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8/31/2010 3:55 PM ET By Dan Graziano

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Dan Graziano

Senior NFL Writer

With just 13 days left before their regular-season opener, the New York Jets and the agents for cornerback Darrelle Revis are quietly continuing negotiations on a new contract. A week after a source told FanHouse the sides were "almost there," the same source relayed to FanHouse on Tuesday that the talks are complicated but still progressing, and that both sides believe they will have a deal done before the Jets open the season on Monday, Sept. 13 against the Ravens.

Revis has been spending his time in Pittsburgh, working out and training on his own so that once the deal is done, he'll be ready to jump right in -- despite missing all of training camp and, so far, the entire preseason. In the meantime, while observing a mutually agreed-upon media blackout, the team and the agents have been working on the details of a complex deal intended to satisfy Revis' desire to be the highest-paid cornerback in the NFL.

It's unclear what the deal will eventually look like, but sources tell FanHouse that they believe it will have to set some sort of record in order to reflect Revis' belief, and the team's corresponding assertions, that he is the league's best cornerback.

That could mean a deal that pays Revis more per year than the $15.1 million Oakland's Nnamdi Asomugha makes, though the Jets have balked at that in the past on the belief that Asomugha's deal is not reflective of where the top of the market should be. So potential compromises could include a deal that's the longest ever given to a corner, or the most in terms of total value, etc. The details are complicated because there's much to be ironed out in terms of guaranteed money and how the deal is to be structured around a potential 2011 lockout, but conversations are ongoing, and it does appear likely that the situation will get settled in time for the regular season.

"There are a lot of different possibilities still in play," the source said of the likely final structure of the deal.

The Jets continue to observe the media blackout, refusing to discuss the Revis negotiations. But Jets coach Rex Ryan did say Monday that he remains confident the team can still have a great defense even without Revis and linebacker Calvin Pace, who will miss the first few weeks with a foot injury.

"We can get it done," Ryan said. "We've proved it all through the years. That's all I know is great defenses. That's what we stand for. It's not about one guy or two guys. Every team is going to go through one or two guys you're going to miss. That happened last year. When we opened the season, we never had Calvin and we never had Shaun Ellis. Last year, we lost [Kris] Jenkins for a lot of it. This is what we do. We're a team defense. That's why I know our defense will play great. There's not a question in my mind that we'll play great."

Ryan talks tough, and he means and believes what he says. But there's no doubt he'll feel better once Revis is signed.

[DireJet38]

[JonEJet]

Fanhouse

Nuff said

[NIGHT STALKER]

Hmmmmmmm...another MEvis thread and nothing...nothing is new.

[#27TheDominator]

Fanhouse

Nuff said

Not only that, they are citing the same source that was wrong last week.

I love to hear how he is going to be ready to jump right in because he is working out. Reports have him working out with an Alquippa personal trainer who was a H.S. football player and running around the track. It's possible he's seriously working out, or he could be working out with a guy like me.

[dbatesman]

Fanhouse

Nuff said

True, though Graziano is a real reporter and not a blogger. Doesn't speak well of his mysterious "source" that it was so spectacularly wrong last week though.

[DireJet38]

How many guys have taken pay cuts?

Coleman, Clemens and Gholston?

And what was the total amount of $ saved?

[DireJet38]

Not only that, they are citing the same source that was wrong last week.

I love to hear how he is going to be ready to jump right in because he is working out. Reports have him working out with an Alquippa personal trainer who was a H.S. football player and running around the track. It's possible he's seriously working out, or he could be working out with a guy like me.

Ray Rice works out with an assistant football coach/personal trainer at Rye HS.

Not as crazy as you'd think.

[SMC]

How many guys have taken pay cuts?

Coleman, Clemens and Gholston?

And what was the total amount of $ saved?

About $100.

[#27TheDominator]

Ray Rice works out with an assistant football coach/personal trainer at Rye HS.

Not as crazy as you'd think.

I don't think it's crazy. I think we have no idea what it means.

[Matt39]

What Cowlishaw really meant was this Wednesday.

Revis aint playing this year folks...

[THE ILK]

Manish Mehta reports nothing new...

Until MEvi$ decides to be reasonable, I don't expect things to change.

[Ghost]

How stupid can people be? I don't even count Fanhouse as a source I can trust.

[GaNGGreeN4LyFE]

Source: Darrelle Revis, Jets Still Talking Contract as Clock Ticks

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8/31/2010 3:55 PM ET By Dan Graziano

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Dan Graziano

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With just 13 days left before their regular-season opener, the New York Jets and the agents for cornerback Darrelle Revis are quietly continuing negotiations on a new contract. A week after a source told FanHouse the sides were "almost there," the same source relayed to FanHouse on Tuesday that the talks are complicated but still progressing, and that both sides believe they will have a deal done before the Jets open the season on Monday, Sept. 13 against the Ravens.

Revis has been spending his time in Pittsburgh, working out and training on his own so that once the deal is done, he'll be ready to jump right in -- despite missing all of training camp and, so far, the entire preseason. In the meantime, while observing a mutually agreed-upon media blackout, the team and the agents have been working on the details of a complex deal intended to satisfy Revis' desire to be the highest-paid cornerback in the NFL.

It's unclear what the deal will eventually look like, but sources tell FanHouse that they believe it will have to set some sort of record in order to reflect Revis' belief, and the team's corresponding assertions, that he is the league's best cornerback.

That could mean a deal that pays Revis more per year than the $15.1 million Oakland's Nnamdi Asomugha makes, though the Jets have balked at that in the past on the belief that Asomugha's deal is not reflective of where the top of the market should be. So potential compromises could include a deal that's the longest ever given to a corner, or the most in terms of total value, etc. The details are complicated because there's much to be ironed out in terms of guaranteed money and how the deal is to be structured around a potential 2011 lockout, but conversations are ongoing, and it does appear likely that the situation will get settled in time for the regular season.

"There are a lot of different possibilities still in play," the source said of the likely final structure of the deal.

The Jets continue to observe the media blackout, refusing to discuss the Revis negotiations. But Jets coach Rex Ryan did say Monday that he remains confident the team can still have a great defense even without Revis and linebacker Calvin Pace, who will miss the first few weeks with a foot injury.

"We can get it done," Ryan said. "We've proved it all through the years. That's all I know is great defenses. That's what we stand for. It's not about one guy or two guys. Every team is going to go through one or two guys you're going to miss. That happened last year. When we opened the season, we never had Calvin and we never had Shaun Ellis. Last year, we lost [Kris] Jenkins for a lot of it. This is what we do. We're a team defense. That's why I know our defense will play great. There's not a question in my mind that we'll play great."

Ryan talks tough, and he means and believes what he says. But there's no doubt he'll feel better once Revis is signed.

[GaNGGreeN4LyFE]

that youtube revis videoo was seriouus damn...that pick to end the miami opener in 08 was sweeeeet

[NIGHT STALKER]

Ray Rice works out with an assistant football coach/personal trainer at Rye HS.

Not as crazy as you'd think.

Rye HS? And you know this how? I'm only asking because he graduated from my old high school (thank you very much) and why not work out there? That's all they talk about now is Ray this and Ray that at New Ro...they forgot all about me...LOL.

[Sperm Edwards]

How many guys have taken pay cuts?

Coleman, Clemens and Gholston?

And what was the total amount of $ saved?

Gholston got a $4.35M raise this year in an effort to make it more cap-friendly to cut him prior to next season (should the Jets decide to do that).

[BroadwayJoe12]

Rye HS? And you know this how? I'm only asking because he graduated from my old high school (thank you very much) and why not work out there? That's all they talk about now is Ray this and Ray that at New Ro...they forgot all about me...LOL.

Heyy Night Stalker you went to New Rochelle?? I'm not sure your age, but were you on the same football team as Ray Ray back in '04?? If so that was a hell of a game, ya beat us on the last play. Bastards hah.

[bitonti]

I love to hear how he is going to be ready to jump right in because he is working out. Reports have him working out with an Alquippa personal trainer who was a H.S. football player and running around the track. It's possible he's seriously working out, or he could be working out with a guy like me.

if he didn't start as a rookie after a 20 day hold out and kick a$$ i'd be more worried about the rust factor. Revis shows up an hour before kickoff he's their best CB option.

[bitonti]

Gholston got a $4.35M raise this year in an effort to make it more cap-friendly to cut him prior to next season (should the Jets decide to do that).

didn't he gave up over 10 million in guaranteed salary next year?

its funny how the dude everyone wanted cut is actually a big part of this defense right now... no pace and pito, gholston helps on both roles. pass rusher and rotational end. huh.

Too bad they didn't cut him before the year.

[NIGHT STALKER]

Heyy Night Stalker you went to New Rochelle?? I'm not sure your age, but were you on the same football team as Ray Ray back in '04?? If so that was a hell of a game, ya beat us on the last play. Bastards hah.

Thanks, but I go waaaaaaaaaay back. Played on New Rochelle in the mid 60's. We were good back then too. But Ray, is no doubt the best player that school ever had.

[slats]

Thanks, but I go waaaaaaaaaay back. Played on New Rochelle in the mid 60's. We were good back then too. But Ray, is no doubt the best player that school ever had.

Don't sell yourself short.

[DireJet38]

Rye HS? And you know this how? I'm only asking because he graduated from my old high school (thank you very much) and why not work out there? That's all they talk about now is Ray this and Ray that at New Ro...they forgot all about me...LOL.

I'm from around the area.

[Sperm Edwards]

didn't he gave up over 10 million in guaranteed salary next year?

its funny how the dude everyone wanted cut is actually a big part of this defense right now... no pace and pito, gholston helps on both roles. pass rusher and rotational end. huh.

Too bad they didn't cut him before the year.

Yeah, I'm sure if we weren't locked into his guaranteed contract, the Jets' first choice for a backup DE/OLB at over $6M this season would still be Vernon Gholston.

And "give up" is a funny way of making it look like he took one for the team given how much he got paid the first 2 years and how much the Jets got out of him.

It is in my interest as a Jets fan for the guy to step it up big-time. Unfortunately, still to this very day, he blows. If he was taken later in the draft he'd already have been cut and the millions that went to him would have gone towards someone far more productive.

All that aside, the question was how much did we save THIS YEAR on Gholston. The average is zero, since he got a $4M+ raise this year.

[villain_the_foe]

Until the Jets recognize this level of talent and pay accordingly, I dont see a change.

[Sperm Edwards]

Until the Jets recognize this level of talent and pay accordingly, I dont see a change.

And an offer of over $12M per season with $40M guaranteed against injury, to someone already under contract for a totally non-guaranteed $6M over the next 2, isn't recognizing this?

I think what you mean to say is you think the Jets need to act accordingly towards any demands Revis has set forth that he - objectively and in no way acting in his own self-interest - believes the Jets should pay, and ignore everything else.

[lamont_jordan_rules]

Don't sell yourself short.

... you're a tremendous slouch! ...

l_j_r

[bitonti]

All that aside, the question was how much did we save THIS YEAR on Gholston. The average is zero, since he got a $4M+ raise this year.

considering it's an uncapped year we shouldn't care what they save on gholston in 2010. my point was for all the bitching and moaning he's gonna be a real part of this D this year. who thought that would happen? everyone wanted him cut around here. fwiw Year 3 that's about when these things happen.

[PatsFanTX]

fwiw Year 3 that's about when these things happen.

You said the exact same thing about DFat, how'd that turn out?

[bitonti]

You said the exact same thing about DFat, how'd that turn out?

tex i dont know if you've been paying attn to Jets football but Gholston has arrived.

as for Drob all told... not horrible. He started 80+ games for the NYJ, started as a rookie, played well in several playoff seasons and eventually wore out his knee. It happens.

Not as bad a bust as Jon Sullivan who went at 6 in that draft and was out of the league in 2 years, not as great a pick as Kevin Williams who went at 8 and was a pro bowler. In the grand scheme of things he was mediocre.

I also remember defending Bryan Thomas, where would the Jets be without that player right now?

[PatsFanTX]

tex i dont know if you've been paying attn to Jets football but Gholston has arrived.

as for Drob all told... not horrible. He started 80+ games for the NYJ, started as a rookie, played well in several playoff seasons and eventually wore out his knee. It happens.

Not as bad a bust as Jon Sullivan who went at 6 in that draft and was out of the league in 2 years, not as great a pick as Kevin Williams who went at 8 and was a pro bowler. In the grand scheme of things he was mediocre.

I also remember defending Bryan Thomas, where would the Jets be without that player right now?

bit, DFat was a solid contributor for the Jets. But was he worth two 1st's and a 4th?

Gholston is still a joke. Jets spent the overall #6 pick on a pure pass rusher and the guy doesn't have ONE sack, including preseason games. The guy is a total bust.

BTW, Bryan Thomas (along with Brandon Moore) is the most under rated player on Jets message boards.

[Sperm Edwards]

considering it's an uncapped year we shouldn't care what they save on gholston in 2010. my point was for all the bitching and moaning he's gonna be a real part of this D this year. who thought that would happen? everyone wanted him cut around here. fwiw Year 3 that's about when these things happen.

Someone asked a question and I answered it. I don't understand what you're arguing with me about; I wasn't advocating cutting Gholston even though he's been a terrible bust so far, only seeing the field due to (1) the injury of another, and (2) unwarranted promotion due to his original draft status.

I hope you're right about Gholston, though I would have to categorize myself as pessimistic since he still pretty much looks lousy on defense.

Anyone who wanted him cut this year wasn't being realistic. Cap or no cap, unless he's misbehaving no one cuts a #6 overall pick prior to year 3 when he's getting paid as much as Gholston is. You may say it doesn't matter what we pay him because it's an uncapped year. It does matter. Money is money. Even a billionaire like Woody, whose main accomplishment in life was being born, values the $10M of guaranteed money Woody would have to have paid Gholston for the privilege of cutting him early.

[ARodJetsFan]

You said the exact same thing about DFat, how'd that turn out?

I don't always agree with Bit, but Gholston appears to be rejuvenated by being moved back to DE this year and he has looked pretty sharp quite honestly Mike.

Rex Ryan made a mistake trying him at OLBer for 2 seasons, that did more harm then good IMHO. Should have left him at DE.

[neckdemon]

tex i dont know if you've been paying attn to Jets football but Gholston has arrived.

as for Drob all told... not horrible. He started 80+ games for the NYJ, started as a rookie, played well in several playoff seasons and eventually wore out his knee. It happens.

Not as bad a bust as Jon Sullivan who went at 6 in that draft and was out of the league in 2 years, not as great a pick as Kevin Williams who went at 8 and was a pro bowler. In the grand scheme of things he was mediocre.

I also remember defending Bryan Thomas, where would the Jets be without that player right now?

gholston has arrived huh? lol.......i haven't seen anything that says he has arrived. has ghe picked up his abysmal play slightly? yeah a little bit. but saying the man has arrived is a joke right now.

[neckdemon]

I don't always agree with Bit, but Gholston appears to be rejuvenated by being moved back to DE this year and he has looked pretty sharp - quite honestly Mike.

Rex Ryan made a mistake trying him at OLBer for 2 seasons, that did more harm then good IMHO. Should have left him at DE.

funny......ryan has only been here one year. idk how you blame him for gholston at all