Mangold and Jets offensive coordinator have minor disagreement

[Jetfan13]

George Willis of the New York Post reports on Friday, Jets center Nick Mangold and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer were working through a difference of opinion. Mangold wanted more freedom to alter certain calls at the line of scrimmage. Schottenheimer didn’t think it was necessary.

Mangold figured he’d earned the right to have that kind of flexibility being a Pro Bowl veteran and all. Schottenheimer apparently disagreed.

“He’s holding me back,” Mangold said in the Jets locker room after apparently failing to get his way

On the scale of 1 to 10, it was about a 2 as far as any internal rift is concerned. But it does suggest the search for making the Jets offense as dominant as its defense is an ongoing process with no shortage of opinions on how to get there.

There has been plenty of concern this week over whether cornerback Darrelle Revis will play against the Broncos (2-3) today at Invesco Field. But it really shouldn’t matter if the Jets offense does what it’s supposed to do against a banged-up Broncos defense that allowed 415 total yards, including 233 rushing, in its 31-17 loss to the Ravens last week.

Today’s game is all about the Jets offense, or at least it should be. We’ve seen enough of Rex Ryan’s defense to know it’s going to hold its own even against a Broncos offense that ranks fourth in the NFL averaging 384.8 yards per game. It’s time for the Jets offense, ranked tied for 15th at 337.2 yards per game, to start putting all its talented pieces together and become as feared as the team’s defense.

“Obviously, when you have a defensive head coach and the top-rated defense in the league coming from last year, you know that you have to pull your weight,” Schottenheimer said. “We think we’ve done a good job of that, but we’re just getting started. We’re not pleased with where we’re at.”

The Jets offense knows it got lucky on Monday night. It produced zero touchdowns on four visits to the Minnesota red zone and was vulnerable to a Brett Favre comeback. The Jets exhaled only after cornerback Dwight Lowery intercepted a Favre pass and returned it 26 yards for the final touchdown with 1:30 to play.

It’s a scenario that can’t often be repeated if the Jets (4-1) want to be as good as they believe they can be. This isn’t the 2000 Ravens, for whom the offense was simply window dressing for a Super Bowl team. With LaDainian Tomlinson looking better than anyone expected and a receiving corps that now includes Santonio Holmes, the Jets shouldn’t be a team that needs to be saved by its defense.

Today’s game could be a springboard to the rest of the season. With three starters and two reserves out on the Denver defense, the Jets should be able to dominate especially with their running game even in the mile high altitude.

“If we’re dehydrating our running backs, I’ll take it,” Ryan said. “[Denver] gave up 200-something yards to Baltimore last week. They don’t want to [give that up again] because that’s an embarrassing thing for a defense, so they’re going to try to put them all down there. Sometimes, it leads to big plays with the passing game and the running game.”

That’s what the Jets are supposed to be built to do: beat teams with the ground-and-pound and with big plays in the running and passing game. It’s why inefficiency in the red zone is unacceptable. Quarterbacks coach Matt Cavanaugh emphasized that point on Friday with a lecturing tone that caught the players’ attention.

“It definitely woke people back up,” guard Brandon Moore said. “Being average is not the way we want to be perceived. We know we’re better.”

Today, they can prove it.

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[4HCrew]

George Willis of the New York Post reports on Friday, Jets center Nick Mangold and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer were working through a difference of opinion. Mangold wanted more freedom to alter certain calls at the line of scrimmage. Schottenheimer didn’t think it was necessary.

Mangold figured he’d earned the right to have that kind of flexibility being a Pro Bowl veteran and all. Schottenheimer apparently disagreed.

“He’s holding me back,” Mangold said in the Jets locker room after apparently failing to get his way

On the scale of 1 to 10, it was about a 2 as far as any internal rift is concerned. But it does suggest the search for making the Jets offense as dominant as its defense is an ongoing process with no shortage of opinions on how to get there.

There has been plenty of concern this week over whether cornerback Darrelle Revis will play against the Broncos (2-3) today at Invesco Field. But it really shouldn’t matter if the Jets offense does what it’s supposed to do against a banged-up Broncos defense that allowed 415 total yards, including 233 rushing, in its 31-17 loss to the Ravens last week.

Today’s game is all about the Jets offense, or at least it should be. We’ve seen enough of Rex Ryan’s defense to know it’s going to hold its own even against a Broncos offense that ranks fourth in the NFL averaging 384.8 yards per game. It’s time for the Jets offense, ranked tied for 15th at 337.2 yards per game, to start putting all its talented pieces together and become as feared as the team’s defense.

“Obviously, when you have a defensive head coach and the top-rated defense in the league coming from last year, you know that you have to pull your weight,” Schottenheimer said. “We think we’ve done a good job of that, but we’re just getting started. We’re not pleased with where we’re at.”

The Jets offense knows it got lucky on Monday night. It produced zero touchdowns on four visits to the Minnesota red zone and was vulnerable to a Brett Favre comeback. The Jets exhaled only after cornerback Dwight Lowery intercepted a Favre pass and returned it 26 yards for the final touchdown with 1:30 to play.

It’s a scenario that can’t often be repeated if the Jets (4-1) want to be as good as they believe they can be. This isn’t the 2000 Ravens, for whom the offense was simply window dressing for a Super Bowl team. With LaDainian Tomlinson looking better than anyone expected and a receiving corps that now includes Santonio Holmes, the Jets shouldn’t be a team that needs to be saved by its defense.

Today’s game could be a springboard to the rest of the season. With three starters and two reserves out on the Denver defense, the Jets should be able to dominate especially with their running game even in the mile high altitude.

“If we’re dehydrating our running backs, I’ll take it,” Ryan said. “[Denver] gave up 200-something yards to Baltimore last week. They don’t want to [give that up again] because that’s an embarrassing thing for a defense, so they’re going to try to put them all down there. Sometimes, it leads to big plays with the passing game and the running game.”

That’s what the Jets are supposed to be built to do: beat teams with the ground-and-pound and with big plays in the running and passing game. It’s why inefficiency in the red zone is unacceptable. Quarterbacks coach Matt Cavanaugh emphasized that point on Friday with a lecturing tone that caught the players’ attention.

“It definitely woke people back up,” guard Brandon Moore said. “Being average is not the way we want to be perceived. We know we’re better.”

Today, they can prove it.

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I am hoping this is a guy trying to generate a story

[SenorGato]

Schottenheimer hates his players...reason #132130283402834 why he shouldn't be here or in the league. He thinks he's better and smarter than everyone. Who is he to tell Nick Mangold no?

I guess Mangold will get this privilege when the new guy is here.

[Bleedin Green]

Schottenheimer hates his players...reason #132130283402834 why he shouldn't be here or in the league. He thinks he's better and smarter than everyone. Who is he to tell Nick Mangold no?

I guess Mangold will get this privilege when the new guy is here.

Serious question, would you argue the point that Mangold is better at his job than Schotty is at his? This doesn't necessitate you not liking Schotty, it just means you don't think he's clearly the best in the league at his job. I'm not sure I believe it's as cut and dry as this article is making it out to be, but if it was then thta's not a good sign. It doesn't matter what the job is, a lack of willingness to listen to those who are directly affected by your decisions when they give you suggestions is a real poor quality in any worker.

[Klecko73isGod]

From the article"

On the scale of 1 to 10, it was about a 2 as far as any internal rift is concerned.

Why was this even written about?

[RutgersJetFan]

“He’s holding me back,” Mangold said in the Jets locker room after apparently failing to get his way

Call me crazy but I'm gonna go ahead and say that the full context of this quote probably wasn't printed.

[SenorGato]

Call me crazy but I'm gonna go ahead and say that the full context of this quote probably wasn't printed.

I thought the same thing. The whole Mangold/Schotty incident just ends after that...

Sports writers...I dislike them greatly.

Serious question, would you argue the point that Mangold is better at his job than Schotty is at his? This doesn't necessitate you not liking Schotty, it just means you don't think he's clearly the best in the league at his job. I'm not sure I believe it's as cut and dry as this article is making it out to be, but if it was then thta's not a good sign. It doesn't matter what the job is, a lack of willingness to listen to those who are directly affected by your decisions when they give you suggestions is a real poor quality in any worker.

The article is bs.

Also, I think both men are highly capable at what they do.

Why was this even written about?

The dam Schotty's been able to build the past 4 games is ready to bust. He's one of the 2-3 most unpopular members of the Jets, if he's not #1.

[Klecko73isGod]

Call me crazy but I'm gonna go ahead and say that the full context of this quote probably wasn't printed.

On the scale of 1 to 10, it was about a 2 as far as any internal rift is concerned.

Call me crazy, but I'm gonna go ahead and say that based on the above statement Mangold said it with tongue planted firmly in his cheek.

[SenorGato]

Call me crazy, but I'm gonna go ahead and say that based on the above statement Mangold said it with tongue planted firmly in his cheek.

Sanchez quote from Hard Knocks - "Schotty you suck."

Was that tongue in cheek? The anger is just piling up.

[bobbyjet69]

Sanchez quote from Hard Knocks - "Schotty you suck."

Was that tongue in cheek? The anger is just piling up.

don't go blowing things out of proportion now

[Klecko73isGod]

Sanchez quote from Hard Knocks - "Schotty you suck."

Was that tongue in cheek? The anger is just piling up.

Ummm, yeah it was and it only proved that players read the boards.

[Bruce Banner]

“He’s holding me back,” Mangold said in the Jets locker room after apparently failing to get his way

Mangold isn't a hothead or a loud mouth, this seems like a serious thing to say coming from him. Let Mangold adjust the line, he's good enough and experienced enough to do and its one less thing for Sanchez to think about.

[SenorGato]

Ummm, yeah it was and it only proved that players read the boards.

I think they even devoted some time to it on the show (30 seconds of a bunch of guys commenting on comments). Funny stuff because it's not something you'd expect to see. You gotta think we provide a whole ton of bulletin board material...Schotty's probably got a room that looks like John Doe's in Se7en filled with the stuff.

don't go blowing things out of proportion now

I'm just f*cking around because I never have anything better to do.

[Kleckineau]

As this team and season progresses, I get the feeling the NY press wants this team to be like the Billy Martin led yankees. There has been a story to report every week, DUI, Sainz, Revis speeding, DickPic, Greene benched etc etc. They want sensational back page news every week and they are willing to dig around for any possible story and then exagerate and sensationalize it.

[SenorGato]

As this team and season progresses, I get the feeling the NY press wants this team to be like the Billy Martin led yankees. There has been a story to report every week, DUI, Sainz, Revis speeding, DickPic, Greene benched etc etc. They want sensational back page news every week and they are willing to dig around for any possible story and then exagerate and sensationalize it.

I think you've nailed it.

I don't like what it says about what they think this fanbase wants, but I guess sh*t happens.

[Bruce Banner]

As this team and season progresses, I get the feeling the NY press wants this team to be like the Billy Martin led yankees. There has been a story to report every week, DUI, Sainz, Revis speeding, DickPic, Greene benched etc etc. They want sensational back page news every week and they are willing to dig around for any possible story and then exagerate and sensationalize it.

Maybe. But I think with Rex around this team will always be a drama magnet. With Martin it was worse for obvious reasons but Rex draws this kind of stuff just like his dad.

[vinnys025]

Maybe. But I think with Rex around this team will always be a drama magnet. With Martin it was worse for obvious reasons but Rex draws this kind of stuff just like his dad.

There might be some truth to this. I did see that mangold was the first one to shower up after the game and get out to the bus by himself......he looked pissed off too. Jets fans were asking him to sign autographs and stuff but he just kept talking to his (sister?) and then after a jets chant he gave a small wave with his back turned to us on his way to the bus. I'm not around pro athletes alot, so maybe this is perfectly normal.

[SenorGato]

My friend was talking about this story today and I didn't realize how tongue in cheek the story of the article appears to be. Anyone think Mangold posts on a message board or two from time to time?