Jets clock management at the end of the game

[Morrissey]

Should of cost the Jets the game, Lowery saved Sanchez and Rex's fat a$$.

[THE ILK]

Sanchez snapped it too quick.

[Blackout]

Jets won

[JiF]

Pretty stupid. Just the run the stinking ball.

[Larz]

yup it sucked, and I was ready to go to bed and cry myself to sleep

but

they own !

[SenorGato]

Clock management...I hope that doesn't come back to buzzword me. Rex escapes again, and here's hoping he does it for many years afterward.

[Vudu]

I think the Gods are smiling on us this season...that had a SOJ type loss written all over it.

[Irish Jet]

Between that and McCoy falling on SNF am starting to think Goodell is taking notes from Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

[kelticwizard]

I agree the clock management was peculiar, to say the least. Here is what I think was the reasoning behind it.

The Vikings were only two points down, all they needed was a field goal to win the game. Favre was absolutely on fire. If the Jets ran the ball and failed to make the first down, they could not run the clock completely down-there would still be a minute, maybe more, on the clock when the Vikings got the ball back.

The way the game was going, the Jets did not have the confidence that they could stop the Vikings from marching from the 20 or 25, (where they would receive the ball) down to the Jets' 35. That's only 40 yards and the way Favre was playing, it looked like he could do it. So they took the chance and passed on second and third down, which if they were successful would have enabled the Jets to completely run the clock down.

Unfortunately they didn't make the first down, the clock stopped with the incomplete pass, and the Jets put themselves in a much tougher situation than if they had just run the ball and left considerably less time on the clock.

I'm not saying it was good clock management, but there was a strategy to it. The strategy just didn't work.

[Maxman]

Pretty stupid. Just the run the stinking ball.

I disagree, the Jets needed a 1st down there. The problem was snapping the ball with 6 seconds on the play clock. I was okay with the pass. It was 2nd down I believe, you snap it just before 2:00 and even the shortest plays with an incomplete pass gives you the 2 minute warning. They snapped it with 6 or 7 seconds on the play clock, that was the issue.

Shocked Mark did that, I put that on him...

I do agree with the thread though, that could have lost them the game. Basically gave the ball back with 40 extra seconds.

[JohnnyLV]

Should of cost the Jets the game, Lowery saved Sanchez and Rex's fat a$$.

Passing there was a great call. Sanchez just snapped the ball too soon. First down and game over.

[Irish Jet]

It was ALL terrible.

It's pretty simple what you do. We had the ball, first down with 2:47 on the clock - You put in Brad Smith, have him run around, or even backwards for 8 seconds. THEN you have a two minute warning for 2nd down. Then two runs up the middle to give Minny less than 40 seconds to do something against your supposed great defense with zero timeouts.

What we do, is run a quick play, then have an incomplete pass. So instead of running one play before the 2 minute warning, we run three. Just brutal stuff. Minny got the ball back with 1:50 I believe...That's not acceptable.

[Sperm Edwards]

Ryan even addressed it at the podium. Think this is one of those things that happens once and never again. Lucky for us it didn't cost us. Usually you have to learn that lesson by losing a game.

[Klecko73isGod]

Ryan even addressed it at the podium. Think this is one of those things that happens once and never again. Lucky for us it didn't cost us. Usually you have to learn that lesson by losing a game.

That clock management by Ryan was absolutely Dick Curlian.

It should have been insanely simple. Run it down to 2:02, take a timeout. Run your 2nd and 10 play which takes you down to about 1:55 for the two minute warning, not to mention the benefit of taking the time to compose your young QB and run the right play.

Snap the ball on third down at 1:55. Worst case scenario, you're punting at about 1:07.

[PatsFanTX]

That clock management by Ryan was absolutely Dick Curlian.

It should have been insanely simple. Run it down to 2:02, take a timeout. Run your 2nd and 10 play which takes you down to about 1:55 for the two minute warning, not to mention the benefit of taking the time to compose your young QB and run the right play.

Snap the ball on third down at 1:55. Worst case scenario, you're punting at about 1:07.

Obviously, that sequence must have slipped Rex's mind.

[shawn306]

I agree with Max. It was a great call it was just executed poorly by Sanchez by snapping the ball with 6 seconds left.

He hits that and its game over. Minnesota is looking run there no doubt. If Sanchez snaps that ball with 1 second left on the play clock then complete or incomplete you hit the two minute warning.

That one is one Sanchez.

[Klecko73isGod]

Obviously, that sequence must have slipped Rex's mind.

Your neck hurting yet?

[NJ]

Usually you have to learn that lesson by losing a game.

Yes. And I accept and revere the horseshoe hanging from Rex's fat azz.

[Sperm Edwards]

While possible, I don't 100% buy that it's all on Sanchez. If Rex/Schottenheimer were so on top of the clock, they yap into Sanchez's helmet to not snap the ball until there's 1 second left on the play clock. Unless that's exactly what happened and Sanchez ignored them and snapped it early anyway, which seems pretty friggin' unlikely, it's on all of them.

[JerryK]

In another game this year, I heard the announcers say "this is a GREAT clock-management decision by the coaches". ..but I don't remember the game or situation.

So I'm going to call it a 1-time misstep unless it happens again.

[GREENBEAN]

yup it sucked, and I was ready to go to bed and cry myself to sleep

but

they own !

They own indeed!

I have no idea why they didn't run it from the 4 yd line in the down pour either. There were some significant coaching mistakes last night at critical times, but the truth is that we played a full 60 minutes of football and won against Favre/Moss/ AP/ Harvin and a solid D on Mon night. We usually lose these games and did last year.

but this time WE OWN!!!!

[JiF]

I disagree, the Jets needed a 1st down there. The problem was snapping the ball with 6 seconds on the play clock. I was okay with the pass. It was 2nd down I believe, you snap it just before 2:00 and even the shortest plays with an incomplete pass gives you the 2 minute warning. They snapped it with 6 or 7 seconds on the play clock, that was the issue.

Shocked Mark did that, I put that on him...

I do agree with the thread though, that could have lost them the game. Basically gave the ball back with 40 extra seconds.

Maybe I was just tired and not paying attention but I though the play clock was going to die before the game clock so he had to snap it before the 2 minute warning. Which in that case, on 2nd down, you must run the ball to take it into the 2 minute warning.

Am I mistaken?

[Klecko73isGod]

Maybe I was just tired and not paying attention but I though the play clock was going to die before the game clock so he had to snap it before the 2 minute warning. Which in that case, on 2nd down, you must run the ball to take it into the 2 minute warning.

Am I mistaken?

There was about a 2 second differential. The smart play would have been to run the clock down the 2:02 or 2:03 and call a timeout.

[JiF]

There was about a 2 second differential. The smart play would have been to run the clock down the 2:02 or 2:03 and call a timeout.

I'm so confused. So the play clock would have run out before the game clock?

So then its a no brainer, run the ball, let it go to into the 2 minute warning and then try and pick up the first down to ice the game.

Definitely should have taken a time out and then got into the 2 minute if you didnt want to run the ball, but I would have just run the ball with LT and hoped he picked up the first.

[SMC]

As noted, Sanchez in his presser said it was his fault. He snapped the ball too early. It happened.

That said, Tyler, total BS that the Jets should have lost because of that. Get real. Chilly is a horrible HC and Favre is the Crunch Time INT King.

There was no way the Vikes were winning that game in the end. The Jets players said it in the postgage.

Sean Ellis: "We said, 'Let's just keep playing, he'll throw us one.' We were just waiting for him to show up."

[JohnnyHector]

Maybe I was just tired and not paying attention but I though the play clock was going to die before the game clock so he had to snap it before the 2 minute warning. Which in that case, on 2nd down, you must run the ball to take it into the 2 minute warning.

Am I mistaken?

Yes, very much so.

If you snap the ball with 2:02 left and run a passing play, it should take you down the the two-minute warning, regardless of whether or not it is completed.

[visajets]

Hard to lay the blame here on the this debacle. Sanchez wears a helmet with a communication device. Was he reminded or wasnt he? In the heat of the game alot goes on.

[JohnnyHector]

Obviously, a Jets victory is paramount, but their inability to kill the clock cost me my fantasy game.

I was up by 5 and facing the Jets defense. That pick-6 sent my record to 2-3.

Oh, well...

[JiF]

Yes, very much so.

If you snap the ball with 2:02 left and run a passing play, it should take you down the the two-minute warning, regardless of whether or not it is completed.

OK...gotcha. It was wayyy past my bed time. The play clock was going to run out before the game clock got to 2minutes, we ran a play with 2:06 remaining, and since it wasnt completed and it was called too early it took us down to 2:02, instead of snapping latter and and the clock running to around 1:58ish.

Either way, running the ball would have eliminated the chances of that happening, no?

[Doggin94it]

While possible, I don't 100% buy that it's all on Sanchez. If Rex/Schottenheimer were so on top of the clock, they yap into Sanchez's helmet to not snap the ball until there's 1 second left on the play clock. Unless that's exactly what happened and Sanchez ignored them and snapped it early anyway, which seems pretty friggin' unlikely, it's on all of them.

Sanchez said he was told not to snap it early, but screwed up.

[Jets Voice of Reason]

OK...gotcha. It was wayyy past my bed time. The play clock was going to run out before the game clock got to 2minutes, we ran a play with 2:06 remaining, and since it wasnt completed and it was called too early it took us down to 2:02, instead of snapping latter and and the clock running to around 1:58ish.

Either way, running the ball would have eliminated the chances of that happening, no?

Yep. We really didn't want to give Favre the ball back, but that was just inexcusable. We easily saved them at least 25 seconds there. Lowery bailed us out big time.

[Jets Voice of Reason]

Sanchez said he was told not to snap it early, but screwed up.

Time management has been a consistent problem for us this year. I'm sure it's an experience thing though, I don't see it being a long term problem. To me, that's got to be Sanchez making better decisions.

[Doggin94it]

Maybe I was just tired and not paying attention but I though the play clock was going to die before the game clock so he had to snap it before the 2 minute warning. Which in that case, on 2nd down, you must run the ball to take it into the 2 minute warning.

Am I mistaken?

Play clock would have run out 3 seconds before the 2 minute warning, but if you snap the ball with one second on the play clock, the play itself will take the game clock down below two minutes by the time the pass falls incomplete.

[Doggin94it]

Maybe I was just tired and not paying attention but I though the play clock was going to die before the game clock so he had to snap it before the 2 minute warning. Which in that case, on 2nd down, you must run the ball to take it into the 2 minute warning.

Am I mistaken?

Play clock would have run out 3 seconds before the 2 minute warning, but if you snap the ball with one second on the play clock, the play itself will take the game clock down below two minutes by the time the pass falls incomplete.

[Doggin94it]

OK...gotcha. It was wayyy past my bed time. The play clock was going to run out before the game clock got to 2minutes, we ran a play with 2:06 remaining, and since it wasnt completed and it was called too early it took us down to 2:02, instead of snapping latter and and the clock running to around 1:58ish.

Either way, running the ball would have eliminated the chances of that happening, no?

Yes - but a run gives you less of a chance of a first down, and a first down ends the game.