Vicious89x Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 You can only play who's on your schedule. Right. But my point is that he had some really good teams on his schedule both years and he didn't beat them or put on a virtuoso performance that is expected if you're being anointed into the top 3 -5 QB's. He's a good QB who crushes terrible teams but hasn't exactly set the world on fire when he's had to play under the brightest of lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 And I'm not even talking SB wins. Just regular season or post-season wins. 2008- 6-10 Overall W- Vikings (no Favre) W- Lions (0-16 year) L- Cowboys L- Bucs L- Falcons W- Seahawks (4-12 Year) W- Colts (Rodgers line: 21-28 1TD 186 YDS) L-Titans L-Vikings W- Bears L- Saints L- Panthers L- Texans L- Jags L- Bears W- Lions Lots of wins against TERRIBLE teams and the Colts win he was basically "serviceable". 2009: 11-5 W: Bears L: Bengals W: Rams L: Vikings W: Lions W: Browns L: Vikings L: Bucs W: Cowboys W: 49ers W Lions W: Ravens W: Bears L: Steelers W: Seahawks W: Cardinals Playoffs: L- Cardinals So take a look over last season and pick out teams that were REALLY good teams and then look into his stats. The kid will do it in the next few years, but right now he's not in those top 3. You cant discredit what he did last season, 4,400yrds, 30 TD and 7 INT's is impressive. He beat some good teams last year...but he lost the one that mattered most. He's not top 3 yet. He's outstanding, but I'm not throwing him in the same category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Did Rodgers really "lose" that playoff game? If anything that game confirmed him as a top QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 You cant discredit what he did last season, 4,400yrds, 30 TD and 7 INT's is impressive. He beat some good teams last year...but he lost the one that mattered most. He's not top 3 yet. He's outstanding, but I'm not throwing him the same category. Exactly. The kid has a RIDICULOUS amount of talent. But he's not up there yet until as you put it, he starts getting those wins. Would I take him on my team? Hell yes and I still think what the Packers did in getting rid of Favre was the right move. Had they kept him Rodgers is on the bench for another year at least. Overall my point is that he's still missing those wins on his resume, that's all. I think the way our culture is we tend to quickly and dramatically make statements. But I am totally agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Look at this poop that comes out your mouth. The kid couldnt even beat Jay Cutler last night and you'd take him for one game over 3 Super Bowl winning champs. Your C# programming has made your brains the mush. For one game, I'm still taking Manning, Brees, Brady or Rapeburger. They've done it before and proved they can win with the pressure on, something your wet dream QB has never done. BTW, what happened to your hard on for Rivers? Manning has blown 10 big games for every 1 he's one. Brady can't do squat anymore. Brees has been playing 2x longer. And I don't see who in thier right mind would take big ben of rodgers rights now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Manning has blown 10 big games for every 1 he's one. Brady can't do squat anymore. Brees has been playing 2x longer. And I don't see who in thier right mind would take big ben of rodgers rights now. He doesn't take no for an answer. That's gotta count for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 You cant discredit what he did last season, 4,400yrds, 30 TD and 7 INT's is impressive. He beat some good teams last year...but he lost the one that mattered most. He's not top 3 yet. He's outstanding, but I'm not throwing him in the same category. So you're knocking a guy for going: 28/42 .. 423 yards 4 tds 1 int.. And putting up 45 pts during a ROAD playoff game? WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Manning has blown 10 big games for every 1 he's one. Brady can't do squat anymore. Brees has been playing 2x longer. And I don't see who in thier right mind would take big ben of rodgers rights now. Winning is everything. So you're knocking a guy for going: 28/42 .. 423 yards 4 tds 1 int.. And putting up 45 pts during a ROAD playoff game? WOW Winning is everything. After you remind me how the Packers lost that game, tell me how it felt when Jay Cutler beat him last night while you were slobbing his log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Winning is everything. Winning is everything. After you remind me how the Packers lost that game, tell me how it felt when Jay Cutler beat him last night while you were slobbing his log. If you watched that game and thought Cutler was the better QB you are dumber then your boyfriend is fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 If you watched that game and thought Cutler was the better QB you are dumber then your boyfriend is fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 If you watched that game and thought Cutler was the better QB you are dumber then your boyfriend is fat Winning is everything. Aaronrodgerspenisbreath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Winning is everything. Winning is everything. After you remind me how the Packers lost that game, tell me how it felt when Jay Cutler beat him last night while you were slobbing his log. You can't use a team statistic like winning to evaluate individual performance... You're basically blaming Rodgers for his defense sucking that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 lol Are we judging QB's on how they can tackle and block now? noodlenerdfag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Winning is everything. Aaronrodgerspenisbreath. I'd like to shove you up J-Tay's a$$, and then stuff J-Tay up crushers and make a gay babushka doll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 You can't use a team statistic like winning to evaluate individual performance... You're basically blaming Rodgers for his defense sucking that night. How did that game end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'd like to shove you up J-Tay's a$$, and then stuff J-Tay up crushers and make a gay babushka doll Using babushka in a burn confirms your gheyness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 How did that game end? How did last year's super bowl end? So by your definition since Manning choked (again) shouldn't he be below Brees on the pecking order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'd like to shove you up J-Tay's a$$, and then stuff J-Tay up crushers and make a gay babushka doll We know but we chose to talk to you here anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 How did last year's super bowl end? So by your definition since Manning choked (again) shouldn't he be below Brees on the pecking order? Manning has a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Manning has a ring. So does Brees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 So does Brees... And they are both better than Rodgers...so whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 Everyone needs to stop d-riding Aaron Rodgers. God this Packers' team in general is overrated...He gets a million times more credit than he deserves because he saved football in Green Bay post-Favre. Yes, he's a very good player with some very intriguing skills. He still hasn't won sh*t. Give me Phil Rivers over him any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Everyone needs to stop d-riding Aaron Rodgers. God this Packers' team in general is overrated...He gets a million times more credit than he deserves because he saved football in Green Bay post-Favre. Yes, he's a very good player with some very intriguing skills. He still hasn't won sh*t. Give me Phil Rivers over him any day. I'm a big Rivers guy as well.. Rodgers is just a better player.. And that's a good team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'm a big Rivers guy as well.. Rodgers is just a better player.. And that's a good team.. Debatable at best...Rivers has 4-5 more TD passes with 100 less passes in the past two full seasons...they've thrown the same amount of INTs. Weirdly enough their teams are built very similarly... They're a very good offense, but that D after Matthews is either old or mediocre...especially the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I'm a big Rivers guy as well.. Rodgers is just a better player.. And that's a good team.. Rodgers TD celebration > Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Everyone needs to stop d-riding Aaron Rodgers. God this Packers' team in general is overrated...He gets a million times more credit than he deserves because he saved football in Green Bay post-Favre. Yes, he's a very good player with some very intriguing skills. He still hasn't won sh*t. Give me Phil Rivers over him any day. btw.. best avatar on the site.. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 Did he celebrate by giving himself a belt? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0ZrS-7ZXTM&feature=related Philip Rivers ftmfw. btw.. best avatar on the site.. thank you Don't thank me citizen! Thank Katie Perry's beautiful, bountiful chest! And America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 btw.. best avatar on the site.. thank you I HAD MY HAND IN THIS. Please enjoy more b00bz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Debatable at best...Rivers has 4-5 more TD passes with 100 less passes in the past two full seasons...they've thrown the same amount of INTs. Weirdly enough their teams are built very similarly... They're a very good offense, but that D after Matthews is either old or mediocre...especially the secondary. That's including Rogers first year. Just compare last season.. even better just watch them. Rodgers can do things Rivers just can't.. better arm, faster, more elusive in pocket.. and everybit the same amount of accuracy and decsion making.. I think Rivers is also at top 6-7 guy too btw.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 That's including Rogers first year. Just compare last season.. even better just watch them. Rodgers can do things Rivers just can't.. better arm, faster, more elusive in pocket.. and everybit the same amount of accuracy and decsion making.. I think Rivers is also at top 6-7 guy too btw.. Time will solve this one...They're both pretty awesome anyway...as you know I just have to get on Rodgers right now because eveeeeeeryone on the internet is d-riding the sh*t out of this guy. If he were QB'ing for a town that doesn't have football as it's #1 industry he'd just be one of the young QBs who hasn't done anything but plays like awesome. Location is his key. I'm a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I HAD MY HAND IN THIS. Please enjoy more b00bz very nice as well.. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Time will solve this one...They're both pretty awesome anyway...as you know I just have to get on Rodgers right now because eveeeeeeryone on the internet is d-riding the sh*t out of this guy. If he were QB'ing for a town that doesn't have football as it's #1 industry he'd just be one of the young QBs who hasn't done anything but plays like awesome. Location is his key. I'm a hater. It's more then that imo. He's really good. Reminds me of Marino/Manning in that feeling you get that the only way to stop him is fumbles or his Oline holds (and even then it's 50/50).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 It's more then that imo. Yeah no I get it...he's basically what Cutler would be if Cutler was smart/older than 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I thought Mike McCarthy was a pretty damn good head coach until last night. That challenge was beyond the threshold of stupidity. And then not letting the Bears score was just as bad. The last two minutes reached an Andy Reidian level of mismanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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