SenorGato Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Very profound stuff from the NY football Giants defensive captain. I heard him say it yesterday, didn't remember I wanted to post a thread on it until just now. As it turns out, some of the league's more educated players see the big picture that should obvious but somehow isn't. It's nice to know. The Coughlin situation is an interesting one. I hope he leaves on his own terms when he does leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 What's the difference, then? Seems to me from your posts and Tuck's comments, they could replace Coughlin with a glass of milk and it wouldn't make a difference one way or the other. Players will decide if they win or not, so the HC, OC, etc matter not. It's all about the execution. The fact that some head coaches continually do well despite player trades and turnover, and some continually do badly, is pure coincidence. They've just been getting lucky or unlucky enough to have players good enough or who execute well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Wow, zero respect for their coaches. No wonder the Giants are so undisciplined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Sperm, don't you know? All head coaches who are unlucky enough not to have A.J. Smith as their team's GM are off the hook. Except Rex Ryan, because Brian Schottenheimer can't be at fault for any failings by our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 This is what players say right before their coach gets fired. It's the classic, "It's not you, it's me" line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Love how Giants spent a good part of training camp and first couple of weeks saying it was still their city, and that the Jets talk too much. Also could have done without Tuck and a few others commenting on the DUI, when Jacobs was throwing helmets at fans the day before. How's all that working out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Love how Giants spent a good part of training camp and first couple of weeks saying it was still their city, and that the Jets talk too much. Also could have done without Tuck and a few others commenting on the DUI, when Jacobs was throwing helmets at fans the day before. How's all that working out? For the record, Tuck was one of the loudest about NY being their town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Yeah he was, him and Jacobs. Jacobs starting chirping about how they got the first victory in the stadium over us. Forgetting that his first team got their doors blown off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 The giants are 4-10 in their last 14, with like 36 turnovers, and they are giving up 30-40 points a game. That's worst team in the league status right there. Hey Tuck, I think it's safe to say your entire team loses games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Yeah he was, him and Jacobs. Jacobs starting chirping about how they got the first victory in the stadium over us. Forgetting that his first team got their doors blown off. And how he had 2 yards on 4 carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Man this bizarre Gato/Schott crap is the 2010 ARod/Clarke. Might as well sticky something to the top of the board Max because it's clear this is never going to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I'm sure Bill Cowher is glad to know that Tuck won't be trying to throw him under the bus next season if they fall short of expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I'm sure Bill Cowher is glad to know that Tuck won't be trying to throw him under the bus next season if they fall short of expectations. I don't think Cowher has the balls to coach in New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Giants should try to pry Gruden from ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Man this bizarre Gato/Schott crap is the 2010 ARod/Clarke. Might as well sticky something to the top of the board Max because it's clear this is never going to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Man this bizarre Gato/Schott crap is the 2010 ARod/Clarke. Might as well sticky something to the top of the board Max because it's clear this is never going to end. Well played. The most hilarious part is that he keeps starting new threads about it on a near daily basis and then incessantly whines about how other people won't get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 This is what players say right before their coach gets fired. It's the classic, "It's not you, it's me" line. I'm going to hit this with a +1. Now...is Tom Coughlin a bad coach? RJF, you're right I'll probably keep touching the issue. It's an extremely interesting one...the NFL coaching cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I don't think Cowher has the balls to coach in New York. I don't think so either, but Bettis says he will be coaching the jints. We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 RJF, you're right I'll probably keep touching the issue. It's an extremely interesting one...the NFL coaching cycle. That's the point though, like Hector (and gag...Shane) pointed out above, this is really nothing more than a player not throwing his coach under the bus. If you want to open up discussions as to the impact of a coaching staff on its players at the end of the day, that's fine. But posting ambiguity and bitonti'isms nonstop really doesn't serve your premise very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 bitonti'isms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I don't think Cowher has the balls to coach in New York. I think Cowher is already moving his stuff into John Fox's office in Carolina as we speak. I think he owns a house down there. I could see Leslie Frazier getting that job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 That's the point though, like Hector (and gag...Shane) pointed out above... <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 That's the point though, like Hector (and gag...Shane) pointed out above, this is really nothing more than a player not throwing his coach under the bus. If you want to open up discussions as to the impact of a coaching staff on its players at the end of the day, that's fine. But posting ambiguity and bitonti'isms nonstop really doesn't serve your premise very well. Well sh*t man...when you're right you're right...and you sir are right. I will step back and develop my thoughts on coaching's impact on players at the NFL level. It would have been fun if it wasn't so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Well sh*t man...when you're right you're right...and you sir are right. I will step back and develop my thoughts on coaching's impact on players at the NFL level. I took that quote out of context a little bit anyway...he really was just not throwing his coach under the bus. Or you could work on getting that HGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 Or you could work on getting that HGH. HGH is years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 HGH is years away. And the development of your thoughts on coaching's impact on players at the NFL level's not? sh*t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 And the development of your thoughts on coaching's impact on players at the NFL level's not? sh*t! Mere weeks. You're all f*cked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Mere weeks. You're all f*cked. Perhaps something bigger that the Revis holdout, the Ines abuse, and the Braylon DWI is about to save us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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