Jeru Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Call me crazy - but I wanted Lowery to drop to the turf at the 5 yard line... 1:30 left in the game...Vikings with no time outs... 3 knees and the game's history... Instead - I kept biting my nails against a field goal or TD and an onside kick .... I tested positive and few years ago to SOJ virus ... but just seemed to me a safer football move ... And yes - I had the Jets plus 5.5 - and I still wanted the fall down... Comments ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Call me crazy - but I wanted Lowery to drop to the turf at the 5 yard line... 1:30 left in the game...Vikings with no time outs... 3 knees and the game's history... Instead - I kept biting my nails against a field goal or TD and an onside kick .... I tested positive and few years ago to SOJ virus ... but just seemed to me a safer football move ... And yes - I had the Jets plus 5.5 - and I still wanted the fall down... Comments ?? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I see what you're saying but this put us up 2 scores. I know he's Brett Favre but (insert penis joke here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Dwight Looooooooowwwwwwwwwwery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Call me crazy - but I wanted Lowery to drop to the turf at the 5 yard line... 1:30 left in the game...Vikings with no time outs... 3 knees and the game's history... Instead - I kept biting my nails against a field goal or TD and an onside kick .... I tested positive and few years ago to SOJ virus ... but just seemed to me a safer football move ... And yes - I had the Jets plus 5.5 - and I still wanted the fall down... Comments ?? Haha! I feel ya, man. I was very happy with Lowery's TD (especially after Smith's 90 yard KOR netted just a FG), but I didn't get comfortable until I saw about 22 seconds left on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Call me crazy - but I wanted Lowery to drop to the turf at the 5 yard line... 1:30 left in the game...Vikings with no time outs... 3 knees and the game's history... Instead - I kept biting my nails against a field goal or TD and an onside kick .... I tested positive and few years ago to SOJ virus ... but just seemed to me a safer football move ... And yes - I had the Jets plus 5.5 - and I still wanted the fall down... Comments ?? If a TD only put us up 8, then I agree, but they needed to score twice after the TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 If a TD only put us up 8, then I agree, but they needed to score twice after the TD. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeru Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 If a TD only put us up 8, then I agree, but they needed to score twice after the TD. So you would have sat sipping your Kool-Aid as the Vikings attempt an on-side kick ?? All I'm saying - why tempt fate when falling down guarantees a win (Herm Edwards and "The Fumble" aside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I'm happy Lowery ran it in. There was no one near him, I think he made the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I'm happy Lowery ran it in. There was no one near him, I think he made the right decision. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfilippone Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Call me crazy - but I wanted Lowery to drop to the turf at the 5 yard line... 1:30 left in the game...Vikings with no time outs... 3 knees and the game's history... Instead - I kept biting my nails against a field goal or TD and an onside kick .... I tested positive and few years ago to SOJ virus ... but just seemed to me a safer football move ... And yes - I had the Jets plus 5.5 - and I still wanted the fall down... Comments ?? A football player's natural instinct is to run it in for a TD once they get the ball into their hands. How on earth could Lowery have had the presence of mind to make that kind of decision at the time? Sure, if the coaches had told him to do that prior to the play, maybe. One of the rare times a player takes a knee instead of going in for the score that I have seen: last year the Jags against us. Jones-Drew took a knee, they ran out the clock, kicked a FG and thus our asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 If a TD only put us up 8, then I agree, but they needed to score twice after the TD. with no time outs. Lowery sealed the game by scoring. Either way we still win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Call me crazy - but I wanted Lowery to drop to the turf at the 5 yard line... 1:30 left in the game...Vikings with no time outs... 3 knees and the game's history... Instead - I kept biting my nails against a field goal or TD and an onside kick .... I tested positive and few years ago to SOJ virus ... but just seemed to me a safer football move ... And yes - I had the Jets plus 5.5 - and I still wanted the fall down... Comments ?? I love me some points and to have favre throw a pick six was delicious, but it would have actually been better to not score and run out the clock insuring the victory there. People can think what they want, but putting the ball back in Favre's hands in that situation is a lot more dangerous than us having the ball and kneeling down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 everyone must forget what happenned in SF the week prior. The smart play was for Lowery to take a knee and the jets to kneel three times and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 One of the rare times a player takes a knee instead of going in for the score that I have seen: last year the Jags against us. Jones-Drew took a knee, they ran out the clock, kicked a FG and thus our asses. westbrook did it as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Holiday or Damaja? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 What JiF said. Lowery coulda done worse...I'm just happy to see him make a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 So you would have sat sipping your Kool-Aid as the Vikings attempt an on-side kick ?? All I'm saying - why tempt fate when falling down guarantees a win (Herm Edwards and "The Fumble" aside) There was no one near him. And again, the onside kick means nothing, they were down 9. They needed to score twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Call me crazy - but I wanted Lowery to drop to the turf at the 5 yard line... 1:30 left in the game...Vikings with no time outs... 3 knees and the game's history... Instead - I kept biting my nails against a field goal or TD and an onside kick .... I tested positive and few years ago to SOJ virus ... but just seemed to me a safer football move ... And yes - I had the Jets plus 5.5 - and I still wanted the fall down... Comments ?? You're crazy, retarded and a gambling addict. END THREAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I do not care about the betting lines and the SOJ crap et al. But D Lowe just taking a knee would have been great for the JETS and the fastest way to close the game out. Because with no timeouts JETS would have taken the knee 2-3 times and the game would have been over. The D would not have to take the field again and have to play a few more garbage plays. Considering we have 2 players on defense coming from injuries (Revis and Pace) who had to play extra snaps it was not the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I do not care about the betting lines and the SOJ crap et al. But D Lowe just taking a knee would have been great for the JETS and the fastest way to close the game out. Because with no timeouts JETS would have taken the knee 2-3 times and the game would have been over. The D would not have to take the field again and have to play a few more garbage plays. Considering we have 2 players on defense coming from injuries (Revis and Pace) who had to play extra snaps it was not the best way to go. Take the 6. There's no guarantee we don't fumble the snap on the kneel down. You can tell an offensive player to take a knee when he's about to score a TD (i.e. Jones-Drew last season), but asking a defensive player to do that is almost impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Take the 6. There's no guarantee we don't fumble the snap on the kneel down. You can tell an offensive player to take a knee when he's about to score a TD (i.e. Jones-Drew last season), but asking a defensive player to do that is almost impossible. Why is it impossible ? That's game awareness. Also the victory formation kneel down is the most safest play in football. While i get your point nothing is 100% but it is the safest play in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 The right move is to not score and end the game kneeling. I understand the whole 2 score lead thing but you are playing with fire giving a team with Randy Moss and Percy Harvin a chance to score and get the ball back on an onside kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s dubb Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 So you wanted him to go down instead of going up by 2 scores? Being a fan since 65 has been you a damn nut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Are people actually arguing strategy here? Lowery made a great play. Scoring was a great play. With the TD, the Jets won by 9 points. It was nice. As an anxious fan who watches the Jets on TV a lot I understand being an anxious fan watching on television, but there's no equating those nerves with what should or shouldn't've been done on the field at the time. Lowery scores, and now the Vikes have less than 90 seconds to score, execute an on-sides kick, and then score again, with one of those scores being a TD - all without any timeouts. It was really, really okay for Lowery to take that one to the house. The likelihood of the Vikes coming back at that point would've been roughly the same as them getting a fumble recovery on a Jets' kneel down play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Are people actually arguing strategy here? Lowery made a great play. Scoring was a great play. With the TD, the Jets won by 9 points. It was nice. As an anxious fan who watches the Jets on TV a lot I understand being an anxious fan watching on television, but there's no equating those nerves with what should or shouldn't've been done on the field at the time. Lowery scores, and now the Vikes have less than 90 seconds to score, execute an on-sides kick, and then score again, with one of those scores being a TD - all without any timeouts. It was really, really okay for Lowery to take that one to the house. The likelihood of the Vikes coming back at that point would've been roughly the same as them getting a fumble recovery on a Jets' kneel down play. 1. You give them a much higher probability of winning by giving them the ball that kneeling down and then ending the game on 2-3 downs in victory formation. 2. This has nothing to SOJ crap. I would recommend kneeling down for any other team in that situation (as long as they were not playing us) 3. And you save your defense from having to defend another drive. 4. We had some banged up players on our defense (Revis, Pace). Would have save them the extra effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfilippone Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 1. You give them a much higher probability of winning by giving them the ball that kneeling down and then ending the game on 2-3 downs in victory formation. 2. This has nothing to SOJ crap. I would recommend kneeling down for any other team in that situation (as long as they were not playing us) 3. And you save your defense from having to defend another drive. 4. We had some banged up players on our defense (Revis, Pace). Would have save them the extra effort. When Lowery picked off Favre's pass, he was 30 yards away from the end zone and had a clear path. Lowery didn't have the benefit of hindsight that we all have after watching the replays and mulling over the best strategic option. If the pickoff occurred on our own 30 yard line, I would hope that Lowery would have the sense to secure the ball and not do anything too outlandish with it (ie. just go down). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 By giving the Vikings the ball back, you give them life. It would take an amazing comeback but it can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 By giving the Vikings the ball back, you give them life. With a 9-point deficit, 1:30 on the clock and no timeouts. I'll take the pick 6 every time. Much more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 it should be noted lowery was on the 25 going in... it wasn't like he tried an 80 yard return in traffic. if running a TD in on a pick 6 is a mistake i hope Dwight Lowery makes that mistake more often. (also he covered) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 When Lowery picked off Favre's pass, he was 30 yards away from the end zone and had a clear path. Lowery didn't have the benefit of hindsight that we all have after watching the replays and mulling over the best strategic option. If the pickoff occurred on our own 30 yard line, I would hope that Lowery would have the sense to secure the ball and not do anything too outlandish with it (ie. just go down). That's what they hare trained to do. Take a knee in such situations. Its hindsight for a few fans. The position on the field does not matter unless you are in you own 10 yards from end zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 The right move is to not score and end the game kneeling. I understand the whole 2 score lead thing but you are playing with fire giving a team with Randy Moss and Percy Harvin a chance to score and get the ball back on an onside kick. 100% correct. But with the emotion at that point of the game I think at least 14% of Jet fans may have had a heart attack before they realized it was the right move. he has an open path for the end zone and takes a slide. Dammit, there go's another coffee table. Cool thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Lowery got in untouched, it was practically a 0 risk play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Lowery got in untouched, it was practically a 0 risk play. That isn't the argument. People are saying he should have purposely not scored so that we could run out the clock. That would have been the right move IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 That isn't the argument. People are saying he should have purposely not scored so that we could run out the clock. That would have been the right move IMO. Why? He got in the end zone untouched, there was like no risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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