TNJet Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 What are your thoughts on Slauson after the ravens game? I actually think he'll rebound and be okay the rest of the way. I just keep reminding myself that Haloti does to alot of OG's what he did to Matt monday night. He's a probowl NT. Tell me what you think and if you think Turner,Vlad,or Hunter should start instead,or whatever. Feedback appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I give him one more half, then I try turner for maybe 2 games, and he he sux maybe vlad will be ready by week 4 it's a cluster **** of shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 it's a Jets fan fiction that Haloti Ngata does that to alot of players. He's a run stuffer who gets like 2 sacks a year. as for slauson... i never thought he had what it took at Nebraska and Im not a fan now. I dont know how a 6th round pick can be a reach but in Slauson's case it was too high a price. Rob Turner should be started and it should have happened a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Time will tell if he fails his duty on Sunday he will be sitting and the Vlad era will begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Rob Turner should be started and it should have happened a month ago. A million times this. Tannenbaum never gets enough flak for all of the resources he pisses away on lateral moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 I agree that our best backup is easily Turner. Maybe he could be a good fit starting at LG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 it's a Jets fan fiction that Haloti Ngata does that to alot of players. He's a run stuffer who gets like 2 sacks a year. as for slauson... i never thought he had what it took at Nebraska and Im not a fan now. I dont know how a 6th round pick can be a reach but in Slauson's case it was too high a price. Rob Turner should be started and it should have happened a month ago. One sack and you are against the guy! If he has a good game against the Pats, you will be turning the corner in his favor. You did it with Adrian Clarke. IMO he had an OK game the other night. Faneca certinly had worse games for us last year. Yet you never said a word. Slauson is a low round draft choice and traditionally some Jets fans love to dump on guys like that . Its their right. However, the guy is a JET and lets hope that he turns out to be great for us. By the way, I do not seem to remember you being much of a BRANDON MOORE supporter when he signed with us and we changed his position to OG. I'd say the guy turned out pretty good. BRICK allowed 9 sacks in year 1 and you supported him all the way. He also allowed several sacks in yr 2. The other night he was pretty bad too. What say you? nothing! Why? because you like the guy and advocated for him to be a JET. And that is OK because as time goes on he will get better and better. Time is important in the development of an OL. Consistency of playing together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 Kentuckyjet i agree mostly. except for the part about Clarke. He never did anything well. Besides give up sacks. Worst olinemen ever in jets history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistalava Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I give him one more half, then I try turner for maybe 2 games, and he he sux maybe vlad will be ready by week 4 it's a cluster **** of shame Vlad gets beaten like a rented mule while he lost the position to Slauson by a wide margin, yet he's going to be ready by week 4? Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 Vlad gets beaten like a rented mule while he lost the position to Slauson by a wide margin, yet he's going to be ready by week 4? Right. Agreed. Turner will start before Vlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Kentuckyjet i agree mostly. except for the part about Clarke. He never did anything well. Besides give up sacks. Worst olinemen ever in jets history. I was referring to bitonti. He was against ADRIAN CLARKE immediately . Then when the guy played a decent preseason game, bitonti switched sides. then after a bad game, he went back to the dark side. I agree that Clarke sucked but when we did not know his ability or shortcomings, to go at the guy right from the get -go was ridiculous. If Slauson proves he can not do the job after a reasonable shot at it, fine can him. Start Turner. Bring back Tanner! I do not care who we bring in. To immediately dump on that guy would be wrong! Goi9ng by the philosophy of ONE MISTAKE and you are out, are we going to cut BRICK? He sucked in that game big time. How about GREENE? He cost us the game? CRO? His penalties really put us in a bind. What about Sanchez? Case closed! Its plain ridiculous to start to BS about dumping a player after one game! Heck ADRIAN CLARKE got at least 8 games to show what he had which was: NOTHING! by the way, I wonder if SLAUSON'S pundits realize that MANGOLD made an error on that sack as well? Mangold chose to help MOORE with GREGG rather then help an inexperienced OF on his left. Just saying.......! IMO the guy deserves a shot. If after time he proves that he is not the answer, dump him and go to TURNER. The problem with TURNER is that he is a fight waiting to happen. We do not need more penalties. i heard an interview with SANCHEZ and he raved about SLAUSON'S game vs Ngata. Besides that one play, what did Ngata do all night? Case closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I say we should start Alan Faneca! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Releasing Faneca was a mistake. Don't fix something if it's not broken. Hopefully Wilfork won't be lining up against him this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 As horrible as that one play was, I think Slauson played pretty solidly the rest of the night. Ngata isn't exactly an easy first assignment either. Perhaps we should cut him just a tiny bit of slack. It's not like guy got beat by Randy Starks for sacks on two consecutive plays with the game on the line or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Releasing Faneca was a mistake. Don't fix something if it's not broken. Hopefully Wilfork won't be lining up against him this Sunday. Faneca was the worst pass-blocking interior lineman in the entire NFL last season despite the Jets attempting the fewest passes in the league. How exactly does that qualify as "not broken"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 The thing that's missing most without Faneca, imo, is the aggression from the O-line. D'Brick and Mangold are talented guys, but neither of them are psychotic, merciless, step-on-your-neck-type players. Faneca brought that element to the unit and it seemed to be infectious. I'm scared that Brick will revert to playing like a girl. As for Slauson, he hasn't shown much, other than that he's better than Adrien Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 it's a Jets fan fiction that Haloti Ngata does that to alot of players. He's a run stuffer who gets like 2 sacks a year. as for slauson... i never thought he had what it took at Nebraska and Im not a fan now. I dont know how a 6th round pick can be a reach but in Slauson's case it was too high a price. Rob Turner should be started and it should have happened a month ago. I see what you're doing here. Reverse psychology. Whenever you've gushed about a player, they've pretty much sucked. Now, you're saying this guy sucks, so it's pretty much a given that he'll work out judging by your past track record. Well played sir. Hopefully this psychological ploy of yours works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Faneca was the old man with wisdomn on that line. He may have been slowing down but he knew opposing defenses. He knew what what needed to get done. I hope these new and improved guys prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Faneca was the old man with wisdomn on that line. He may have been slowing down but he knew opposing defenses. He knew what what needed to get done. I hope these new and improved guys prove me wrong. Faneca was also great at pulling/trapping and blocking beyond the LOS. He had a knack for it. Maybe Vlad gets there eventually but Slauson is what he is and he's not going suddenly become a pro-bowler. He'll fill the spot until someone with more upside takes it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 it's a Jets fan fiction that Haloti Ngata does that to alot of players. He's a run stuffer who gets like 2 sacks a year. as for slauson... i never thought he had what it took at Nebraska and Im not a fan now. I dont know how a 6th round pick can be a reach but in Slauson's case it was too high a price. Rob Turner should be started and it should have happened a month ago. 2nd best 3-4 DL in the league behind Wilfork. He plays the pass and the run as well as any NT/DE in the league. The Ravens pass rush works around Ngatas ability to collapse the protection from inside. He destroys tackles one on one, and most guards need help in the passing (and running) game when he gets going. This has yet to manifest itself in big sack numbers, but he's made some great plays against the pass including 3 career INTs. Slauson seems like a marginal talent, but OL is more about balls and power. If he's got enough of that maybe he won't be Wrecks' Adrian Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I see what you're doing here. Reverse psychology. Whenever you've gushed about a player, they've pretty much sucked. Now, you're saying this guy sucks, so it's pretty much a given that he'll work out judging by your past track record. Well played sir. Hopefully this psychological ploy of yours works out. its one in a series of over the top emotional hedges. I hope to eat crow on Matt Slauson. that LG position is going to be tested early and often... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Faneca was the worst pass-blocking interior lineman in the entire NFL last season despite the Jets attempting the fewest passes in the league. How exactly does that qualify as "not broken"? Are you kidding me? Haloti Ngata literally threw Slasuon out the way and ohmost hurt our "franchise QB." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Are you kidding me? Haloti Ngata literally threw Slasuon out the way and ohmost hurt our "franchise QB." Let's see...beaten by one of the best DL in the game, or embarrassed by Randy Starks on two straight plays with a game on the line like Faneca was last year? He was also bullrushed several times for sacks or hits on Sanchez last year too. Faneca was dreadful in pass protection last year. Being beaten by the best is only going to make Slauson a better player. All this crying over one play is ridiculous. If it becomes a trend, then it will be concern. I'm just SOOOO glad Jets' fans never overreact to anything. (Damn it, where is that sarcasm tag?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm so happy that we're paying alan faneca 3.5 million to play for the friggin cardinals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Faneca was the worst pass-blocking interior lineman in the entire NFL last season despite the Jets attempting the fewest passes in the league. How exactly does that qualify as "not broken"? Yet, he was named all-pro last year. Getting rid of Fanenca hurts the Jets Oline as much if not more than the Pats getting rid of Seymour hurt the Patriots d-line. Only difference is Patriots got something in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Let's see...beaten by one of the best DL in the game, or embarrassed by Randy Starks on two straight plays with a game on the line like Faneca was last year? He was also bullrushed several times for sacks or hits on Sanchez last year too. Faneca was dreadful in pass protection last year. Being beaten by the best is only going to make Slauson a better player. All this crying over one play is ridiculous. If it becomes a trend, then it will be concern. I'm just SOOOO glad Jets' fans never overreact to anything. (Damn it, where is that sarcasm tag?) What about the game against Carolina? That's how you hurt your franchise QB. Sanchez ohmost got hurt just like Palmer and Brady did. Slauson sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I agree that our best backup is easily Turner. Maybe he could be a good fit starting at LG? That's exactly why Turner shouldn't and won't be the starting LG. He's the backup for several positions including Center and plays ST. Slauson didn't play that bad in his 1st game against what is probably the second best defense in the league. If anyone thinks Faneca wouldn't have given up at least one sack in that game they need to get their head examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Are you kidding me? Haloti Ngata literally threw Slasuon out the way and ohmost hurt our "franchise QB." Whether or not Slauson sucks has nothing to do with whether or not Faneca also sucked (which in pass protection, he did). Perhaps the Jets needed to do a better job in replacing him, but that still doesn't mean it "wasn't broke". Yet, he was named all-pro last year. Getting rid of Fanenca hurts the Jets Oline as much if not more than the Pats getting rid of Seymour hurt the Patriots d-line. Only difference is Patriots got something in return. He wasn't all-pro, although he was named to the Pro Bowl, but since when does that mean a damn thing? Everyone was already saying when he was named to the Pro Bowl in 2008 that it was just based on his name. Again, the Jets may have needed to do a better job replacing him, but that doesn't mean he didn't need to be replaced. That said, I'm not ready after one game, or more accurately one play in one game, to concede defeat that the Jets are forever doomed at LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmidt Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Just so you know Fanaca had a terrible game with Arizona last week! Slauson had ONE bad play that I saw...YES it was VERY BAD but give the guy a chance...MOST NFL linemen are lower round picks...it has almost always been that way. Oh yeah (Jones had a great game last week)! BUT you trade or let go of veterans a year early and rebuild on the run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Slauson gave up one sack and 2 QB hits, not good for a guard. He was still better then Faneca last year. He played very well at the point on attack for a first year starter against a Pro Bowl caliber player. His pass protection needs work, but he will be fine. Over all he had a good game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Slauson gave up one sack and 2 QB hits, not good for a guard. He was still better then Faneca last year. He played very well at the point on attack for a first year starter against a Pro Bowl caliber player. His pass protection needs work, but he will be fine. Over all he had a good game Also lost on people is the fact that Woody also had a bad game and so did Brick to a certain degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Solution: Woody at LG, Hunter at RT. Vlad becomes this year's third OT (ala Hunter's Jumbo package position). Slauson is our swing insider (OG/OT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 ... slausen did a C+ job in his 1st start at LG against Ngata (as could be reasonably expected) ... ... let's see how he performs this week ... l_j_r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 it's a Jets fan fiction that Haloti Ngata does that to alot of players. He's a run stuffer who gets like 2 sacks a year. as for slauson... i never thought he had what it took at Nebraska and Im not a fan now. I dont know how a 6th round pick can be a reach but in Slauson's case it was too high a price. Rob Turner should be started and it should have happened a month ago. He does do that to alot of players. Just like Jenkins does it to alot of players and only had 2 or 3 sacks a year,except earlier in his career. There are other ways to dominate as DLman than getting sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Slauson is not as good as faneca. He's almost gotten sanchez injured TWICE. Bad move by the jets -- it's OK to disagree with the front office, ya bunch of sheep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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