How did the D shut down Welker in 2nd half?

[Steveg]

This was not elaborated on and I was just wondering....

[PatsFanTX]

This was not elaborated on and I was just wondering....

Max brought up a good point in another thread.

Looks like the Jets put safety help on Welker the 2nd half.

[JiF]

Max brought up a good point in another thread.

Looks like the Jets put safety help on Welker the 2nd half.

They also stopped have LB'ers jamming him at the line. For some reason, I think Welker actually prefers this because they can only stay on him for so long and the second they release, he's on his way to a first down.

It looked like straight man coverage of the line with safety help while we went one on one with the rest of the receiving core.

Once they negated Welker, Brady was out of sorts. It looked like he kept waiting for the big play down field and really wastn even going through his normal progressions. Lots of times it looked like he had a shot at the TE and he went a different direction.

[PatsFanTX]

It looked like he kept waiting for the big play down field and really wastn even going through his normal progressions. Lots of times it looked like he had a shot at the TE and he went a different direction.

That's an excellent observation JiF!

In the 2nd half it looked like Brady was focused on getting the ball deep to Moss. It was either throw it up to Moss or panic and look for another receiver.

Brady did not go through his normal progression reads in the 2nd half like he did in the first half. Even though the Jets contained Welker in the 2nd half, Hernandez was still open underneath but Brady did not even look for him.

I wonder if Revis never left the game if Brady and the Pats would have continued the game plan that worked so well in the 1st half?

[visajets]

I tend to believe when you have an elusive WR such as Welker you need to jam him at the line. Do all you need to in that 5 yard window to slow him down.

Whatever worked in the second half use it as the game plan the entire game next meeting.

[THE ILK]

It had nothing to do with Revis being on the field, that's for sure!

[JiF]

That's an excellent observation JiF!

In the 2nd half it looked like Brady was focused on getting the ball deep to Moss. It was either throw it up to Moss or panic and look for another receiver.

Brady did not go through his normal progression reads in the 2nd half like he did in the first half. Even though the Jets contained Welker in the 2nd half, Hernandez was still open underneath but Brady did not even look for him.

I wonder if Revis never left the game if Brady and the Pats would have continued the game plan that worked so well in the 1st half?

Interesting thought...the temptation to try Cro was greater than trying Revis.

I dont know, but I watched replays and you could see he wasnt looking around the field the way he was in the 1st half. He was locking onto Moss big time and definitely had the TE's open a couple of times and chose to go other direction.

This all goes back to the genius of Rex. His channeling Brady through Sanchez last week clearly helped

[Child please]

It's hard for belicheat to come up with 2nd half adjustments without being able to go over a little illegal videotape at halftime.

He's pretty much Marty Morningwig in a grey hoodie.

[PatsFanTX]

It's hard for belicheat to come up with 2nd half adjustments without being able to go over a little illegal videotape at halftime.

Do you ever provide any football insight in your posts?

[Child please]

Do you ever provide any football insight in your posts?

Do you ever get out of your house?

[Klecko73isGod]

That's an excellent observation JiF!

In the 2nd half it looked like Brady was focused on getting the ball deep to Moss. It was either throw it up to Moss or panic and look for another receiver.

Brady did not go through his normal progression reads in the 2nd half like he did in the first half. Even though the Jets contained Welker in the 2nd half, Hernandez was still open underneath but Brady did not even look for him.

I wonder if Revis never left the game if Brady and the Pats would have continued the game plan that worked so well in the 1st half?

Just made this point in another thread - Hernandez is going to be a beast for you guys if Brady can get him the ball.

Brady must really used to his TEs sucking so maybe that's why he doesn't trust the kid yet.

[PatsFanTX]

Just made this point in another thread - Hernandez is going to be a beast for you guys if Brady can get him the ball.

Brady must really used to his TEs sucking so maybe that's why he doesn't trust the kid yet.

I don't think it has anything to do with trust (Hernandez has caught everything Brady has thrown his way so far).

The BS throws to Moss yeasterday were pathetic, Brady had a gerbil up his a$$ the entire 2nd half.

[CTM]

I don't think it has anything to do with trust (Hernandez has caught everything Brady has thrown his way so far).

The BS throws to Moss yeasterday were pathetic, Brady had a gerbil up his a$$ the entire 2nd half.

trying to recapture 2007.. that drive at end of half was so easy.. it's gotta be tough sometimes mentally to not press for a big play when momentum starts to turn and you have a track record of success with it

[PatsFanTX]

trying to recapture 2007.. that drive at end of half was so easy.. it's gotta be tough sometimes mentally to not press for a big play when momentum starts to turn and you have a track record of success with it

That track record of success is 3 years old.

The Pats offense is totally different today than it was in 2007.

Hell, in 2007 Brady would have laid that TD pass to Moss right over his left shoulder. If it weren't for a great one-handed graby by Moss, that ball would have been overthrown.

Brady has definately struggled throwing the deep ball the last 2 years. That's why the 2nd half (getting away from the short underneath stuff) pissed me off so much yesterday.

[Klecko73isGod]

trying to recapture 2007.. that drive at end of half was so easy.. it's gotta be tough sometimes mentally to not press for a big play when momentum starts to turn and you have a track record of success with it

Does Brady not realize that everybody knows this is the case and will key on it and some teams can stop it while others can't or is he just so arrogant that he thinks he and Moss can do whatever they want no matter who they are playing?

Both he and Belichick had the deer in the headlights look in the 4th quarter yesterday. It reminded me of the movie "Miracle" when the US has the lead late and Herb Brooks looks over at the Soviet bench and their coach is frantic and then Brooksy grabs his assistant coach and says "he doesn't know what to do!" That's the look BB had on his face in the 4th quarter yesterday.

It was beautiful.

For the record: Rex Ryan is now 2-1 vs. Belichick.

[CTM]

That track record of success is 3 years old.

The Pats offense is totally different today than it was in 2007.

Hell, in 2007 Brady would have laid that TD pass to Moss right over his left shoulder. If it weren't for a great one-handed graby by Moss, that ball would have been overthrown.

Brady has definately struggled throwing the deep ball the last 2 years. That's why the 2nd half (getting away from the short underneath stuff) pissed me off so much yesterday.

I know it, you know it, but a top tier athlete recovering from a serious injury ego might not allow him to know it. Obviously speculation, but they were soo good in 2007, I'm sure they are fixated on getting back to that level..

[Maxman]

I wish I had the game tape but there was one play in the 3rd qtr, early when the Jets doubled Welker, and didn't jam him (excellent catch CTM). Welker turned left saw the safety, broke right and was covered the whole time. He seemed frustrated, as is any receiver with a double. I loved the adjustment though. In the 1st half the Jets didn't seem to have many answers. The 2nd half was very fun to watch though.