lancemehl Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 these dudes remind me of Marvin Jones and Mo Lewis. Two lifetime jets draft picks (3 #1's and a 3) that do nothing but quietly remain in the starting lineup for 10+ years, through multiple coaches and DC's, rack up a couple pro-bowls(Ellis 2, Mo 3) and just play. True Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yup. Ellis is a personal favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjets Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 both these guys are having a monster year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan718 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 agreed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yup. Ellis is a personal favorite. Ellis is having a freakish year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Parcells has a knack at drafting solid DE's. Who is the 2nd longest tenured Jet behind Ellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Mo Lewis = most underrated OLB EVER! I have a lot of appreciation for Ellis and Thomas...above average players who shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbacker Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Parcells has a knack at drafting solid DE's. Who is the 2nd longest tenured Jet behind Ellis? That would be BT. Alos very underrated in his run-stuffing ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 That would be BT. Alos very underrated in his run-stuffing ability. Tought so, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 Mo Lewis = most underrated OLB EVER! I have a lot of appreciation for Ellis and Thomas...above average players who shut up and play. He went to three pro bowls. He was treated harshly by Jet fans at the end. They called him Slo-Mo on the old board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share Posted October 14, 2010 That would be BT. Alos very underrated in his run-stuffing ability. With cotchery right behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Ellis is so underrated. He needs to fire his agent and PR guy and get someone who can get him some pub. Thomas sucked for years but Ryan has turned his career around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 He went to three pro bowls. He was treated harshly by Jet fans at the end. They called him Slo-Mo on the old board. Yeah, that used to kill me. I can completely understand trashing a guy if he turns out to be a POS or if the effort isn't there. Ripping a guy because his skill are naturally declining after contributing that much is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yeah, that used to kill me. I can completely understand trashing a guy if he turns out to be a POS or if the effort isn't there. Ripping a guy because his skill are naturally declining after contributing that much is a joke. It wasn't just declining skill due to age. Herm's cover-2 killed MO and Marvin. The team was set up for the 3-4 and that moron, and by extension those that hired him, came in and ran a D that didn't suit most ot the players. Big non-penetrating linemen, graat cover corners that don't like to hit (Glenn, Coleman), in the box safety (Green), and big vet LBs that can play in a phonebooth (Cox, Lewis, Jones). Let's use a D that needs penetrating linemen, small cover LBs, CBs that tackle and play facing the QB and safeties that can cover half the field. Smart. Tampa was the flavor of the month and as usual the Jets tried to jump on the bandwagon instead of doing what works and make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Parcells has a knack at drafting solid DE's. Who is the 2nd longest tenured Jet behind Ellis? Bryan Thomas and Brandon Moore were both 2002 I believe, Moore was released and resigned since then but I wouldn't count that against him. He's turned out to be a great guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Bryan Thomas and Brandon Moore were both 2002 I believe, Moore was released and resigned since then but I wouldn't count that against him. He's turned out to be a great guard. Was Moore even drafted? I thought he was an UDFA DT out of college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 It wasn't just declining skill due to age. Herm's cover-2 killed MO and Marvin. The team was set up for the 3-4 and that moron, and by extension those that hired him, came in and ran a D that didn't suit most ot the players. Big non-penetrating linemen, graat cover corners that don't like to hit (Glenn, Coleman), in the box safety (Green), and big vet LBs that can play in a phonebooth (Cox, Lewis, Jones). Let's use a D that needs penetrating linemen, small cover LBs, CBs that tackle and play facing the QB and safeties that can cover half the field. Smart. Tampa was the flavor of the month and as usual the Jets tried to jump on the bandwagon instead of doing what works and make sense. At least Mangini had the good sense to take the next 3 years switching us back to the 3-4 once our Herm-2 defense was installed. Only thing relevant I'll add to the thread subject is that Ellis has had solid seasons in every defense here. Thomas had a handful of not-horrible starts when Abe was having a shiny new vagina installed late 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Was Moore even drafted? I thought he was an UDFA DT out of college. Yup, undrafted and spent a year in Europe with the Claymore's, but he's been apart of Jets since 2002 unless you factor in his release. He's the 3rd longest tenured Jet behind Ellis and Thomas. Not Cotchery like lancemehl was suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 At least Mangini had the good sense to take the next 3 years switching us back to the 3-4 once our Herm-2 defense was installed. Only thing relevant I'll add to the thread subject is that Ellis has had solid seasons in every defense here. Thomas had a handful of not-horrible starts when Abe was having a shiny new vagina installed late 2004. I agree. Thing is, that 2005 team was due to be blown up. There were a couple of guys that lost out on the transition - DRob and Vilma - because they didn't fit the new scheme. There were no pieces around that were worth building a team around IMO. True they had suffered from a ton of injuries, but they were like 28th in total D. The team Herm took over was 9-7 and better than mid-pack in D. On topic: I've always liked Ellis. He's done the job forever at a fairly high level. Thomas? I'm not so fond of him, but he keeps his mouth shut and he's been playing pretty good. Took him long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Thomas is the reason why you just don't cut Gholston just yet. It is hard to believe but this guy has been here since 2002. There were years where he would just flat out vanish. He is having a great year and deserves any accolades he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 these dudes remind me of Marvin Jones and Mo Lewis. Two lifetime jets draft picks (3 #1's and a 3) that do nothing but quietly remain in the starting lineup for 10+ years, through multiple coaches and DC's, rack up a couple pro-bowls(Ellis 2, Mo 3) and just play. True Jets. Good thread. Sean Ellis is in a contract year and is playing like it. i really hop we can figure out a way to keep him. He is the definition of a Jet. Thomas has been not and cold but Rex has been good for him. Just when i start wondering where he is this year he shows up with a good solid play. Two steadfast players that make an impact. neither one are slouches this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Shawn Ellis is destined for the ring of honor. Just a great Jet who brings it every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Seán Ellis is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Good thread. Sean Ellis is in a contract year and is playing like it. i really hop we can figure out a way to keep him. He is the definition of a Jet. Thomas has been not and cold but Rex has been good for him. Just when i start wondering where he is this year he shows up with a good solid play. Two steadfast players that make an impact. neither one are slouches this year. Not slouches at all, IMO, they are having their best seasons as pros. Ellis is on pace for over 10 sacks and 60 tackles. For a DE in this system...thats pretty ******* awesome. Thomas hasnt had the same numbers, but watching him, its been his best season since 06 when he went ape sh*t in his contract year. Guy has been all over the place, making plays behind the LOS, getting pressures, I'm surprised he only has 1 sack, thought I'd seen him in on more. But overall, he's been pretty awesome. Very happy with these 2 long tenured Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Sean Ellis is in a contract year and is playing like it. Shawn Ellis is destined for the ring of honor. Seán Ellis is a beast. Gotta love Shonn Ellis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 At times, Thomas has looked like the best player on the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 love Ellis, but not so much with Thomas. Though he is having a good year. The dude had 2 good years his whole career. Coincidently both because of contract reasons. 06' was a contract year. Got his big payday and disappeared for 3 years. Now next year is his big salary 3+ mil on that contract, the Jets would have surely cut him with no dead money. So basically he is just saving his a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Gotta love Shonn Ellis! Agree.. Sione Ellis has been outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Agree.. Sione Ellis has been outstanding. I like Shoney too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Props to Schon Ellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Shawon. Ellis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Schawn Ellis Rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Chone Ellis may be my favorite Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Gotta love Shonn Ellis! How do you spell Shaun Shonn Shawn Shonne's name again? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 How do you spell Shaun Shonn Shawn Shonne's name again? LOL I think it's Shean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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