Roger Goodell is ruining the NFL

[Matt39]

Tell em why you mad

[GREENBEAN]

Tell em why you mad

I *****n hate him right now!

Reasons? The new rule is enough for me. I'm way to fried to remember any more right now. But not too fried to remember the HATE!

[Greenranger]

I hate this new rule, I hate what he's done to the draft, I hate the thought of a lockout, I hate the 18-game idea, and I hate the hypocrisy that he would fine and suspend players for these hits and then allow for these hits to be put into videos, such was the case with Eric Smith in 2008.

[JiFtheOracle]

I hate this new rule, I hate what he's done to the draft, I hate the thought of a lockout, I hate the 18-game idea, and I hate the hypocrisy that he would fine and suspend players for these hits and then allow for these hits to be put into videos, such was the case with Eric Smith in 2008.

Throw in the obvious bias toward specific teams...and Goodell is the worst thing thats happened to the NFL.

[RutgersJetFan]

I hate this new rule

Everyone keeps crying about it, I can't possibly see the logic behind not agreeing. A 20-year-old kid is paralyzed from the neck down after last week's games, and most don't seem to realize that any change is going to have to come from the top down. Bravo to Goodell I say.

[T0mShane]

In Goodell's perfect world, every game ends with the score 52-49 and every player gets quoted thanking Tony Dungy for inventing football.

[Mattyandthejets]

This is what happens when you hire an intern to be the commissioner, he goes on a power trip and tries do as much to the game was possible whether the game needs it or not.

The nfl is an organization of hypocrisy.

They whine about injuries and helmet to helmet hits and yet want to extend the schedule and as a result give the players more opportunities to get hurt, and on top of that they wont even care for the players after retirement with good health insurance, so how much do they really care about the players?

They are turning the sport into glorified track and field with as little hitting as possible and making it all about running up and down the field, no kidding like 5 QBs are on pace to break marino's passing yards record this season, its like shooting fish in a barrel now where the defensive back is flagged for making eye contact with the receiver.

The game is overofficiated moreso now than it has ever been. I am cautious of cheering after a long TD run or big 3rd down stop for fear of the dreaded yellow rectangle appearing at the bottom of my screen. Even this sunday when Hill was flagged on that 4th and 6, i was afraid to cheer out of fear that it was on Santonio; Its pathetic.

And whats the deal with kickers and punters getting all of this special protection? I would rather we not even try to block punts and field goals because we may hit the punter or kicker trying and get flagged for it.

In my opinion, Goodell is making the greed of the NFL apparent; showing us that it is all about the money and not about the integrity of the game. Star players and offense sell tickets so they make rules to favor star QBs, WRs, and the offense in general. They want the NFL to have madden scores of like 70-63 because that sells tickets.

I really hope the players rally around people like James Harrison and show the commissioner that they hate what he is doing and that he is ruining football.

[Mattyandthejets]

Everyone keeps crying about it, I can't possibly see the logic behind not agreeing. A 20-year-old kid is paralyzed from the neck down after last week's games, and most don't seem to realize that any change is going to have to come from the top down. Bravo to Goodell I say.

As sad as that was, it doesnt really apply here, Legrand drove his helmet into the ballcarrier's back on a kickoff return. He didnt make helmet to helmet contact with another player or lead with his shoulder into another players head, and no one lead with their shoulder into his head. It was a freak accident, but those are not the kind of plays were are talking about.

[RutgersJetFan]

As sad as that was, it doesnt really apply here, Legrand drove his helmet into the ballcarrier's back on a kickoff return. He didnt make helmet to helmet contact with another player or lead with his shoulder into another players head, and no one lead with their shoulder into his head. It was a freak accident, but those are not the kind of plays were are talking about.

Yes they are. It's the game in general, not the specificities of each hit. Ask Eric LeGrand's parents how they feel about some of those hits this past weekend. Regardless, debating that point is a waste of time to begin with. Getting into the ins and outs of every single hit that may or may not cause permanent damage is far less important than examining the picture as a whole. Contact in general has to completely be reevaluated. Schlereth was absolutely right in the hypocrisy of things, but if the game's going to be redefined it has to start from the top down. I think Goodell is the first commissioner to realize this. Can't say I agree with his way of going about it, but I applaud the effort and at the end of the day acknowledging the problem is the first step towards rectifying it.

Probably the only thing in all my years on Jets boards that I've ever agreed with bitonti for is that in 20 years, football is probably going to look a lot different than it does today. And that's a good thing. So long as the pro's are still doing things this way, so will players at the high school and college levels.

[Larz]

yeah, I prefer the days of neck ties and 2 year careers

yay !

[s dubb]

Everyone keeps crying about it, I can't possibly see the logic behind not agreeing. A 20-year-old kid is paralyzed from the neck down after last week's games, and most don't seem to realize that any change is going to have to come from the top down. Bravo to Goodell I say.

BULLSH*t. You know what your getting into when you strap on a helmet. Whats next banning cars?... we all know the outcome of what can happen while being in a car. Gimme a break dude. The game has been fiddled with and tinkered with since it's inception. From the God damn "special" treatment QB's get, the ridiculous P.I calls, they already have rules that you can't launch, or hit with the crown of the helmet. The rules are in place.

Now what?, letting up on a tackle because your scared to lose 100k and the guy breaks for a TD and scores and your team doesn't make the playoffs. Take heed, these things will be an issue at sometime. It's not Goodell's job to change the game. It's his job to make it as safe as he can WITHIN THE PARAMETERS of the game. Better helmets, better brain technology, better equipment.

These guys are taught since children to out there and let it all hang out. Not go out there and p*ssyfoot around field and play at 80%.

f*ck Goodell and anyone that agrees with him. No offense.

[MasonJet]

I actually agree with the new rules, the hits from Sunday were clearly blatant and we know they are very dangerous and cause easily cause concussions. It's easy to sit here as a fan in our comfy chairs saying hey that's how the game is when we're not the ones suffering from the lifelong health problems caused by it.

That said I definitely don't like an 18 game schedule, the ticky tack pass interference rules and I don't know why it's so hard to define what a catch is. And the PSL's and local blackouts are absolute bs as well.

[RutgersJetFan]

BULLSH*t. You know what your getting into when you strap on a helmet. Whats next banning cars?... we all know the outcome of what can happen while being in a car.

Nice false equivalence. Cars have been made to be safer, laws have been put in place to make sure that happens, and tickets are issued if you're not following those laws. Regardless, just because an irrelevant act can be dangerous, that really has no bearing on whether or not youth and collegiate sports should be. Get real.

Gimme a break dude. The game has been fiddled with and tinkered with since it's inception. From the God damn "special" treatment QB's get, the ridiculous P.I calls, they already have rules that you can't launch, or hit with the crown of the helmet. The rules are in place.

Exactly. And just because there are rules in place means they're always for the best. Because there's never anything wrong with rules on the books, right?

Now what?, letting up on a tackle because your scared to lose 100k and the guy breaks for a TD and scores and your team doesn't make the playoffs. Take heed, these things will be an issue at sometime. It's not Goodell's job to change the game. It's his job to make it as safe as he can WITHIN THE PARAMETERS of the game. Better helmets, better brain technology, better equipment.

Better brain technology? Let me get this straight: It's Goodell's job to redfine equipment, technology, and safety as a whole, and has to do so within a series of rules that may hinder that and isn't allowed to attempt to amend them in an effort to accommodate 'better brain technology.' Gotcha.

These guys are taught since children to out there and let it all hang out.

Right, that's pretty much the problem.

[BroadwayJ667]

simplest answer. He is too concerned with image and not enough with commmon sense.

F*** image!

[BroadwayJ667]

I actually agree with the new rules, the hits from Sunday were clearly blatant and we know they are very dangerous and cause easily cause concussions. It's easy to sit here as a fan in our comfy chairs saying hey that's how the game is when we're not the ones suffering from the lifelong health problems caused by it.

Yeah but we aren't forcing them to play, and they are being compensated with millions of dollars. They know the risks and accept them. If they didn't accept them they wouldn't play.

Why are you accepting the pussification of America. Aren't you a man? What happened? Did your balls drop off.

[s dubb]

Nice false equivalence. Cars have been made to be safer, laws have been put in place to make sure that happens, and tickets are issued if you're not following those laws. Regardless, just because an irrelevant act can be dangerous, that really has no bearing on whether or not youth and collegiate sports should be. Get real.

Exactly. And just because there are rules in place means they're always for the best. Because there's never anything wrong with rules on the books, right?

Better brain technology? Let me get this straight: It's Goodell's job to redfine equipment, technology, and safety as a whole, and has to do so within a series of rules that may hinder that and isn't allowed to attempt to amend them in an effort to accommodate 'better brain technology.' Gotcha.

Right, that's pretty much the problem.

Go watch golf and oh, here's a word you might not be to familiar with 'integrity'!

Not gonna waste my time with ya. People with this train of thought are a dime a dozen. Most are in favor of keeping the integrity as is and to the grassroots as much as possible.

Change your screen name to "Goodell's pet"

Cheers

[RutgersJetFan]

here's a word you might not be to familiar with 'integrity'!

Here's a word you might not be familiar with: syllogism.

[PatriotReign37]

I hate this new rule, I hate what he's done to the draft, I hate the thought of a lockout, I hate the 18-game idea, and I hate the hypocrisy that he would fine and suspend players for these hits and then allow for these hits to be put into videos, such was the case with Eric Smith in 2008.

Agreed. Its all F up now.

It used to be great having a Draft party all day Saturday.

[MasonJet]

Yeah but we aren't forcing them to play, and they are being compensated with millions of dollars. They know the risks and accept them. If they didn't accept them they wouldn't play.

Why are you accepting the pussification of America. Aren't you a man? What happened? Did your balls drop off.

Huh? Idk what sh*t's about, but I just don't think players need to be suffering from so many concussions. Obviously there are going to be big hits and I think the NFL just needs to do a better job of determining what is dirty and what isn't. Ie Meriweather's hit was completely dirty and he should be supsended, but Robinson's was an accident and one of those things that happens. Harrison's hit was dirty too. Anyway I think this is all an overreaction, there is no rule change they are just stepping up enforcement. They might make mistakes doing that but it's a step in the right direction. I am worried about the ref's reaction though, they could definitely make this worse than it should be.

[RutgersJetFan]

I just don't think players need to be suffering from so many concussions.

How dare you add to the pussification of America.

[MasonJet]

How dare you add to the pussification of America.

I must not have balls or something.

[The Crusher]

BULLSH*t. You know what your getting into when you strap on a helmet. Whats next banning cars?... we all know the outcome of what can happen while being in a car. Gimme a break dude. The game has been fiddled with and tinkered with since it's inception. From the God damn "special" treatment QB's get, the ridiculous P.I calls, they already have rules that you can't launch, or hit with the crown of the helmet. The rules are in place.

Now what?, letting up on a tackle because your scared to lose 100k and the guy breaks for a TD and scores and your team doesn't make the playoffs. Take heed, these things will be an issue at sometime. It's not Goodell's job to change the game. It's his job to make it as safe as he can WITHIN THE PARAMETERS of the game. Better helmets, better brain technology, better equipment.

These guys are taught since children to out there and let it all hang out. Not go out there and p*ssyfoot around field and play at 80%.

f*ck Goodell and anyone that agrees with him. No offense.

What the hell is better brain technology? REPPD. LOL

[The Crusher]

Here's a word you might not be familiar with: syllogism.

You must have hammered the SAT's.

[RutgersJetFan]

What the hell is better brain technology?

[BroadwayJ667]

Huh? Idk what sh*t's about, but I just don't think players need to be suffering from so many concussions. Obviously there are going to be big hits and I think the NFL just needs to do a better job of determining what is dirty and what isn't. Ie Meriweather's hit was completely dirty and he should be supsended, but Robinson's was an accident and one of those things that happens. Harrison's hit was dirty too. Anyway I think this is all an overreaction, there is no rule change they are just stepping up enforcement. They might make mistakes doing that but it's a step in the right direction. I am worried about the ref's reaction though, they could definitely make this worse than it should be.

I agree with you that Merriweather was dirty, even Belichick gave him a look of WTF? Harrison I don't think was dirty, on Cribbs, Cribbs was falling down and struggling to get away, Harrison had already ducked his head.

On Massaquoi. Mohammed was trying to dodge the tackle and Harrison was trying to blow him up.

With the Robinson hit, they flagged him because of the violence of the hit. I mean how can Jackson be declared defenseless when he had the ball in his hands. It was unfortunate.

They shouldn't suffer concussions, but they know what they are signing up for. I do not believe anyone out there is trying to give anyone a concussion, but you are trying to physically intimidate the other player. That's how Harrison plays, and I applaud him for it.

By outlawing the hits you are outlawing the way the game is played. Its a violent game, its why we watch.

If they are going to out law these hit then they need to provide an alternative that doesn't penalize a guy for a big hit, IF he attempts to make a tackle by bringing his arms and attempting to wrap up. If they still throw flags for that, then the game is doomed.

[The Crusher]

Mr Goodell should listen to momma.

[s dubb]

What the hell is better brain technology? REPPD. LOL

Investing money and time into researching concussions. Raising awareness and making sure his players are able to get top of the line treatment by the best "brain doctors" in the world. Out of my entire post you find a way to slight 1 thing I said that made you tingle inside. Stay with the discussion.. come on... you can do it.

Now waiting for "he said brain doctors, hehehehehe" responses.

[The Crusher]

Investing money and time into researching concussions. Raising awareness and making sure his players are able to get top of the line treatment by the best "brain doctors" in the world. Out of my entire post you find a way to slight 1 thing I said that made you tingle inside. Stay with the discussion.. come on... you can do it.

Now waiting for "he said brain doctors, hehehehehe" responses.

Actually that part of the post made me laugh because I realized you where passionate about what you where talking about and slipped up. Just got a kick out of it, no disrespect bro.

Truth is their are millions going into protective head gear and shock reduction technology funded by the US goverment and carried out by private goverment contractors. This is a result of the IED attacks on our troops and the devastating brain injuries these soldiers are coming home with. Head gear technology, long term care, acute symptomatic relief, memory impairment, photo hyper sensitivity and a myriad of other post concussive syndromes are being looked at. Maybe something can be done one day and eventually the technology will be made available.

[The Crusher]

Investing money and time into researching concussions. Raising awareness and making sure his players are able to get top of the line treatment by the best "brain doctors" in the world. Out of my entire post you find a way to slight 1 thing I said that made you tingle inside. Stay with the discussion.. come on... you can do it.

Now waiting for "he said brain doctors, hehehehehe" responses.

This Doctor walked into a bar and saw this really hot chick sitting their and she said, "what do you do for a living", he said Im a "neurosurgeon" she said "DAMN, I would have ****ed you if you where a Brain Doctor."

[JiFtheOracle]

Actually that part of the post made me laugh because I realized you where passionate about what you where talking about and slipped up. Just got a kick out of it, no disrespect bro.

Truth is their are millions going into protective head gear and shock reduction technology funded by the US goverment and carried out by private goverment contractors. This is a result of the IED attacks on our troops and the devastating brain injuries these soldiers are coming home with. Head gear technology, long term care, acute symptomatic relief, memory impairment, photo hyper sensitivity and a myriad of other post concussive syndromes are being looked at. Maybe something can be done one day and eventually the technology will be made available.

Dr. Crushlove has spoken. Listen bitches.

This is going to be a touchy subject. Its not good. The NFL is not in a good place right now. They are looking like enormous hypocrites right now. Goodell is doing an awful job as a commissioner. Not a happy fan right now.

There have been some passionate back lash from the players. I'm watching ESPN right now and its crazy the bashing I'm hearing. Not good. Not good.

[RutgersJetFan]

There have been some passionate back lash from the players. I'm watching ESPN right now and its crazy the bashing I'm hearing. Not good. Not good.

Of course there's backlash. They're being fined for playing the game that they were taught to and drafted to play. But that's the point because that's exactly the problem. There's something inherently wrong with a college kid getting his C-3 and 4 discs mangled on a field during a game, and it just gets chalked up to, "that's just da way good ol' foozeball is played. That's da risk he be takin."

[CTM]

Dr. Crushlove has spoken. Listen bitches.

This is going to be a touchy subject. Its not good. The NFL is not in a good place right now. They are looking like enormous hypocrites right now. Goodell is doing an awful job as a commissioner. Not a happy fan right now.

There have been some passionate back lash from the players. I'm watching ESPN right now and its crazy the bashing I'm hearing. Not good. Not good.

You want to see these poor inner city kids kill each other for your entertainment. Like a modern day Roman Patrician watching slaves kill one another ..

elitist

[THE ILK]

Mark Messier and Cascade Sports designed a hockey helmet that is really cutting down on concussions: http://themessierproject.com/

The Coyotes' Shane Doan was suspended 3 games for an illegal blindside hit to the head of Anaheim's Dan Sexton, who was wearing the helmet and did not suffer a concussion: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=540925

The NFL should look into this new "brain technology." Here are the videos on how the new designs help: http://www.youtube.com/user/themessierproject

The helmet is designed to absorb multiple impacts, and does so 140% better than the traditional hockey helmets, it may even help with neck and spinal cord injuries.

[JiFtheOracle]

Of course there's backlash. They're being fined for playing the game that they were taught to and drafted to play. But that's the point because that's exactly the problem. There's something inherently wrong with a college kid getting his C-3 and 4 discs mangled on a field during a game, and it just gets chalked up to, "that's just da way good ol' foozeball is played. That's da risk he be takin."

I'm sort of confused on your angle here. I'm not trying to be insensitive to the injury or the example you are giving, but you realize you are essentially saying that the boy from Rutgers should receive a fine and a flag for the way he made that tackle, right?

I'm sure that player didnt mean to tackle the way you are told from day 1 to never do. But the game is fast and you are told to make a play and he just acted on instinct. Which is exactly my point.

And quite honestly, yeah, when you strap on the helmet, you acknowledge it might not end up well.

This is just strange coming from a boxer.

You want to see these poor inner city kids kill each other for your entertainment. Like a modern day Roman Patrician watching slaves kill one another ..

elitist

I must be a Gladiator then because I played the game, if I ever have a boy, I'll introduce him the game too.

[Larz]

Mark Messier and Cascade Sports designed a hockey helmet that is really cutting down on concussions: http://themessierproject.com/

The Coyotes' Shane Doan was suspended 3 games for an illegal blindside hit to the head of Anaheim's Dan Sexton, who was wearing the helmet and did not suffer a concussion: http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=540925

The NFL should look into this new "brain technology." Here are the videos on how the new designs help: http://www.youtube.c...emessierproject

The helmet is designed to absorb multiple impacts, and does so 140% better than the traditional hockey helmets, it may even help with neck and spinal cord injuries.

well, I've always felt since a concussion is the brain moving inside the skull, equipment can only do so much. when you are moving one direction, and suddenly and violently move the opposite direction, the brain moves inside the skull, and then you have a problem. I'm not saying don't get better helmets, I think the answer is simply enforcing existing rules, and when you get right down to it, the NFL helmet is probably the most iconic image in sports and least likely thing the NFL will want to change siginificantly

the ray lewis hit on keller and the revis hit in denver were examples of exciting big hits that were executed properly.