MEvi$ gave up idea of Aso type money

[Kentucky Jet]

Revis camp finally abandoned the quest for Nnamdi money

Posted by Mike Florio on September 6, 2010 7:08 AM ET

Ross Tucker of Sirius NFL Radio launched his new daily early-morning show on Monday, and in a very weak moment he decided that it would be a good idea to have me on.

So we talked about the Darrelle Revis deal and other Jets-related issues, and during the conversation Ross mentioned the reality that, in the end, Revis gave up on his attempt to match or beat the deal given to Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.

Asomugha's deal has an average of $15.1 million; Revis' deal works out to $11.5 million, far short of the Asomugha average.

So what gives? Though some will say that the Jets persuaded the Revis camp that the Asomugha deal represents yet another crazy move by the Raiders, the more likely reality is that Revis and his agents finally conceded that being the best defensive player in the league and the highest-paid defensive player in the league are two different things. Asomugha had finished his rookie deal and he had completed a season under the franchise tag before inking a three-year deal based on the money he would have made if the Raiders had kept applying the franchise tag.

Revis had three years remaining on his rookie deal, and thus at least three years to go until hitting the open market. So Revis finally abandoned the goal of matching Asomugha's annual average.

As previously explained, the real issue was guaranteed money. Assuming that the Jets gave Revis true and complete guarantees (and not Ferguson/Mangold incomplete guarantees), Revis can now take $32 million to the bank -- and he could try to get millions more when the new deal expires, and when Revis is still on the right side of 30.

[NIGHT STALKER]

It's a four year contract...he'll be holding out again. Could be a good thing for the Jets because that means he's playing on top of his game.

All I know is, we better have at least one SB victory during this time...Bit said we would.

[Sperm Edwards]

It's a four year contract...he'll be holding out again. Could be a good thing for the Jets because that means he's playing on top of his game.

All I know is, we better have at least one SB victory during this time...Bit said we would.

I remember it was something like the:

Jets must pay Revis whatever he wants on a long-term deal

Even if it's over $16M per year - an amount that he's "earned" due to Al Davis's desperation with a different player

Must pay this because he's a superstar

Must pay a superstar whatever he asks - the Jets aren't used to superstars and will soon learn this

Whatever Revis wants for the next decade, Revis should get, to preserve this 1-year window.

lol

None of this happened and Revis is signed.

[Larz]

is the 4 year 11.5 per year more or less official ?

[Sperm Edwards]

is the 4 year 11.5 per year more or less official ?

No. The Jets are leaking this to make Revis look bad when he denies it later today. They control the media. Haven't you heard?

[faba]

If Revis is getting 32 million guauranteed that is what was most important to him

[SMC]

If Revis is getting 32 million guauranteed that is what was most important to him

We don't know what those guarantees are.

[Ghost]

Here we go, baby! We're readyyyyyyyy

[SMC]

Also, in 4 yrs we'll know if Wilson is the real deal (he'll be in the last yr of his deal) so the Jets would be in a better position to let Revis walk.

[NIGHT STALKER]

We don't know what those guarantees are.

If the figures that are being leaked out are true. What the hell was the hold up? The way this contract is sounding, this could have been done a long time ago. Either the Jets were really low balling him, or Revis and company caved.

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

It's a four year contract...he'll be holding out again. Could be a good thing for the Jets because that means he's playing on top of his game.

All I know is, we better have at least one SB victory during this time...Bit said we would.

I will be interested in seeing the exact year break down, if most of this guarantee money is backended than the Jets may have a decent deal. If most of it was a signing bonus, this may in reality be only a one year contract for $30 million or so, with Revis holding out of next years camp.

[Dude Love]

He didn't want to do TC. That's all this was ever about. Now he's fat and Flacco is going to torch him on MNF in front of the whole country.

[THE ILK]

I remember it was something like the:

Jets must pay Revis whatever he wants on a long-term deal

Even if it's over $16M per year - an amount that he's "earned" due to Al Davis's desperation with a different player

Must pay this because he's a superstar

Must pay a superstar whatever he asks - the Jets aren't used to superstars and will soon learn this

Whatever Revis wants for the next decade, Revis should get, to preserve this 1-year window.

lol

None of this happened and Revis is signed.

Shocker!

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

If the figures that are being leaked out are true. What the hell was the hold up? The way this contract is sounding, this could have been done a long time ago. Either the Jets were really low balling him, or Revis and company caved.

Even if this is only a slight up tic from the Jets last offer, the Revis strat all along may have been, hold out until a week before the season starts (offers weren't going to go down) hope the Jets cave but even if they don't sign the best offer made a week before camp opens. Really no downside to Revis unless he likes practice better than hanging out with his family and friends.

[Vudu]

He didn't want to do TC. That's all this was ever about. Now he's fat and Flacco is going to torch him on MNF in front of the whole country.

Why are you here?

[billo83]

I remember it was something like the:

Jets must pay Revis whatever he wants on a long-term deal

Even if it's over $16M per year - an amount that he's "earned" due to Al Davis's desperation with a different player

Must pay this because he's a superstar

Must pay a superstar whatever he asks - the Jets aren't used to superstars and will soon learn this

Whatever Revis wants for the next decade, Revis should get, to preserve this 1-year window.

lol

None of this happened and Revis is signed.

Waiting for Slats to discredit this report as well!

[Dude Love]

Why are you here?

I'm giving you my heart, not some fashion show.

[THE ILK]

is the 4 year 11.5 per year more or less official ?

I tell you what, if he got anywhere near close to what he was demanding and holding out for, you could bet you a$$ his agents would have leaked the numbers.

Funny how when a player does not come close to what he wanted, how the numbers are not readily available.

[Bleedin Green]

I will be interested in seeing the exact year break down, if most of this guarantee money is backended than the Jets may have a decent deal. If most of it was a signing bonus, this may in reality be only a one year contract for $30 million or so, with Revis holding out of next years camp.

While I have no doubt Revis will hold out again at some point his career, if he does it again next year all he will be doing is guaranteeing that he will literally never receive another long term contract for the rest of his NFL career. Which in turn, will mean nowhere near the same amount in signing bonuses and guaranteed money.

[PFSIKH]

I remember it was something like the:

Jets must pay Revis whatever he wants on a long-term deal

Even if it's over $16M per year - an amount that he's "earned" due to Al Davis's desperation with a different player

Must pay this because he's a superstar

Must pay a superstar whatever he asks - the Jets aren't used to superstars and will soon learn this

Whatever Revis wants for the next decade, Revis should get, to preserve this 1-year window.

lol

None of this happened and Revis is signed.

And Revis is perfectly happy with his 11.5 a year versus his requested 16?

You can honestly say he is going to honor the remaining 4 years of this contract?

Imminent problems were adverted, but a problem still exists short of an extension once the CBA is settled.

[Jetsfan80]

And Revis is perfectly happy with his 11.5 a year versus his requested 16?

You can honestly say he is going to honor the remaining 4 years of this contract?

Imminent problems were adverted, but a problem still exists short of an extension once the CBA is settled.

If he holds out again, there's no way he escapes without consequences. I would be highly surprised if there isn't language in the deal saying he forfeits a hefty % of his bonus if he holds out again. The whole idea for the Revis camp signing the 4-year deal as opposed to a 10-year deal is that he can test the FA market when he's still basically in his prime (28 years old). Holding out again would reduce his value in free agency. Who would shell out big bucks to a corner who has held out 3 times before hitting 28 years old?

[slats]

Waiting for Slats to discredit this report as well!

Sperm's talking to Bitonti, there, not me.

[slats]

The whole idea for the Revis camp signing the 4-year deal as opposed to a 10-year deal is that he can test the FA market when he's still basically in his prime (28 years old). Holding out again would reduce his value in free agency. Who would shell out big bucks to a corner who has held out 3 times before hitting 28 years old?

This.

Revis did very well for himself with this deal, and he'll cash in big again without having to dishonor himself with another holdout.

[Kleckineau]

From the get go, and throughout this whole process Mike T. had the winning hand.He made his bet early and his patience paid off. He just waited for Team Revis to throw in their losing hand.

The only thing left to negotiate is the accumulation of fine money. Maybe they give Revis a break here, cut it in half or let him make a contribution to a worthy charity.

[Sperm Edwards]

This.

Revis did very well for himself with this deal, and he'll cash in big again without having to dishonor himself with another holdout.

Ha! So you admit that a holdout is dishonorable!

lol Really, I'm just glad he's back and I agree with what you've said here. Truth is, with someone like Revis, a long-term deal is a pipe-dream. There are short deals and medium-length deals.and even if he's signed for longer, he'll never honor it unless his skills have gone south.

[ECURB]

I do not think he holds out, once a CBA is in place though and if he plays great again I think he might get an extension onto this contract. Tanny hinted at this type of contract being a bandaid.

[Jetsfan80]

This.

Revis did very well for himself with this deal, and he'll cash in big again without having to dishonor himself with another holdout.

Question is, will Revis be a Jet in 2015/2016? I can't imagine he'll get his big payday from the Jets at 28.

[T0mShane]

As previously explained, the real issue was guaranteed money. Assuming that the Jets gave Revis true and complete guarantees (and not Ferguson/Mangold incomplete guarantees), Revis can now take $32 million to the bank -- and he could try to get millions more when the new deal expires, and when Revis is still on the right side of 30.

If this is true, then the Revis debacle was all because Woody didn't want to sign a check. In essence, they dragged the best player they've had since Namath through the mud over some up-front money; all so they could preserve the option of pulling the plug on him when it was convenient for the team and potentially saving a few bucks down the road. In a year when the team has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations, I think that's absurd.

[Jbro22]

If this is true, then the Revis debacle was all because Woody didn't want to sign a check. In essence, they dragged the best player they've had since Namath through the mud over some up-front money; all so they could preserve the option of pulling the plug on him when it was convenient for the team and potentially saving a few bucks down the road. In a year when the team has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations, I think that's absurd.

That's not true, he was holding out for Aso money and guarantees. He realized the Jets were budging and settled for just the guaranteed.

One day I'll settle for 32 Million.

[THE ILK]

If this is true, then the Revis debacle was all because Woody didn't want to sign a check. In essence, they dragged the best player they've had since Namath through the mud over some up-front money; all so they could preserve the option of pulling the plug on him when it was convenient for the team and potentially saving a few bucks down the road. In a year when the team has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations, I think that's absurd.

And if it's not?

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

That's not true, he was holding out for Aso money and guarantees. He realized the Jets were budging and settled for just the guaranteed.

One day I'll settle for 32 Million.

I am still waiting to see more details on the structure...before guessing who blinked.

[T0mShane]

That's not true, he was holding out for Aso money and guarantees. He realized the Jets were budging and settled for just the guaranteed.

One day I'll settle for 32 Million.

The only reason anyone thinks they know that is because that's what the team was telling Manish Mehta and Jenny Vrentas to tell the world. They kept lofting the 162 MILLION DOLLARS!!! line. Revis may have been beaten on this deal (depends on what's guaranteed), but I doubt he'd get beat for $6 mil per, especially if the Jets' "rumored" offer was at $12 mil per.

[Jetsfan80]

The only reason anyone thinks they know that is because that's what the team was telling Manish Mehta and Jenny Vrentas to tell the world. They kept lofting the 162 MILLION DOLLARS!!! line. Revis may have been beaten on this deal (depends on what's guaranteed), but I doubt he'd get beat for $6 mil per, especially if the Jets' "rumored" offer was at $12 mil per.

It makes perfect sense, Tom. The amount/year doesn't matter because he accepted a much shorter deal. He knew that the Jets had him by the balls in that they weren't budging AND he was under contract for the next 3 seasons. So he took a short deal with lots of $$$ upfront, and gets a THIRD opportunity to cash in while he's still in his prime, 4 years from now.

Had the negotiations continued to center on a 10-year deal and a 10-year deal alone, Revis might well still be holding out as we speak.

Neither Revis nor the Jets really got screwed here, though in the end, the Jets were not the ones that appeared to have blinked first. The 4-year "bandaid" deal was on the table for a long time, with only the exact guaranteed $$$ amount being the aspect of the deal in question.

[THE ILK]

I am still waiting to see more details on the structure...before guessing who blinked.

I would think the agents would have released it if it was this guaranteed jackpot, no?

They have 2 other clients holding out.

[T0mShane]

And if it's not?

I may be the first guy on this site to scream about the buffoonery of the Jets management (as I've been doing for 20+ years), but I'm also the first guy to admit when I was wrong on something, as I've done--gladly--on several occasions. Seeing as how the Jets haven't won a damn thing in my lifetime, and have outright sucked for the majority of said lifetime, I can mournfully say that I've been right far more than I've been wrong about the Jets. They have not earned the benefit of the doubt. That said, Go Jets!