Rex "Still trying to figure out why Greene was benched"

[Integrity28]

Shonn Greene-RB-Jets Sep. 14 - 7:28 pm et

Coach Rex Ryan revealed that he's still trying to figure out why Shonn Greene never touched the ball again after a second-quarter fumble Monday night.

Ryan said he hasn't had a chance to talk to offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer or running back coach Anthony Lynn to find out their reasoning for benching Greene. "Shonn is a huge part of what we do and who we are," Ryan assured. Earlier in the day Ryan indicated that LaDainian Tomlinson would split carries equally for the foreseeable future.

Still trying to figure it out?

Are you ******* kidding me?

Figure it out?

The ONLY reason Greene should have been benched is if Rex told him he was benched. Plain and simple the division of the offensive and defensive responsibilities on this team is sophomoric, at best. Its as though Rex says to Schotty, "Hey Schotty, everything good with the offense?" and Schotty responds, "Yup." And that's that. Sheesh... Any other established HC in this league would have known exactly why their stud RB was benched 1 play after it happened.

What the hells is going on with this team right now?

I mean, the lack of discipline that has become front-and-center the past couple weeks is horrifying... but worse yet is the lack of communication between the guys in charge of the team!!! Holy crap.

[NIGHT STALKER]

I have to agree...HC should have his finger on everything going on in the game and something as important as your starting RB being sat and you don't know why? Clueless.

[Lupz27]

This sucks cause I never want another guy calling or scheming the Jets defense ever again, but that looks unlikely if Rex doesn't get COMPLETE control of this team ASAP. Maybe he is a little to much like his father not giving 2 sh*ts about his offense.

[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

My feeling all a long about Rex has been he is a damn good defensive coordinator, among the best, but I don't think he has what it takes to be a head coach.

[THE ILK]

This thread really needs some good old circus clown music.

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[GodWearsAGrayHoodie]

This thread really needs some good old circus clown music.

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[Mattyandthejets]

First of all, Rex had his plate absolutely full with the ridiculous mental retardation of our secondary. No

secondly most head coaches dont pay attention to both sides of the ball during the game if they are an offensive guy they watch the offense, if they are a defensive guy they watch the defense. I guarantee you lovie smith isnt caring about the offense when he has martz.

It is ridiculous to bash rex over this right now, he is a breath of fresh air for this organization and I want him to be here until he retires. With him we are virtually guaranteed to have an elite defense every year, when was the last time that happened with this team? So please, dont hate on Rex over this, his coaching is on the bottom of our list of concerns.

[dbatesman]

I guarantee you lovie smith isnt caring about the offense when he has martz.

Comparing Rex to Lovie Smith isn't exactly a vote of confidence.

I wouldn't take this at face value. Does anyone really believe he hasn't talked to Schottenheimer or Lynn?

[T0mShane]

I think Rex is playing it coy there. Obviously, he knows why Greene was benched and who did it. It's his way of throwing Schottenmheimer under the bus. IMO, it's ghey and unprofessional, but at the same time it's awesome because Bill Callahan moves closer to taking control of the offense.

[serphnx]

Either he doesn't pay any attention to the offense at all, or he seemingly thinks turning the ball over and playing like a zombie is a good idea on offense. He also apparently can't tell the difference from 5.6 vs. 1.8, or whatever the ypc numbers were for LT and Greene respectively.

I have Greene on two of my fantasy teams, took him high with a 2nd rounder each time, but I'd rather he is benched and LT starts. I still maintain that Greene is a Marion Barber III clone, and can not carry the load himself. Actually MB doesn't fumble much, so right now Greene has some catching up to do.

LT is a veteran, sure handed back with great pass catching ability and solid blitz pickup. He is the guy you want back there with a 2nd year QB with a clueless OC, and an O-line that misses blocks sometimes (I'm looking at you Slauson).

[CTM]

I think Rex is playing it coy there. Obviously, he knows why Greene was benched and who did it. It's his way of throwing Schottenmheimer under the bus. IMO, it's ghey and unprofessional, but at the same time it's awesome because Bill Callahan moves closer to taking control of the offense.

If Rex has to resort to stupidity like this in order to move Schitt out, something is very wrong

[Lupz27]

Either he doesn't pay any attention to the offense at all, or he seemingly thinks turning the ball over and playing like a zombie is a good idea on offense. He also apparently can't tell the difference from 5.6 vs. 1.8, or whatever the ypc numbers were for LT and Greene respectively.

I have Greene on two of my fantasy teams, took him high with a 2nd rounder each time, but I'd rather he is benched and LT starts. I still maintain that Greene is a Marion Barber III clone, and can not carry the load himself. Actually MB doesn't fumble much, so right now Greene has some catching up to do.

LT is a veteran, sure handed back with great pass catching ability and solid blitz pickup. He is the guy you want back there with a 2nd year QB with a clueless OC, and an O-line that misses blocks sometimes (I'm looking at you Slauson).

Slausson didn't miss the block he just got owned by Ngata, kind of reminded me of how Big Jenks (well miss you big fella) owned the Texans C last year.

[DMaynard]

I think Rex is playing it coy there. Obviously, he knows why Greene was benched and who did it. It's his way of throwing Schottenmheimer under the bus. IMO, it's ghey and unprofessional, but at the same time it's awesome because Bill Callahan moves closer to taking control of the offense.

I think, and hope, you are right.

[SenorGato]

Greene had trouble holding onto the ball all night. This just sounds scummy as hell by Rex...I know we're not allowed to be weary of him but his act will get tired fast if he doesn't get his sh*t/team together.

[T0mShane]

If Rex has to resort to stupidity like this in order to move Schitt out, something is very wrong

I believe that Schottenheimer is in the last year of a contract and is being paid $2 mil this season. I don't know if Rex has the authority to demote him straight out. You know how Woody likes them pennies.

[Matt39]

[billo83]

This sucks cause I never want another guy calling or scheming the Jets defense ever again, but that looks unlikely if Rex doesn't get COMPLETE control of this team ASAP. Maybe he is a little to much like his father not giving 2 sh*ts about his offense.

This wouldn't be an issue if he had a competent OC. But Rex did retain this jackass so he can only blame himself.

[Vudu]

is he not the headcoach? Does he not make these decisions? Im confuzzled.

[Sperm Edwards]

I believe that Schottenheimer is in the last year of a contract and is being paid $2 mil this season. I don't know if Rex has the authority to demote him straight out. You know how Woody likes them pennies.

Think his contract runs through 2011.

[SenorGato]

is he not the headcoach? Does he not make these decisions? Im confuzzled.

Don't think...hate...hate Schottenheimer for costing us this game. Hate as blindly as you can, for what I tell you here is true.

[T0mShane]

Think his contract runs through 2011.

[Expletive]!

[billo83]

I believe that Schottenheimer is in the last year of a contract and is being paid $2 mil this season. I don't know if Rex has the authority to demote him straight out. You know how Woody likes them pennies.

I bet if Rex told Woody that Schott will cost them a chance to get to the SB, he would be demoted that second.

[Integrity28]

If Rex has to resort to stupidity like this in order to move Schitt out, something is very wrong

Very wrong? Yes.

But lets not forget that Woody and Tanny forced Rex to retain Schotty when he took the job. So, while unlikely, you never can tell...

[T0mShane]

Very wrong? Yes.

But lets not forget that Woody and Tanny forced Rex to retain Schotty when he took the job. So, while unlikely, you never can tell...

If that was a condition of taking the HC gig here--keeping Schottenheimer--then I seriously worry about the stewardship of this franchise in the decades to come.

[Integrity28]

Don't think...hate...hate Schottenheimer for costing us this game. Hate as blindly as you can, for what I tell you here is true.

Ah Gato... the patron saint of moot contrarian points of view.

Remember when you defended Mangini. That was awesome.

Remember when you defended Mangini, you also were defending Schotty to me all the way back then? That was awesome.

Your commitment to futile and lost causes is commendable. As is your expert use of sarcasm.

You are still in the minority on this one for a reason though bud.

[ECURB]

I think Rex is playing it coy there. Obviously, he knows why Greene was benched and who did it. It's his way of throwing Schottenmheimer under the bus. IMO, it's ghey and unprofessional, but at the same time it's awesome because Bill Callahan moves closer to taking control of the offense.

I think you may be on to something good sir.

[Iceman88]

Either he doesn't pay any attention to the offense at all, or he seemingly thinks turning the ball over and playing like a zombie is a good idea on offense. He also apparently can't tell the difference from 5.6 vs. 1.8, or whatever the ypc numbers were for LT and Greene respectively.

I have Greene on two of my fantasy teams, took him high with a 2nd rounder each time, but I'd rather he is benched and LT starts. I still maintain that Greene is a Marion Barber III clone, and can not carry the load himself. Actually MB doesn't fumble much, so right now Greene has some catching up to do.

LT is a veteran, sure handed back with great pass catching ability and solid blitz pickup. He is the guy you want back there with a 2nd year QB with a clueless OC, and an O-line that misses blocks sometimes (I'm looking at you Slauson).

Slauson actually played great last night and you can't really fault him for the best NT in the game making his way with him once.

[ECURB]

Slauson actually played great last night and you can't really fault him for the best NT in the game making his way with him once.

Yup, think 2007 with whats his face at that spot... Slausen is way better.

[Sperm Edwards]

Yup, think 2007 with whats his face at that spot... Slausen is way better.

First NFL start against a tough defense? I'd say he more than held his own.

Doesn't mean he isn't going to be a liability this season, and Ngata or not I didn't like seeing him pancaked like that. But he's far more likely to get better than worse; Faneca is more likely to get worse than get better.

[JetsFanInDenver]

Don't think...hate...hate Schottenheimer for costing us this game. Hate as blindly as you can, for what I tell you here is true.

You may have your reasons for your viewpoint.

But what does Schotty have to do for you to start wanting him out of the play calling and/or OC responsibilities ?

[JetsFanInDenver]

I think Rex's response means that Schotty may not be getting fired right now but the countdown has begun!

[SenorGato]

You may have your reasons for your viewpoint.

But what does Schotty have to do for you to start wanting him out of the play calling and/or OC responsibilities ?

Something more significant than lose the first game of the season to the Great Leader's ex-team that has had a top D for more than a season.

If you guys would gtfo the ledge it'd probably hit that one loss isn't the end of the world. This is a better roster than the one that just went to the AFCCG and they're probably capable of better performances. I'd guess it's more likely that the Ravens D just did what they tend to do to offenses than it is that the offense is going to look like that for the whole season.

[dbatesman]

I'd guess it's more likely that the Ravens D just did what they tend to do to offenses than it is that the offense is going to look like that for the whole season.

Slow down there, professor. Let's not get logical.

[Ghost]

Two words.

Bill Callahan.

[SenorGato]

Two words.

Bill Callahan.

He does kind of make an in-season firing of Schotty possible. It'd still be stupid, but it makes the firing a much easier firing to make.