's "Smarter" to manage the funds. Ask me, im a fan I want to win. if Rex wants this guy he should be here now. not after week 2 when it's cheaper.

The more I think about it, AD might actually want to come back after week 1 so his first game back is vs. the Patriots.

[Jetsfan80]

Perhaps the Jets want to see what they can get out of Taylor/Westerman first before giving up a roster spot to Thomas? Rex loves Adalius, no question about it, but perhaps Tannenbaum is able to see that Adalius isn't going to be the same player he once was for Rex. The "other factor" in all this might be who Westhoff wants on his special teams unit. Adding Thomas means cutting one of "his guys".

Woody just signed Mangold to a big extension, coming not long after locking up Ferguson. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this until more information exists. I can't imagine they'd knowingly be cheap about signing a guy to the veteran minimum without a good reason.

[L.S. Dylan]

Yeah, its becomimg pretty obvious that Woody is absolutely compulsive about penny pinching and price gouging. Even Rex wants AD on the team NOW so he can coach him up for the opener..."If we're going to do it, we'd rather do it sooner than later," Ryan said. "But there are still some other things involved, other factors involved, and things like that. Sometimes what really makes sense, might not make sense to the organization, so we'll see."

It really puts a crimp in things when you dsespise the team's owner. And I despise our owner. Leon Hess was a much better man.

That's true but it's not like we have a 3rd stringer backing Pace up.. it's Jason Taylor and I think he can manage for one game. AT can start getting ready now and hopefully he'll be in shape in a couple of weeks.

[Larz]

why pay a 19 game salary for a 3 game rental ?

he's getting cut when pace comes back

[Sperm Edwards]

why pay a 19 game salary for a 3 game rental ?

he's getting cut when pace comes back

If he's good enough to pay for 3 games, he's good enough to keep all season. Particularly if he's playing for the league minimum. If he's not totally shot, we could do a whole lot worse than to have Adalius Thomas as an insurance policy at all 4 LB positions (and even a little DE). If he's totally shot, then why do we want him for 3-5 games even?

This move (or the delay of a move anyway) makes little sense.

[Larz]

If he's good enough to pay for 3 games, he's good enough to keep all season. Particularly if he's playing for the league minimum. If he's not totally shot, we could do a whole lot worse than to have Adalius Thomas as an insurance policy at all 4 LB positions (and even a little DE). If he's totally shot, then why do we want him for 3-5 games even?

This move (or the delay of a move anyway) makes little sense.

if it's not a foregone conclusion, it gives you the flexibility at least.

I hate this side of sports, I wish they could just suit him up, but if waiting one week gives you flexibility, you do it

we may be in the market for a kicker at some point, or a DB

[Gainzo]

Free agent linebacker Adalius Thomas told Sports Illustrated's Peter King that he is interested in signing with the Jets but that the team wouldn't be interested in signing him until after the first regular-season game of the year.

Reports floated this past offseason that the Jets contemplated signing Thomas, a 10-year veteran who played under Jets coach Rex Ryan when he was a defensive assistant with the Baltimore Ravens.

The flirtation between the team and player has been reignited since starting outside linebacker Calvin Pace suffered a broken bone in his right foot in the Jets' third preseason game last Friday. Pace is expected to miss six weeks.

Thomas told King that he hopes to sign with the Jets, claiming he will fit in well with the team. Ryan and Thomas spoke this weekend, according to the linebacker, but nothing is imminent and the primary speed bump, Thomas says, seems to be a financial one.

If the Jets do want to sign Thomas, they are hoping to wait until after Week 1 so they won't be obligated to pay the player's full salary if he is cut. Any player on the opening day roster has his salary paid in full for the year, even if he is cut -- whereas, a player signed during the season can be released and the team is only mandated to pay the portion of money guaranteed in the deal.

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2010/08/adalius_thomas_says_jets_not_i.html

Good Luck with that. Thomas received his pay day from the Pats and played like crap. IMO I don't think he cares about football.

[jgb]

if we lose a close one against balt and then AT is signed and proves to at least be serviceable there will be a revolt.

although more and more it looks like we're going to get pummeled by the ravens.

[slats]

If he's good enough to pay for 3 games, he's good enough to keep all season. Particularly if he's playing for the league minimum. If he's not totally shot, we could do a whole lot worse than to have Adalius Thomas as an insurance policy at all 4 LB positions (and even a little DE). If he's totally shot, then why do we want him for 3-5 games even?

This move (or the delay of a move anyway) makes little sense.

I agree here completely. I tend to think he's pretty close to washed up, and even if he's not - he's not likely to be much help in the short term, anyway. He'll need a couple weeks to get up to speed, and once you wait the opening week, that'll be pretty close to the time that Pace is due back.

The guy knows the deal. I'd bring him in right now for a few practices and then cut him again before the opening week. At least you get a good enough look at him to decide if he's worth picking up after the first game.

[lamont_jordan_rules]

The guy knows the deal. I'd bring him in right now for a few practices and then cut him again before the opening week. At least you get a good enough look at him to decide if he's worth picking up after the first game.

... interesting idea ...

... i wonder what the drawbacks would be? ... maybe - possible injury guarantees yearly salary? or as someone discussed earlier it causes westhoff to have to cut one of the special teamers? ...

... would seem like a solid backup at lb after the pace injury would be worth that price tag ...

l_j_r

[#27TheDominator]

I'm not buying. I say the guy is done. The Jets have been super thin at ILB most of camp and didn't even think about him. They were signing guys off the street and playing them against the Panthers. Pitoitua went down and they were supposed to jump on him (Cimini) nd didn't. Now they need him to play for Pace? I think I would pass, if he isn't done and he is going to play for the vet minimum why didn't we sign him sooner?